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All Forum Posts by: Ronan Donnelly

Ronan Donnelly has started 5 posts and replied 319 times.

Post: Who is buying in this market?

Ronan Donnelly
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@Arthur P., it depends a lot more on the deal than the cap rate for me. One thing that I like about low cap rates is that you can create a lot more equity with a $1 increase in NOI in a low cap rate market than in a high cap rate market.

I live in NYC which has cap rates in the low 3% range and I can assure you that there are plenty of people making money. Cap rate is a very broad measure, intended to enable meaningful comparison between different assets so us it for that only. I would also caution against thinking of it as a measure of absolute risk, the amount of capital currently chasing yield is driving cap rates down, this does not in any way reduce the risk of the deal, it’s the opposite in fact. Good luck!

Post: Investor deal structures

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Hi @Nick Bennett, congratulations on growing your portfolio. Using other peoples money to scale further is a natural progression and it’s a win for you in that you can scale into bigger assets, and a win for them in that you are likely providing them with better returns than they can get elsewhere.

There are a lot of great books on syndicating and raising capital. For starters focus on building your network so that you can let potential partners know about deals when you next find one. You can also broadcast within your own network about the success you have had thus far, that way anyone who is interested in investing in real estate will let you know.

Post: What am I missing here guys?

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@Peter Nikic - this is pretty wild, I am currently posting from the bar at Alta. Go West Village BP crew :)

@Account Closed - I am thinking we need a west village meetup for BP members / real estate investors

Post: Who is buying in this market?

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There are a number of reasons why people are still buying, some good, some not so good.

1) Funds with cash - they are incentivized to deploy cash since holding cash will drag down overall returns

3) People who have access to deals whether they are just very good at finding off-market deals or they have already done so many deals that they are getting better deals from brokers

4) Whilst some markets are very hot, others are less so. If you are local you likely have an advantage and this can help you to find good deals

5) People who haven’t been through a real estate cycle and are less risk averse than others that have

At the end of the day it is impossible to time the market, I know this because I used to trade financial derivatives for a living, I spent my life on a trading floor and I have worked with numerous hedge funds. Even the best of the best are unable to consistently predict market cycles. It is also very expensive staying out of the market in the hope that your timing will be perfect enough to get a deal that offsets the lost returns. In my opinion it’s better to deploy a defensive strategy if you believe that the market is overvalued so that you can stay invested but with lower risk. 

Here is a 12 step program to reduce your risk

1. Focus on the right asset – multifamily real estate is popular during times of uncertainty because people have a preference for renting during these times and because it is valued intrinsically it is less prone to large swings in sentiment which can impact the value of single family homes.

2. Invest in real estate - it represents diversity in your overall portfolio so if you are taking cash out of equities to invest in real estate then you are potentially building yourself a portfolio that is positioned for excess returns with lower volatility. For a real life example take a look at the Yale Endowment portfolio.

3. Pick the right market – not all housing markets were impacted in the same way during the last recession. If you select a market with population growth, jobs and wage growth, a balance between supply and demand and a diverse range of employers you will do just fine. If you invest in a stagnant market with just one big employer then you will be exposed

4. Buy for cashflow, not appreciation – this is a cardinal rule of real estate investing. If you have a cash flowing asset you can hold onto it indefinitely, if you have negative cashflow and are hoping for appreciation you will end up being a forced seller in a down market. We can create equity in multifamily real estate by investing in our assets to grow rent, improve vacancies and by cutting expenses

5. Avoid high end real estate – high end real estate always gets hit first in any downturn as people migrate from more expensive to less expensive homes. By focusing on class B/C properties we expect to see an increase in demand and in rental rates during any downturn

6. Lock in long term financing – lack of available credit was the downfall of many homeowners and investors during the last recession. By locking in our funding we can eliminate one source of potential distress and we can also 'fix' one of our major expenses by locking in the financing rate

7. Increase your cash position – there will be opportunities to buy distressed assets from people who were not prepared, but you will need cash

8. Reduce Leverage – leverage can be used to provide higher cash on cash returns however along with leverage comes greater sensitivity to any loss of income. If we reduce leverage we may get lower cash returns however we do increase our ability to 'stay in the game' and not be forced sellers should rental rates decrease or vacancies rise. Being a distressed seller during a downturn is not where you want to be

9. Be more conservative underwriting – multifamily properties are priced based off their current financial performance only. When we are underwriting deals we can plan for a downturn in our assumptions e.g. increase expected vacancy and decrease rents to avoid overpaying

10. Dispose of weakest assets – this is simple portfolio management, it's key to let go of underperforming assets to free up cash and credit required to buy better performing assets. Don't wait until the recession arrives to sell underperforming assets

11. Increase cash reserves – whilst this can decrease returns it is all about being able to weather the storm, cash is king!

12. Have a range of exit strategies – If it isn't a good time to sell then you do have other options with multifamily real estate, provided that it is cash flowing. You could, for example refinance to get your cash out.

Good luck!

Post: Are real estate shows making it impossible to work with buyers?

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@Peter Tverdov, are you telling me that I can't just call a broker and get presented with 5 BRRRR deals for no money down? What!?!?!

Post: Unpopular Opinion: There's no big downturn looming over us

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@Allan Smith, good post and I am inclined to agree with you. It is impossible to time the market and it is likely more expensive to wait on the sidelines waiting for the perfect buying opportunity.

One of the main drivers of price appreciation in the commercial space is simply the amount of capital looking for yield which has been further assisted by regulatory changes that make it easier for people to invest. I don't see this changing any time soon.

Instead of waiting for the downturn, it can be better to focus on getting better at finding good deals, lowering leverage, increasing our cash positions, avoiding more cycle sensitive asset classes e.g. high end luxury etc.

Post: Book recommendations for newbies

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Hi @Keith Martin,

I found the following books helpful:

  • The Millionaire Real Estate Investor, Gary Keller
  • Multifamily Real Estate Investing: How To Buy Multifamily Properties The Right Way, Mitul Rana
  • The Best Ever Apartment Syndication Book, Joe Fairless
  • Crushing It in Apartments and Commercial Real Estate: How a Small Investor Can Make It Big, Brian H Murray
  • Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat: The BRRRR Rental Property Investment Strategy Made Simple, David Greene
  • The Wall Street Journal. Complete Real-Estate Investing Guidebook, David Crook

Post: Can you do BRRRR with little amount of money?

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@Justin Stetson - if you find a good enough deal, the money will find you. Focus on community and building your network, this will help you to have money partner options once you find the deal. Good luck

Post: Need help with Business Plan?

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I wouldn’t worry too much about asset protection strategies until you have got significant assets to protect. Put all your focus on networking and finding good deals and worry about the rest later on

Post: Cap rate in laymen's terms

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CAP rates are used to enable investors/owners/appraisers to compare different assets on a relative basis. This is necessary because no two assets are identical so it would not make sense to compare them on a cost or income basis alone. As others have posted, there is a huge amount of subjectivity into coming up with a CAP rate so that is just something to be aware of, take the value derived from the CAP rate for what it's worth.

As @Dennis M. started CAP rates are a metric of the risk in the asset. I would expand that a little further to say that CAP rates are a measure of the relative risk of two different assets. I would not use it as an absolute measure because CAP rates can also be impacted by demand or the amount of dollars chasing cash yielding assets. For example, the CAP rate on an asset 5 years ago would likely be higher than it is today based on the amount of demand pushing prices up. In this case the asset would be more risky at a lower CAP rate since there is less return.