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All Forum Posts by: George You

George You has started 3 posts and replied 28 times.

Post: Purchasing a vacation rental as an investment

George YouPosted
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Originally posted by @Kahanu Noa:

@Jeremy Baker  , I just pm'd you as well, Thanks for being open to sharing!  Lived in Fort Collins for 4 years prior to moving back home and had a great time!  Miss snowboarding, but being back in the islands...can't beat it unless you strictly look at cost of living.  

@George You having that USD student market is great to have.  Not sure what your investment portfolio looks like but  Have you ever planned to sell as an exit strategy?

I ask because in my case, my sibling plans to live in the house/ condo that will eventually serve as a vacation rental/ vacation home if she needs to move in the next few years.  

 Right now I don't plan to sell as an investment strategy.  I mainly buy and hold and take my vacation rental income and pay down the mortgage.  My goal is to own vacation rental investments in all the areas that our family likes to travel to.  

Post: Tips for vacation rental of personal home on Air BNB or VRBO ?

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@Jack Tucker 

I would add 2 things:

1.  Get signed up CSA, TravelGuard, or and of the travel insurance companies to get a damage waiver protection.  This small fee $15 - $99 will cover you for up to $1500 - $3,000 in any accidental damage that happens at the property.  

2.  I love Resort Lock.  - keyless entry that generates a 10 digit code that will only work for the date/time of their booking.  It does not need wifi access to operate and you can generate the code from your smart phone.

Post: New Member from Houston TX

George YouPosted
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Originally posted by @Rob Lucey:

Hi @George You -

Busy season for our property is whenever kids are out of school and families are on vacation. We have had a few adult groups as well. They tend to turn up for events on the island which happen throughout the year. (Next month we have a group of bikers for a bike week event.)

Re: the podcast, I'm out of pocket until next week, but you can send me a link to it and I'll give it a listen next week to see if it might be a good fit...

 I'll pm you the link when it goes live.  I'm launching it in November and lining up interviews until then.  I like your market and your story and it would fit really well with my podcast.  We are basically showcasing actual vacation rental investments that people are currently doing in their markets.  

Post: Purchasing a vacation rental as an investment

George YouPosted
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Originally posted by @Jeremy Baker:
Originally posted by @George You:
Originally posted by @Jeremy Baker:

Aloha @Kahanu Noa!  We own a vacation rental property in Kihei, Maui.  We've owned it since March 2012 and it's been very successful for us and we continue to keep an eye on the market there for another property.  I grew up on Oahu and now live in Denver and have been going to Maui every yr since my wife and I got married on Maui in 2007.  So although I'm no expert on the Maui market, I'm know it fairly well.

We were lucky and got a great deal on our property in 2012 and prices have really gone up since, which has kind of kept us from buying another property there.  With the level prices are at now, you would probably have to put down 50%+ to come out cash positive each year.  That being said, we would definitely buy another property there and are always on the lookout for a good deal.

Feel free to PM me and I'll be happy to share our numbers, experience and insight in more detail.

 I love Maui!  I've only been once but want to go back and remember looking at property out there for a vacation rental.  What type of gross rents are you getting with your place? and can I see a link to it on your vrbo or listing site?  Thanks!  

 @George You PM me and I'll give you the link to our VRBO listing. I think there's a rule here about posting things like that on the forum since it's considered advertising.  I can tell you it's in the Kihei Kai Nani complex right across the street from Kamaole II Beach in Kihei.

Last year was our first full year and we brought in just over $30,000 in rent and this year we are scheduled to be just at $32,000. This of course does not include any expenses, just the amount of rent collected.

Also, I did state in a different  thread a while back that we were 89 - 90% occupied, but that included the dates that we used the condo, which I guess really doesn't count towards your occupancy. 

 Thanks!  Just PM'd you.  Wow, 89-90% is great occupancy!  What do these places sell for now in your area?  Do you have a property manager?  What's their cut?

Post: Purchasing a vacation rental as an investment

George YouPosted
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Originally posted by @Kahanu Noa:

@George You thanks for the tips!  May I ask, What deterred you from investing in Hawaii or is it something you are still considering?

