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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 7 posts and replied 473 times.

Post: Caught Tenant Smoking Weed

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As long as they don't make a custom of smoking marijuana in common areas (no reason to think they would based on what is posted here) then that is not even remotely an issue...

If your tenant is discreet about smoking the new tenants won't even know. For that matter, this likely isn't the first time she has smoked but it is the first time the owner/tenant made note of the issue.

Post: Caught Tenant Smoking Weed

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One more thing worth noting on weed smokers vs cigarette smokers:

People who smoke cigarettes stink. Their clothes stink, their hair stinks, their breath stinks, and, as a result, their house stinks even if they do not smoke in there. They walk outside to have a smoke, then go right back in reeking of it. 

Weed, on the other hand, is not like that. Personally I like the smell, but, even if you don't, it does not hang around the same way. It does not destroy the interiors of cars. It does not make your clothes stink after the initial smoke has dissipated. It's not nearly as "sticky".

Post: Caught Tenant Smoking Weed

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  • Henderson, NC
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Robert, absolutely everything you have said is about cigarette smoke. Nothing you say is even remotely accurate for marijuana smoke. It DOES NOT leave tar on the walls and other areas. Yes, the smoking device you are using will have a black accumulation. This is the tar. It does not come out in the smoke. It does not stick to the walls. It is easily ventilated outdoors without any consequences. 

Furthermore, I don't think anybody is defending smoking weed indoors, unless it is your own home. I've posted up my home as a very good example - after over a decade of 2 people smoking marijuana in here, nobody could ever tell. NOBODY. The carpet doesn't stink. My clothes don't stink. The walls don't stink and they have no buildup on them. I might also note the paint and carpet in this house is 20 years old.

If I smoked outside it would be even less of an issue. As for the quantity of smoke, I smoke about an ounce every 2 weeks, which is pretty similar to a pack a day smoker. You're trying to say a low volume weed smoker doesn't stink up the house because they don't make enough smoke - I can truly say I have made more than enough smoke to make my house stink...and it doesn't.

It's also not even remotely comparable to a BBQ grille, that is yet again an entirely different sort of smoke with an entirely different makeup. Not all smoke is created equal.

Post: Caught Tenant Smoking Weed

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Originally posted by @Robert Lorenz:

Just wanna poke my head in and say the latent smell from cigarettes AND marijuana is from the accumulation of TAR, not nicotine.  The reason there tends to be less accumulated/leftover stench from pot is because the frequency and volume is much much lower than cigarette smoking.  If you sit around your apartment smoking weed as much as the average smoker smokes cigarettes  (think 20+ joints PER DAY, every day, indoors, for months or years) then you will absolutely have odor and tar stains to deal with. By the same token, if you only smoke 3-4 cigarettes a day inside your home, a few times a week or whatever, the smell you're likely to encounter later will be a lot less nasty and intense, and much easier to eliminate.  It's all about exposure.

 This is factually incorrect. I have literally smoked POUNDS of marijuana in my home, because my medical marijuana permit states that I may only smoke it in privacy. I've been doing it in the same home for 10 years. I'm not the only person in my home who does it. There is NO tar accumulation anywhere in the house, that is not how it works. It's not much different than burning candles or lighting incense. Your argument about pot being smoked less frequently is false, I smoke all day long. My home, and my office where I smoke do not smell like anything. There is no tar on the walls. I know you might say I have gone nose blind to it, but that isn't true either. I leave for months at a time (I have a home on the west coast and east coast) and when I come home after 2 months and my nose sensitivity has gone up, I smell nothing. I do not smoke when I am out of the state. More than once I have smoked marijuana, and then gone to talk to a police officer - he was none the wiser and could not smell anything on my clothing or breath.

Personally, I hate the smell of cigarettes and won't allow them on my property, that is an entirely different sort of stench that sinks into everything. You can ban marijuana on your property all you want also, but this is a ridiculous ban without actual reasoning and it's obvious that most landlords posting here agree with me. (look at all the votes on my posts)

Post: Caught Tenant Smoking Weed

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It really depends on how the lease is written and how much of a dick the landlord is. Most roommate situations are on a lease separately, so that if one needs to be removed they can. For example, if one person on the lease gets a restraining order against the other, only one of the persons is required to leave. It's ridiculous to think it's a requirement to evict everyone in the unit based on the one time actions of one person.

And, as for any other tenants, the only other tenant is the owner, so he hasn't got much to worry about.

It doesn't really matter what you think you need to have your tenants sign, most places do not require such a thing, and even if they do, it's up to the landlord to enforce it or not. In the situation given here, you would have to be a complete idiot to evict this tenant over this one incident.

You're making much ado about nothing.

Post: Caught Tenant Smoking Weed

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 Come on Deanna, we know you're still reading this. How does one tenant smoking jeopardize the tenancy of anyone else? Surely you must have a reason since you posted as if it's a proven fact?

*crickets*

Post: Caught Tenant Smoking Weed

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Originally posted by @Deanna McCormick:

 the tenancy of all the tenants of  the apartment where the tenant lives that's violated the lease term. you file on one, you file on all. they are all responsible for the actions of what goes on in the apartment.

Is that really, or was that really, that hard to comprehend.@Account Closed

 Still not following you. If one resident is smoking marijuana it has no impact on the other residents.

Post: Caught Tenant Smoking Weed

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Originally posted by @Deanna McCormick:

@Account Closed

You want me to clarify "jeopardize your tenancy"

No, I asked you to clarify, as you wrote, "jeopardize the tenancy of all" How could this possibly jeopardize the tenancy of any other person?

 If the lease says you may do nothing illegal, and this was, then technically you could evict. It would also be stupid to do such a thing, this person is absolutely no danger to your property. Most people here agree with this, have you noticed that your posts have not gotten a single vote while mine have gotten well over a dozen?

A one time thing is NOTHING to worry about. If you got constant complaints about this tenant smoking marijuana, or they were selling, then yes, you should absolutely get rid of them. That is not the case here.

Your story about somebody getting shot is sad, however this is very unusual, and something that could happen at any apartment building, about any sort of deal that goes bad between two people. There is absolutely no link between marijuana and violent crime, this is a fact. 

Post: Really __ “Racist for landlords not to rent to felons”

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  • Henderson, NC
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This is exactly why you should never give them a reason for denial. Let them submit an application, if you don't like them for any reason simply respond with "you do not meet our qualifications", or, "we have chosen another tenant with better qualifications".

Tenants don't know in what order applications were accepted, or even if you have another applicant at all. If your unit remains vacant you could say the last tenant you chose ended up falling through, or simply ignore an applicant all together. Don't answer their calls, block their number.

Post: Tenant wants to pay for year up front

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Originally posted by @Thomas S.:

Never accept payment in advance, it remains the property of the tenant until the beginning of each month and the landlord may not use any except the amount owed each month.

Only in Canada, not the US. In the US, if a tenant pays you for a full 1 year term, that money is yours to do with as you wish. They cannot get a refund even if they move out early. It's the same as a month to month agreement, except it lasts longer. If a tenant has paid a normal month, but cause a problem half way through the month, you can still evict them under the right circumstances even though they still have 2 weeks paid left. Same goes if they have 2 months paid left. Depending on the situation you may have to refund them any unused portion of the rent...then again, you may not.

Generally it is a red flag when somebody wants to pay a year up front, but not always. You need to know exactly why they are doing this. I know a landlord with a tenant he has had for 9 years, every year he pays his rent a full year at a time. He's the type of tenant we would all love to have, very nice guy, very respectful of the property, no scam. He just likes to get his bills paid and out of the way.