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All Forum Posts by: Sanil Subhash Chandra Bose

Sanil Subhash Chandra Bose has started 12 posts and replied 43 times.

Quote from @Greg Kasmer:

@Sanil Subhash Chandra Bose - I would investigate American Heritage Credit Union. They are not just in KOP area, but all over the Philly DMA. I've found them to be "investor friendly" and recently worked with them on a loan. I know the business lender there so if you're interested in an introduction, please let me know!

 I would love to have an introduction @Greg Kasmer

Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Sanil Subhash Chandra Bose:

Some of my recent posts on title searches have sparked a lot of interest, so I decided to put together a simple guide to help those of you looking to conduct your title searches. The goal is to give you a practical way to shortlist properties before bringing in a title company.

Why Start with a DIY Title Search?

1. Start with the Property Address

This guide will help ensure a smooth and systematic title search process, even for those with no prior experience.

Sounds like work. ;-)

I get free prelims from my escrow company. I'd think if you do enough business with an escrow company or attorney, they can cut through a lot of that for you.

One of the things people miss is unrecorded FHA loan mods. You learn about them from the lender, then have to contact HUD. I've seen some pretty good sized mods that sometimes blow the deal.

 Getting prelims from an Escrow company or Lawyer is great. @Account Closed How do you find FHA unrecorded loan mods?

Title search is a little complicated, but once you know the process, it is not that hard. My primary objective was to run a long list and shortlist to fewer so I only have to spend a limited $s with the title company. Due to this search, I set up a three-member team to do searches using various lists and qualify it for me and my investors. We build some plugins to make this process much faster as well. 

Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:

Very good.. reality is though very few will do this to much work.

when I was full time buying courthouse steps I would occasionally go into the recorders office and see my competition doing all this busy work.

Myself I had my title company pull every NOD in the MSA which was 4 counties 2.5 mil people.

create a spread sheet and they would up date it daily as new NOD's came in.

they would give me address  lien position  tax information and lien judgment search.. having our title plants digitized and off shore allows for this data to be gotten in a few clicks..

then when I got my short list I would give them that list about 48 hours before the sale and they would do a date down for me on those.. Our title companies customer service departments are second to none all of this was free for me.. Of course you had to be a fairly high volume closer like we were.. u cant just be a one off investor. But you could see the distinct advantage I had it was huge.

I feel sorry for folks doing this in PA and other states that are so antiquated.. 

 You are correct @Jay Hinrichs. My team does this process currently for me and my investors. They are expert in doing this and analysis of the property. But what we struggle with is getting the NOD list. We only process the publicly available list, such as Foreclosure, tax lien, etc. How do you get NOD list? Volume isn't a problem for us because we have built some Chrome plugins and AI solution that does it nearly autopilot.

Some of my recent posts on title searches have sparked a lot of interest, so I decided to put together a simple guide to help those of you looking to conduct your title searches. The goal is to give you a practical way to shortlist properties before bringing in a title company.

Why Start with a DIY Title Search?

I’m not a title company, but I’ve learned that doing a preliminary search can save you a lot of money, especially when looking at many properties. This guide will walk you through the steps of conducting your search so you can narrow it down to your top three choices. Once you have your shortlist, I recommend hiring a professional title company to handle the detailed due diligence.

What’s in the Guide?

The guide breaks down the process into easy-to-follow steps, using public records to find property details, liens, legal cases, and more. It’s designed to help you understand the property’s status without immediately incurring the costs of hiring a title company for every property you're considering.

I hope this helps you save some time and money as you build your portfolio. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions or tips!

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!

Disclaimer

I am not a title company, and I strongly recommend hiring a professional title company to perform thorough due diligence. While this guide provides a detailed procedure for conducting a property title search, its purpose is to help you avoid the significant expense of conducting title searches on hundreds of properties. Use this guide to conduct initial searches yourself, narrow down the list to your top three properties, and then engage a title company to perform a comprehensive search on those shortlisted properties. This approach ensures that you get expert validation while managing your costs effectively.