 I'm still considering it.  I was about to buy a place in 2012 in Oahu but was waiting for the right place.  I didn't want to settle for anything and wanted to get a place that I knew would rent well and that I wanted to stay in for many years.  

Post: Purchasing a vacation rental as an investment

George YouPosted
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Originally posted by @Jeremy Baker:

Aloha @Kahanu Noa!  We own a vacation rental property in Kihei, Maui.  We've owned it since March 2012 and it's been very successful for us and we continue to keep an eye on the market there for another property.  I grew up on Oahu and now live in Denver and have been going to Maui every yr since my wife and I got married on Maui in 2007.  So although I'm no expert on the Maui market, I'm know it fairly well.

We were lucky and got a great deal on our property in 2012 and prices have really gone up since, which has kind of kept us from buying another property there.  With the level prices are at now, you would probably have to put down 50%+ to come out cash positive each year.  That being said, we would definitely buy another property there and are always on the lookout for a good deal.

Feel free to PM me and I'll be happy to share our numbers, experience and insight in more detail.

 I love Maui!  I've only been once but want to go back and remember looking at property out there for a vacation rental.  What type of gross rents are you getting with your place? and can I see a link to it on your vrbo or listing site?  Thanks!  

Post: Purchasing a vacation rental as an investment

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Originally posted by @Richard C.:

I'll be interested in seeing how this thread develops, and what peoples' experiences are.  Because I have never been able to figure out how the numbers work.

Me and my siblings share ownership of a (inherited) beach cottage.  Worth probably right about a million.  The absolute max we could get for Gross Rent would be maybe $25k over a ten week summer season (summers aren't really 10 weeks anymore, for summer rentals up this way.  School extends too late and starts too soon; the season is down to about 8 weeks.)

Obviously $25k would never work as return on a million invested.  So I'm really curious how this sort of thing can work for people.

 What do you do with the property for the other 9 months?  Out here in San Diego we have a student market for those 9 months and 50% of our clients will rent out their places to USD students during that time.  Is that an option for you out there?  2 bedrooms get around $2500/month for 9 months and 3 bedrooms get $3500/month.  

Post: AirBnB in Non-sexy Markets

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@Brandon Laughridge what did you end up doing? Are you buying a unit solely for vacation rental purposes out there in Kansas City?

Post: GET RICH! (or die trying?!) SHORT TERM FURNISHED RENTALS - A discussion

George YouPosted
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Originally posted by @J. Martin:
Originally posted by @George You:

@Account Closed I manage vacation rentals remotely and close by.  If you don't want to pass it off to a management company then you need key people that you can trust close to that property.  Every time you visit the property make sure to take care of your handymen and cleaners.  Do not negotiate on price with them at all! Pay them what they deserve so that they enjoy working at your property.  They are your eyes and ears when you are far away.  Do you have a 7 night minimum/restriction for your building?  Is that way you don't try to squeeze in other rentals?  

 George,

How did you find these people in your circumstances? Trial and error? Have sufficient volume to keep them very busy? Hired them directly? People you knew already? Searching through yelp/Angie's list, asked neighbors who they use..?

I agree. People are always KEY. Joanna knows I gave my handyman a unit in one of my properties to keep him around, and keep him happy. Upped my cleaner's pay w/o her asking. Worth every penny ;) I think Joanna is already paying well, but maybe it's just tougher in SF..

Always through referrals.  I network and talk to realtors, owners, and managers and just keep asking which cleaners, handymen, plumbers, electricians they recommend.  That's for the remote location.  I want to make sure I have a few key people that I trust going to the house consistently.  How's your experience with vacation rentals?  Been profitable for you?  Looks like you're going to try another unit in the same building?  Love to hear more...

Post: GET RICH! (or die trying?!) SHORT TERM FURNISHED RENTALS - A discussion

George YouPosted
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@Account Closed I manage vacation rentals remotely and close by.  If you don't want to pass it off to a management company then you need key people that you can trust close to that property.  Every time you visit the property make sure to take care of your handymen and cleaners.  Do not negotiate on price with them at all! Pay them what they deserve so that they enjoy working at your property.  They are your eyes and ears when you are far away.  Do you have a 7 night minimum/restriction for your building?  Is that way you don't try to squeeze in other rentals?