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All Forum Posts by: Rob Gillespie

Rob Gillespie has started 44 posts and replied 1427 times.

Post: Wholesalers, are you ready to DIE for your deal?

Rob GillespiePosted
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  • Cleveland, OH
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Here is a quick list of questions I give to my wholesalers to get me answers to when sending me a property. Hope this helps anyone that finds it! :-)

20 QUICK QUESTIONS I MUST KNOW WHEN BUYING AN INVESTMENT PROPERTY

This form does not need filled out, this is just what the house guy needs to know when you offer him a house to purchase.

1.Address of property –.

2.Who owns the property –

3.When was the property last purchased and for how much?

Include purchase history off of public records if possible.

4.What is the owners story? Why are they selling?

5.Is it being wholesaled?

6.If there is a wholesaler, how much are they making?

7.Has the property been sent out to lists, marketed online, etc.

8.Is the property or has the property been listed recently?

9.Is the property occupied?

10. What is the CURRENT gross income of the property?

11.What is the POTENTIAL gross income of the property?

12.What repairs does the house need?

13.What updates have been done already?

14.Who pays for the water and sewer?

15.Is water and sewer current?

16.Are property taxes current? If not, how much is owed?

17.Mortgage or liens on the property?

18.Pics needed. Front (include houses on each side), rear, kitchen, Bath, furnace, water tank, electrical panel.

19.Copy of lease agreements with tenants contact info. (We will not contact without permission and we will only use to confirm intent on staying)

20.How quickly do we need to close? Is there any pending litigation on the property?

Post: Wholesalers, are you ready to DIE for your deal?

Rob GillespiePosted
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  • Cleveland, OH
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@Doug Pretorius. Very good question about what do I bring to the table. 

I bring the CASH to the table that the wholesaler may not have had available. 

Sometimes I may just have a group or Hedge fund that is looking for a deal 

and I bring the aspect of being a Co- wholesale partner to the table. My belief is 

that anyone that is involved in the deal has to bring value. 

Thank you for responding! :-)

Post: Using the RPM method to find Off-Market deals

Rob GillespiePosted
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  • Cleveland, OH
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Let's face it; we're all after the off-market deals.

You may use the MLS to find things, but I figured I would share with you exactly how I became the off-market king over the past two decades. I have really prided myself on being able to uncover all the deals that nobody else can. When I bring them out to marketplace to wholesale, resell or rehab them, people are surprised I found them.

I'm going to show you how to do it without spending a ton of cash on direct mail. I am going to teach you how to use the RPM method.

Recognize the deal

You have to recognize the deal first. This isn't a driving-for-dollars type method. A lot of times I’ll have my bicycle or go for a run and recognize a deal, sometimes by tall grass. Some people are just Hillbillies and don't cut the grass, but for the most part if you see tall grass chances are good it’s a vacant or a rental property.

Boarded up windows with the orange stickers are also a good sign. Usually once a house is abandoned and in foreclosure, a preservation company applies the orange stickers saying this house has been winterized or has lock changes, etc.

Also look for back taxes; back taxes are really cool. You're going to find those on public records when you look online, perhaps in the records of the houses with the high grass. But be careful because if you have back taxes on an owner-occupied property, they’re not as willing to sell as a non-owner-occupied property. You're going to approach those completely differently. We can talk about that later on. Be sure to notice the fault; that means that they get rid of the foreclosure file.

Divorce, death incarceration, city violations and evictions are all some telltale signs that a property is probably going to be a good house to buy and the seller might not even know it yet. The seller doesn't have it on the market but it has all the signs that it needs to go.

Find the person

Once I’ve identified houses that could be good candidates to buy, I try to find the right person involved. That's all going to start with public records. Public records will show who is on the title, what they paid and what they owe. There are some counties around the country that may not have public records online yet, but most are.

Once you find out where they are, look at the tax mailing address. Is it the same as the house you found? If you found the house at 123 Maple Street and it has tall grass and it's showing that the owners are John and Jane Doe and they live at 123 Oak Street, that’s a different tax mailing address. If the tax mailing address is out of state, that’s even better because that's probably even more of an unwanted property.

Next go to the neighbors. You’re going to want to talk to them especially if it's an owner-occupied property and has the same tax mailing address because if one of your neighbors disappeared tomorrow chances are you're going to know where they went. By asking the neighbors a lot of times, you’ll be able to find that homeowner.