Title Search Procedure for Different Counties in the US

This guide explains the process of conducting a title search for properties across various counties. It is suitable for beginners or data analysts who have no prior experience with title searches.

Step-by-Step Procedure

1. Start with the Property Address

  • Information Required: The complete property address.
  • Objective: To find the relevant county and Parcel Number (Parcel ID) associated with the property.

2. Find the Property of records

  • How to Search:
    • Use Google to identify the county where the property is located.
    • Example search query: "Property of records, county name, State, County".
  • Example: If the property is in Pennsylvania, you can search: "Montgomery County PA property records".
  • Outcome: Determine the county where the property is located.

3. Find the Parcel Number

  • Where to Search:
    • Go to the County Property Recorder’s website or Tax Claim Bureau for the identified county.
    • Use the public access system available on the website to conduct your search.
  • How to Search:
    • Enter the property’s street number (e.g., for "520 East Basin Street," enter "520").
    • Enter the street name (e.g., "East Basin", or “E-Basin”) separately if required by the system.
    • Select the Suffix as “ST” for street, “DR” for drive etc.
  • Outcome: Obtain the Parcel Number (Parcel ID) for the property.

4. Search the County’s Recorder of Deeds

  • Purpose: To locate liens, deeds, mortgages, and other claims attached to the property.
  • How to Access:
    • Use Google to find the Recorder of Deeds for the specific county by searching for phrases like "Montgomery County PA recorder of deeds".
    • On the website, find the public access system for property and lien information.
  • Account Setup:
    • You may need to create an account by providing your email address, username, and password.
    • Follow the registration instructions, which may involve providing your name and other contact details.

5. Search for Liens and Other Property Records

  • Search Methods:
    • By Parcel ID: Enter the Parcel ID to find the most accurate results.
    • By Owner's Name: Optionally, search by the property owner's first and last names to verify details.
  • Outcome: Obtain a list of documents related to the property, such as liens, mortgages, and deeds.

6. Search the County’s Prothonotary Office

  • Purpose: The Prothonotary office handles all legal cases related to property, including court judgments, liens, and other legal actions.
  • How to Access:
    • Use Google to find the Prothonotary system for the specific county by searching for phrases like "Montgomery County PA Prothonotary public access".
    • Access the public search system available on the website.
  • Search Methods:
    • By Parcel ID: Use the Parcel ID to search for related legal cases.
    • By Owner's First and Last Name: Cross-reference any legal actions involving the property owner.
    • By Property Address: Search using the address of the property to find related cases.
  • Case Search:
    • Check the Docket: In the Prothonotary system, search the docket to find all cases associated with the property.
    • Count Cases Individually: Review each case listed in the docket to identify and count all legal actions against the property.
  • Outcome: Retrieve detailed information on legal cases, liens, judgments, and any active legal disputes that may affect the property.

7. Understanding the Types of Documents/Statuses

When reviewing the results, you will encounter several types of documents. Below is a list of the most common record statuses and their meanings:

  • Deed: This document shows the transfer of ownership from one party to another. It can reflect sales, transfers between companies, or changes in ownership structure.
  • Mortgage: A legal document outlining a loan secured by the property. It indicates that the property was used as collateral for a loan.
  • Satisfaction of Mortgage: This document certifies that the mortgage has been paid off and the lien has been satisfied.
  • Mortgage Release: Similar to a Satisfaction of Mortgage, this document shows that the mortgage lender has released the lien from the property.
  • Sheriff’s Deed: A type of deed issued after a property is sold at a sheriff’s sale, typically due to foreclosure.
  • Lien: This is a legal claim or hold on the property to secure payment of a debt.
  • Tax Lien: A lien imposed by the government for unpaid property taxes.
  • Judgment Lien: A lien placed on the property as a result of a court judgment.
  • Quitclaim Deed: A deed transferring any interest the grantor may have in the property without any warranty of title.
  • Lis Pendens: A notice of pending legal action against the property that may affect ownership.
  • Foreclosure Notice: A document indicating the property is in the foreclosure process.

