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All Forum Posts by: Sam Hanaa

Sam Hanaa has started 13 posts and replied 77 times.

Post: First time investor. Buy in ontario or in the U.S.

Sam HanaaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 11

US market has many benefits that Canadian market lack , None existent of rent control, prices in general seem to be less crazy like here. on the other hand you need someone there to manage your property , but minimum down-payment and interest rates are higher for Canadian so be prepared for that too. 

Post: Finding off market deals

Sam HanaaPosted
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I wounder why in such hot market someone will sell off market beside to save on agent fees , be careful from surprises 

Post: First Time Buyer In Ontario

Sam HanaaPosted
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Originally posted by @Roy Cleeves:

I would recommend that you consider purchasing a multiplex.  If you can use that downpayment and finance a triplex then you will have two other income units to help pay your mortgage and an ideal rental property after you move out in a few years to your own single family home if you so desire.  Good luck

Thanks for the suggestion , but where in Ontario there is multi family building that isn't too old and need a ton of maintenance. 

Post: Market in Canada for Multi-Family

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If you are in Ontario , most likely people who live in 4 plex are not with a good credit score, I wonder how you are going to make sure they are good tenants 

@Anna Korishch  

Post: Ontario Markets - First Time Investor

Sam HanaaPosted
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@Ben Welch, same here, if you can increase your downpayment to 30% then you will be on the safe side cashflow wise, let us know here or on PM if you purchased anything. 

Also feel free to PM me if you want to exchange knowledge and ideas  

Post: Need your input on this pre-construction in Kitchener ,Onatrio

Sam HanaaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
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I have a condo town house pre-construction and to be completed in late 2022, the price is 400K , based on 2000 rent and 25000 closing fees  the cache flow will be -143 per month , now I know it is in negative , but my bet is more on price appreciation, also the hope of rent will go up in couple of years and it will turn to positive. Now I clearly know buying real estate with positive cache flow is the ideal situation, but that is not option for me in Ontario with <20% down payment .

I know nobody know future and all said here is opinion , but from your experience, knowing this realestate is in Kitchener Ontario  , do you think it is good investment for buy and hold ? 

Post: Does .6% rule profitable in Ontario

Sam HanaaPosted
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Originally posted by @Kiril Nikolaev:

@Sam Hanaa I bought my first property in Brampton 4 years ago. It did not follow the 1% rule. I didn't even know the rule back then. I just created a spreadsheet and ran the numbers. If it looked like it's at least breaking even I went for it. It was a single-family semi-detached house. I build a separate unit in the basement myself with friends to cut down the costs. At the end here's what the numbers looked like: 

  • Purchase price: $500K
    Downpayment: 20% ($100K)
  • Closing: $10K
  • Renovation: $5K
  • Monthly Avg. Cash Outflow:
    • Mortgage payment: $1,531.
    • Property tax: $300.
    • Utilities: $250.
    • Avg. maintenance allowance: $167.
    • Home insurance: $125.
    • Vacancy allowance: $100.
    • TOTAL MONTHLY CASH OUTFLOW: $2,473.
    Monthly Avg. Cash Inflow:
    • Rent: $2,600.
    • Utilities: $250.
    • TOTAL MONTHLY CASH INFLOW: $2,850.
    Monthly Free Cash Flow:
    • Monthly Free Cash Flow = Monthly Cash Inflow – Monthly Cash Outflow
    • Monthly Free Cash Flow = $2,850 – $2,485
    • Monthly Free Cash Flow = $377
  • NOI = $22,900
  • Cap Rate = 4.58%
  • Assumed Annual Appreciation: 5%
  • 1st Year Net Worth Increase (Total Return) = $23,740
  • Annual ROI Year 1 = 23.74%
  • Annual ROI Year 2 = 40.66%
  • Return on Equity (ROE) Year 1 = 23.74% (same as ROI)
  • Return on Equity (ROE) Year 2 = 30.29%

As you can see, this is about a 0.6% deal and I still made a bunch of money from it. It's now worth $700K or so. I refinanced and took all my original investment out. It still cash flowed (kind of), but I did have my fair share of bad tenants. This year, the basement tenant took full advantage of COVID and hasn't paid for 7 months during the eviction freeze. He now moved, so it's back on track, but these things happen. That's the risk we take. The risk is higher when it's not a 1% rule property.

I wrote an article about this deal specifically if you want more details on how I calculated these numbers. Just DM me (I'm not sure if I am allowed to post value-added links in this forum since they can be deemed "advertising")

 Great post thanks, I am planning to do similar, but most likely in cheaper places like Windsor, GTA now is out of my range. 

Post: Who's in for a GTA / Peel Meetup?

Sam HanaaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Posts 78
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I am interested in meet up too , I already created an online meetup but was deleted because  I am not a paid member . if you are paid member create a meeting on zoom and share it with us 

Post: 1% rule, 2% rule are BS...

Sam HanaaPosted
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The rule assume you will put 20-25% down payment, for sure if you but it all on cash most likely you will get it positive cache-flow unless some thing really go wrong . 

in Canada and especially in Ontario 1% rule is no longer applied unless you put large down payment. but for 20% down-payment this is just not possible  at least in large cities. 

Post: Banks beer look VS realtors Bull look

Sam HanaaPosted
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  • Posts 78
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 Sound like realtors in Ontario are so happy that market is active and prices are on rise for houses in general, while bankers have a bearish look and think the worst is yet to come. 

After doing some research the only metric I see is in line with the bearish outlook is the inventory , as I see house inventory is almost double the number of homes sold in Toronto. however we can keep in mind that because the market halt during the epidemic time. 

 Is there anyone here also have a bearish (negative) outlook to the housing market in Ontario ?