If not, use a skip trace service. There are a ton of them out there, just put in a skip-tracing Google search. The skip trace software is amazing because the more data you can put in—the tax mailing address, the actual physical mailing address, the person's name, the cities they're in—it’ll start pulling all their known telephone numbers, email addresses and mailing addresses.

Start compiling all of that between what the neighbors have told you and what you found on public records. Get all of this data in one place where you can find these folks. From there, you can go right into direct mail, text, calls or emails. You can use services that will blast call and email them, but taking the one-on-one approach and actually physically calling yourself is probably going to work best. I get a much higher response rate when I'm directly calling them versus using a telemarketing service. I’m a little bit more personable and I'm actually mentioning details about the property. One of the tricks I use is when I’m leaving a message is to just say, “Hey, I'm calling for John and Jane Doe. I'm calling actually about their house over here at 123 Elm Street and I’ve got a check here for them. I'm trying to get in touch with them.” Guess who's not going to call back when there's a check involved, right?

Make the deal

We need to make the deal and this is all done through analyzing everything. You have to analyze all the data that you've found to analyze the value of the property. What’s it really going for? Analyze the home’s condition, possible repairs—what does it look like it needs? What are the homeowners saying that the property needs? Analyze the debt; this is a very important part because you want to know how much they owe? Are they in default? Are they current? How much are taxes? Is there a first mortgage or a second mortgage? Is there a spouse or ex-spouse involved? Is it through an inheritance and has been probated?

Finally, analyze the problem. What is the problem? If you're looking at it they might think there's one problem like, “I had to move because I'm out of state.” But there might be a whole other problem. There may be city violations, or they had a tenant that abandoned the property, or there are broken windows, tall grass, etc. Find the problem and see if you can solve it. Is it that going into wholesaling the property or buying the property adding value to this deal? You want to make sure that whatever you're doing makes sense. Then you have to negotiate the deal.

Explain to them where they are, where they should be and here's how you can help them get there. You have a property, your thirty days behind in the mortgage, you have back taxes, you have tall grass, but through no fault of your own, of course. Just happens you're in Texas taking care of a family member, or whatever it is. You're owed this amount. I could probably pocket you $5,000 on top of what you’re owed. And if that's the case then we can put this deal together and make this problem go away. That's all done through the negotiations and showing them how if they deal with you, everything will be, wonderful. And if they don't deal with you, everything's going to fall apart.

To review, the RPM method is recognizing the property, locating the person and then making the deal. I know I’ve simplified this quite a bit, but it really boils down to these three steps. If you follow these steps in a series of weeks and do this every single day, you're going to be amazed at how many deals you uncover.

Post: Wholesalers, are you ready to DIE for your deal?

Rob GillespiePosted
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Adding value to the deal

Everyone wants to get involved in real estate. We all watch Flip This House, or Flip or Flop or Fixer Upper. We hear about people wholesaling or renting, but we don't really dive into how you are making money on that investment property. It’s not just about the exit strategy, but your value-add strategy.

We don't talk enough about value add in this business. This really gets under my skin with wholesalers. These wholesalers will bring me deals and I love most of them, but with the new ones out there, the problem we run into is they're not bringing additional value.

To just be a middleman and buy a house for $50,000 and say, “Here it is for $60,000,” and not have any value added in there, it becomes a little complicated. If you're not willing to die for your deal then your deal will die.


Die for your deal
Here's my acronym, because isn't that what all gurus do? We have to do some sort of acronym to help explain things, so for this case it's DIE. D is for data, which is where the wholesalers are falling off.

I can't count how many times a wholesaler’s brought me a deal and I say, “Alright so you got it for $50,000 and you want to sell to me for $60,000, what does it need?” They say it needs $10,000, or $30,000. Well that's a big price difference.

How did you come up with that number? How'd you calculate that? How much in labor or materials and what are you doing for that? Give me some data. And how much is it worth? They say the ARV is probably around $100,000 to $120,000. Well what is it? What are those houses looking like? What is the market time on those houses? Do they sell quickly? What kind of rent does that property bring in? They say they aren't real sure. They aren't sure if it has a paying tenant or not.

My point is that getting the data will help me make an educated decision. A confused mind will just say no, so, you've got to provide the data.

The second way to add value to a property is income because without income a property's not an asset, it’s a liability. If you have a vacant property and pay me a property in disrepair and it's not feeding you income, you’re getting eaten up with property taxes with insurance, water bills, grass cutting, snow plowing, repairs and city violations. So now instead of making you money, it's costing you money.