8. Verification and Cross-Referencing

  • Check the Status: Ensure the records retrieved are accurate and up to date.
  • Cross-Reference Information: Double-check by searching both the Parcel ID and Owner's Name to confirm consistency.
  • Review Multiple Liens: Look for any unsatisfied liens or additional encumbrances.

9. If You Encounter New Statuses

  • Search Online for Definitions: If you come across unfamiliar document statuses or terms, search Google using queries like "Mortgage Release meaning" or "Lis Pendens definition".
  • Verify Through County Websites: Many county Recorder of Deeds websites provide definitions or explanations for various document types.

Additional Notes

  • Using Google for Searches: Start by searching Google for the property records or Recorder of Deeds in the relevant county. Example queries:
    • "Montgomery County PA property records"
    • "Montgomery County PA recorder of deeds"
  • Public Access Systems: Most counties offer a free public access system where property details can be searched.
  • Registration Requirements: Be prepared to register for access to the county’s systems, if necessary.

Key Terms

  • Parcel Number/Parcel ID: A unique identifier assigned to a property by the county.
  • Deed: A legal document that transfers property ownership.
  • Lien: A legal claim on the property used as security for a debt.
  • Mortgage: A loan agreement where the property is collateral.
  • Satisfaction of Mortgage: A document confirming a mortgage has been paid off.
  • Sheriff’s Deed: A deed issued after a property is sold in a foreclosure auction.
  • Docket: A record of all cases and legal proceedings associated with a particular property or individual.

This guide will help ensure a smooth and systematic title search process, even for those with no prior experience.

Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Sanil Subhash Chandra Bose

Most use Propstream or other similar software - the issue again is that is what most are using.


 Is Propstream good? 

Post: Looking to purchase next property

Sanil Subhash Chandra BosePosted
  • Investor
  • King of Prussia
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 24
Quote from @Teahjsia Frazier:

Thanks for the feedback. 

How did you go about getting your second property? I’m not sure how long I would have to stay in my current home before I could get another mortgage. 


I saved enough to start a downpayment for my first property plus money for updates. I sold ownership in one of the companies I had invested in the UK and took out some stock investments that I had. I took that money and I bought a property via tax sale and another property via short sale. I further acquired another property using a mortgage with 25% downpayment. Now I have HELOC in my primary residence, HELOC 40% HELOC in my first investment property and HELOC 70% HELOC in Short sale property. I will have a cash-out refinance I am going to do in Jan 2025 for the tax-sale property. This equity would be more than enough for me to acquire another 2 - 3 multifamilies. I am currently looking out to leverage my equity to expand.

Post: Looking to purchase next property

Sanil Subhash Chandra BosePosted
  • Investor
  • King of Prussia
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 24

Hey @Teahjsia Frazier. Happy Sunday!

First off, huge congrats on buying your first investment property! That’s an awesome milestone, and you’re already thinking strategically about how to grow from here, which is key.

I started just two years ago and now have four single-family homes. My assets have increased significantly over that time, so I can tell you from experience that you're on the right track! Using a HELOC is a smart way to unlock the equity in your current home and put it to work for your next investment. One idea is to make your next property your new primary residence that way, you could potentially get a better interest rate and keep your current home as a rental.

Also, a big advantage of real estate is its tax efficiency. The real estate appreciation, you can reduce your taxable income, and the interest on your mortgage is usually deductible, which is a nice bonus. Remember, I'm not a CPA, so consult with a tax professional to get the full picture based on your situation.

You’ve got the right mindset, and with time and strategy, you can replace your current income and hit your goals.

Post: Looking for a real estate agent in an near King of Prussia, PA

Sanil Subhash Chandra BosePosted
  • Investor
  • King of Prussia
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 24
Quote from @Jonathan Greene:
Quote from @Sanil Subhash Chandra Bose:
Quote from @Jonathan Greene:
Quote from @Sanil Subhash Chandra Bose:
Quote from @Jonathan Greene:

When you make a post looking for a new agent and the whole post is saying how you did a better job than your last agent even though you closed several deals with him, I am not sure how you think you appear to agents, but I would suggest no one who reads this would want to work with you. They will just be the next one that goes up in a random post.

