All Forum Posts by: Ron Singh

yeah, label and gfci replacement i can do

its just in case there is breaker which doesn’t do anything, i guess have to trace the wire , in-case it goes to open circuit, or if not traceable so maybe have to remove that breaker and cover that open area with metal plate/cover in the panel ? not sure if i can keep breaker with blank label

also outlet under 6 ft from water i.e sink/cloth-washer/bathroom etc should have gfci, even if its at the end of the circuit.... so not adding new circuit, but there is something about separate neutral for gfci circuit as well

in garage i can find the first circuit and add gfci there.

Quote from @Alan F.:

Quote from @Ron Singh:

Hello BP family,

Do you see any concerns with these breakers, are they mismatched ? if so which color ones or which one should be replaced

inspector said somthing about mismatched breakers and need lables.

as if specific few breakers are changed later in time, they might have different make/color etc, do they have to have same make etc per code ?

i got the quote from licenced electrician for adding 4 gfci and labeling the breakers ( total $900) but he didnt say anything about mismatched breakers.

what do you feel ?

Here in CA all breakers have to be "listed" for the panel. Even though Siemens bought Murray many years ago (small 15a twins in your panel) they're not legal to use. The other 2 brands in your panel....Eaton & Square D are not legal.

This all seems trivial....until its not.

If the circuits, that the inspector is requiring, to be either/or afci/gfci protected have a dedicated neutral they will work (and are available through Siemens). If they're sharing a common neutral, then a afci/gfci receptacle will need to be installed as the 1st device in series.

Thanks @Alan F. I was in an impression that Eaton is okay with Siemens panel, thought just square D is not matching, and also Murray needs replacing.

do i have to have surge protector as well ? (inspector didnt mention but not sure if he creates issue in final inspection, also not seeing space in current panel to add)

(had a look at subpanel which solar company added recently, that one is square D. )

here is pic from Siemens panel sticker - 

Quote from @Chris Seveney:

Quote from @Ron Singh:

Hello BP family, 

Do you see any concerns with these breakers, are they mismatched ? if so which color ones or which one should be replaced 

inspector said somthing about mismatched breakers and need lables. 

as if specific few breakers are changed later in time, they might have different make/color etc,  do they have to have same make etc per code ?

i got the quote from licenced electrician for adding 4 gfci and labeling the breakers ( total $900)  but he didnt say anything about mismatched breakers. 

what do you feel ?

 tough to tell but what type of panel is it and are all the breakers square d? If they are different brands then yes, you want your panel to be the same type as breakers and all the breakers to be from the same manufacturer.

 panel is siemens, dated march 2022.

pic attached 

 thanks yes, that made me confused on why inspector said breakers are mismatched,  not sure if he is looking at make / brand / or color or what else would make these breakers mismatched. 

i will get them labeled, but thought to check if any of the breaker needs replacement as well, so can get done at same time.  i heard one of the older brand had some risk not sure if it was Zinsco or someother... thought if we have one of those 

Hello BP family, 

Do you see any concerns with these breakers, are they mismatched ? if so which color ones or which one should be replaced 

inspector said somthing about mismatched breakers and need lables. 

as if specific few breakers are changed later in time, they might have different make/color etc,  do they have to have same make etc per code ?

i got the quote from licenced electrician for adding 4 gfci and labeling the breakers ( total $900)  but he didnt say anything about mismatched breakers. 

what do you feel ?

thanks, who are the right party to have conversation with?  

should i contact licenced plumber/electrician to inspect and try for retrospective permit done 

or contact real estate attorny 

or ask for prior pics/proof from city - building dept ?

What would you suggest-

Town is saying there is violation for un-permitted work done by prior owner, i.e kitchen /bath remodel etc

Seller didn't mention for any un-permitted work, in disclosure they mentioned about flooring,cabinets and whole house paint etc only. 

would town have any proof of before pics or somthing to compare?

whats the best way to resolve the violations ?

 or any home Insurance company in CA which cover service lines for rental home 

anyone has any pointers ?

@Jacob Ansbacher

@Jacob Ansbacher

 good question

can anyone who used it can share their Experience ?

 @Tanner Duncan:

so with the homeserve, do you just call the plumber they contracted ? 

do they do snake camera as well by default ?

do you have to pay anythign each time you use the service or if they find any other blockage or broken pipe do they cover ?