Ironically, a lot of investors have properties right in their hometowns that they're doing nothing with; they’re just costing them money month in and month out. It's not cool to have a vacation home ten minutes from your house, so, figure out the income on the property. What kind of income doesn't currently generate or what kind of income could it generate? Show the potential income. Don’t just show the potential income with a hypothetical tenant, but a tenant that is fully committed to actually moving into that property with a set price. For example, saying that you know this tenant is going to move into this property provided we put $2,000 of repairs into it and they’re going to pay $900 a month on a 12-month lease and they're going to pay their own water and sewer. Now you can work your numbers backwards and show that this property has the potential to produce $10,800 in income with a $2,000 in repairs. Again, it's taking the guesswork out of it and putting it right in front of the investor and adding value.

Finally, the E in DIE is for equity. You can actually add equity. This happens naturally if you're in California, or some other hot area where you can buy a property today and then a week later it’s worth $100,000 more, it seems. Unfortunately, in Northeast Ohio, it doesn't work like this so much. So, you have to have forced appreciation; you have to push that appreciation. You get that equity by doing remodeling on the property, by adding value.

A lot of times by taking a two-bedroom and finding a way to chop a big bedroom in half and making it a three bedroom by adding a half or a full bath, or by converting a sunroom into another bedroom or more living space, you can make that property more valuable to give you an equity spread. That's going to give you the money in the back end.

To recap, to “die for the deal” is to gather all of your data that you can possibly can. If the taxes are too high, show how you can get them lowered. If you can cut expenses by passing water and sewer bills to tenants, show that. If you can show that it's going to be X amount of dollars, get three quotes of how much X amount of dollars is to fix that property. Get some people that are committed to renting or run an ad and show how many people called on that ad showing they were willing to rent it at a certain price. And finally, going back to the rehab portion to show what kind of equity you can put in the house. And if you are going to do that project then you can go ahead and move forward and get the equity.

Financing
A good way to wholesale or resell a property is to line up the financing. That's a really great way to find your buyer and really add value. If you can put the deal together and find your buyer the financing through a private money lender or a traditional bank that's easy to work with, that's going to make it much easier for you to sell that property and add value than it would be to do cash-and-carry.
Think about if you're selling a car in your front yard versus selling it in a car lot. If they can go to a car lot and walk in and sign their name and take that car over, it's going to move much quicker than it would selling your car in the front yard and them having to go find the money on their own.

Remember, as a real-estate investor, your job is to be connected and knowledgeable on how to put these deals together, how to find financing, how to run contractors, how to find tenants and how to manage the properties. You have to understand a lot of different aspects to really make money in this business. But that's okay. All the information you could ever need is all over the internet. You just have to sit and study it and plan on how to put it all together to make the property profitable. If you're not willing to die for your property then your property is probably going to die on you and you're not going to get a deal done. 

Truly yours,

Post: REAL ESTATE INVESTOR MARKET UPDATE FROM INVESTORS WITH 2000+DEALS

Rob GillespiePosted
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  • Cleveland, OH
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Yeah her strategy is not for everyone. Gonna be a great meet up though. A ton of the biggest North East Ohio Real Estate Players are going tonight.

Post: Has anyone worked with Sandstone Realty in Cleveland?

Rob GillespiePosted
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  • Cleveland, OH
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Good guys. I do not have anything with them, but they are good for certain areas. 

If you need someone to talk with, my right hand man lives on the river in Russia across from 

China. He can explain how our other foreign nationals obtain great managemet. 

Post: Who's your favorite traditional lender in Cleveland?

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Completely depends on the location of the propery and the type of loan you are looking to obtain.

Post: REAL ESTATE INVESTOR MARKET UPDATE FROM INVESTORS WITH 2000+DEALS

Rob GillespiePosted
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@Sean Cole If want to figure out what she does, come see her! 

She will be talking about the market overall, not just D and F areas.

Post: REAL ESTATE INVESTOR MARKET UPDATE FROM INVESTORS WITH 2000+DEALS

Rob GillespiePosted
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No doubt about it, the real estate market is back.
Prices and rents are (way) up, inventory is (way) down, lenders are (sort of) lending again, and competition is (definitely) on the rise.

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Post: How I built a portfolio of 35 rentals and $10k+ monthly cash flow

Rob GillespiePosted
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Thanks for sharing your story!! I wanrt to print this and share it with my out of town Cleveland buyers. 

Very REAL! 

Thanks again!