Your expectations are ludicrous. Are you saying he should hop out of his scheduled meetings and collapse all of his other business to get you in on a moment's notice. He could have done better than Friday, but still, you are the unpleasable client. No agent will want to work with you.

@Jonathan Greene, let me be upfront with you. I did not let him go because of this current situation. However, he was not responsive to all the deals I closed. As an investor, I expect at least one deal should be sent to me. In this case, none has happened. All the time, I found deals and sent them to him. In one of the cases, because his lackluster behavior would cost me a deal, he said he would not prepare an offer because my offer was low. I closed that deal, and after that, he called the agent and represented me.  He was supposed to send me a contract yesterday, but he never did. 


An agent has no obligation to send a low offer if they don't feel it makes rational sense so I am with him on that. I am not with him on coming back into the deal after you got it going yourself. He opted out so he should have stayed out.

I can just tell you based on my 30+ years experience as an investor and 10+ years as an agent working with hundreds of investors, I would likely fire you on the first day. If he said he was a deal finder and would send you deals then that is on him, but if he wasn't an off-market specialist and didn't know the wholesalers, I don't know any deals he would find besides the MLS.

He doesn't sound like a good agent generally, but you sound like a client who wants to run the show and good agents don't work with you because you don't listen.

 Probably you are right @Jonathan Greene. I may lack skills as a newbie. By the way, the offer wasn't as low as they had requested. He wanted to give an offer that is well above and he said that is the case in this market. 


He isn't the right agent for you, but you have to check yourself and see that you are also overstepping (if you had the right agent). When you have the right agent and you try to go around them, you will get fired. I see your issues here, but most complaints about agents are half correct and half a lack of introspection on the investor.


 I am taking your advice with a whole heart and introspecting myself. I will do my best to learn from my mistakes if I am wrong.

Post: Looking for a real estate agent in an near King of Prussia, PA

Sanil Subhash Chandra BosePosted
  • Investor
  • King of Prussia
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 24
Quote from @Jonathan Greene:
Quote from @Sanil Subhash Chandra Bose:
Quote from @Jonathan Greene:

When you make a post looking for a new agent and the whole post is saying how you did a better job than your last agent even though you closed several deals with him, I am not sure how you think you appear to agents, but I would suggest no one who reads this would want to work with you. They will just be the next one that goes up in a random post.

Your expectations are ludicrous. Are you saying he should hop out of his scheduled meetings and collapse all of his other business to get you in on a moment's notice. He could have done better than Friday, but still, you are the unpleasable client. No agent will want to work with you.

@Jonathan Greene, let me be upfront with you. I did not let him go because of this current situation. However, he was not responsive to all the deals I closed. As an investor, I expect at least one deal should be sent to me. In this case, none has happened. All the time, I found deals and sent them to him. In one of the cases, because his lackluster behavior would cost me a deal, he said he would not prepare an offer because my offer was low. I closed that deal, and after that, he called the agent and represented me.  He was supposed to send me a contract yesterday, but he never did. 


An agent has no obligation to send a low offer if they don't feel it makes rational sense so I am with him on that. I am not with him on coming back into the deal after you got it going yourself. He opted out so he should have stayed out.

I can just tell you based on my 30+ years experience as an investor and 10+ years as an agent working with hundreds of investors, I would likely fire you on the first day. If he said he was a deal finder and would send you deals then that is on him, but if he wasn't an off-market specialist and didn't know the wholesalers, I don't know any deals he would find besides the MLS.

He doesn't sound like a good agent generally, but you sound like a client who wants to run the show and good agents don't work with you because you don't listen.

 Probably you are right @Jonathan Greene. I may lack skills as a newbie. By the way, the offer wasn't as low as they had requested. He wanted to give an offer that is well above and he said that is the case in this market.