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All Forum Posts by: Robin Evans

Robin Evans has started 14 posts and replied 97 times.

Post: Current tenant applied for Section 8

Robin EvansPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 42

@Nicholas Boccella

Agree with @Jose Jacob. We are in Ohio and can say no to Section 8 voucher holders. We have three tenants who are on Section 8. We inherited all three tenants. Two were already on and one applied recently. We were worried when our tenant decided to apply for Section 8. Our property is old, not up to date at all but passed the inspection easily. If for some reason you didn't pass the inspection, they will give you chance to fix it. If your property is up to date, you don't have too much to worry about. Once they are on, rent is guaranteed from the government.  That is why our other tenant is not in a hurry to find a job, lol. If they have no income, Setion 8 may even pay it all if your rent amount is up to their standard. Here in Ohio, 2 bed standard is $ 750. Hope this helps! 
 

Post: Tough situation of veteran tenant being late on rent

Robin EvansPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 42
Quote from @Scott E.:

It's simple. Just adhere to the terms of the lease.

None of the other details about his bank account excuses, his wife, his kids, his future kids, his disability claims, etc are relevant.

I have a ton of love and respect for our veterans. But as a previous poster stated, you need to treat all of your tenants the same and stick to whatever terms you laid out in the lease.

The good news is it doesn't sound like you have a problem on your hands. He has already told you he'll pay rent in a few weeks, including the late fees, and he won't be late next month. 


 Thank you for your input! He says he is willing to pay rent and any late fees. Should we put this in an agreement? 

Post: Tough situation of veteran tenant being late on rent

Robin EvansPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 42
Quote from @Richard F.:
Aloha,

You state that you have been a landlord for a year, and tenant has been with you 9 months, which implies that you selected the tenant. You need to decide if you are running a charity or a business. If you go with business, you need to make significant improvements to your tenant selection process. You must keep Fair Housing in mind, if you make exceptions for this tenant, you will need to make the same exceptions for ALL tenants. Do you really want all of that drama?

Lesson learned! Their income met our criteria at the time but they didn't have long enough employment history. He then keeps changing jobs and she left hers to stay at home. We were under some pressure at the time to rent it out due to the coming mortgage payment. The question regarding Fair Housing, we did implement the same late fee rule to all our tenants without any exceptions. But our lease doesn't have grace period or say how long Landlord will let Tenant late on rent before evicting them. How long do you usually give them? And to start eviction, how many days of notice do you need to give tenants before the process? Thank you!

Post: Tough situation of veteran tenant being late on rent

Robin EvansPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 42
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

I'm usually the hard-core guy that says 'evict'....but yeah, you're right, this is different. If you're sure that he is doing everything that he can re Veterans affairs and assistance groups, then do some research and see if there is anything else you can help with. It's nice having that other unit, it allows you to have time to look for options.....

Thank you! He is quite sincere and I told him to look into Metropolitan assistance and he called right away. Not sure how long his disability increase and assistance can happen though. 

Post: Tough situation of veteran tenant being late on rent

Robin EvansPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 42

Dear BP freinds we are now facing a tough situation of collecting rent. One tenant has been paying rent via auto pay on a platform we have agreed on. Somehow this month's rent first got deposited into our account and three days later it got pulled out. I informed the tenant and he explained that when bank returned the money, his other auto pays drained his account so he doesn't have money to pay rent. He doesn't have a stable job because he is a veteran and his disability makes him harder to maintain jobs. His wife takes care of two children at home with another one coming on the way. They are having a hard time financially now. He has a claim with VA to increase his disability pays and it takes a couple more weeks before he can receive the increase (quote). By then he should be able to pay this month and next month's rent plus late fees. Meanwhile he is also applying for a program that can help veterans with rent and also in the process of starting college that once started, VA will also give housing allowance. He has been renting from us for about 9 months and has been a good tenant. Last time he changed jobs and couldn't make timely rent, he notified us in advance and was willing to pay late fee plus rent.

This is a duplex and the other side's rent can pay the mortgage in full. We are paying a fixed utility expense of $ 284 every month. Other than that, the property is quite new needing low maintenance. We have a bit  reserve in the account to help pay the utilities. We are one-year old landlord and this is the first time facing the tough situation, especially with veterans. Evicting is absolutely our last resort.
Do you guys have any similar experiences? What are some better ways to deal  with the situation other than evicting? Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!

Post: 2 Yr Househacker willing to answer any questions!

Robin EvansPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 42
Quote from @Nicholas Coulter:

@Robin Evans Find a local RE friendly attorney and they can guide you. I was able to write off a lot more since I live in the house with my tenants and I also claim all the income on my taxes!

Will do. Thanks!

Post: 2 Yr Househacker willing to answer any questions!

Robin EvansPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 42
Quote from @Nicholas Coulter:

My wife and I have been househacking for 2 years in Southern California and have been able to completely cover our mortgage in our 4bd SFH! I want to share as much learning lessons as I can so post any questions you have and ill respond!


 That is awesome! We just purchased a duplex to house hack too! Question is what can you count as operating expenses? Everything spent on the side you are renting out is definiately operating expenese.  We are doing some renovation work on the side we are going to live in. Can those expenses be counted as well?  Property tax? Split it in half as operating expense? What about our side's utilities? Thanks for your input!





Post: Can I change provision for month to month lease?

Robin EvansPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 42
Quote from @Colleen F.:

@Robin Evans of course follow your local laws.  Some places it is up to 90 days notice you need to give but if she stops paying you just file for eviction.  If it were me and she were on Month to Month I would send a nice letter saying as we discussed you stated you will be leaving by the end of the year. Please sign acknowledgement of receipt of notice of termination of tenancy on x date to confirm this agreement.  Frankly if she refuses to sign a lease and an acknowledgement she is leaving I can see an eviction in your future. If she keeps paying rent you will probably receive some acknowledgement verbally or via text that she received notice and that will document notice was sent, that said she still might not leave when you ask her.  


 We did give her a 6-month notice in person and she did sign it. My question is without a lease signed between her and us, will the old lease work if we have to evict her down the road?  Should we still sign a month-to-month lease (ends the end of 2022) with her using the old lease provisions just in case of future eviction? She has not caused any more issues so far, lol. 

Post: Insight on mortgages using BRRR method with investors

Robin EvansPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 42
Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Gina Shumway OK. No offense intended... but I think it's pretty difficult to BRRRR right now. You really need everything to break your way - you have to find a great deal, you have to have contractors ready to go, materials prices are up and it's taking longer to get everything, and then you have to refi with the higher rates that are available. I just finished one myself and I got everything right except for the appraisal - it was low and so I "left money in the deal." And I was able to refi at 6.5% which I don't think is available anymore.

So, I get nervous when people who have never done a BRRRR before are using tons of leverage, which it sounds like you are.

Just my two cents.

That is my concern too because it is hard to foresee the appraised value. We are thinking of getting private money to buy a duplex all in cash. Then rehab and cash out refi down the road and pay them back. I was trying to see how the numbers work out by the tools on Biggerpockets but not sure which tool I should use. If I use Brrrr tool, for the purchase loan details, if I select "cash purchase", I can't include the cost of interest paid to private lenders. It doesn't seem right if I choose the other way.  Any input on that?
By the way, what interest rate sounds fair in today's market for private money lenders? Thank you for your input!

Post: Can I change provision for month to month lease?

Robin EvansPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 42
Quote from @Colleen F.:

@Robin Evans of course follow your local laws.  Some places it is up to 90 days notice you need to give but if she stops paying you just file for eviction.  If it were me and she were on Month to Month I would send a nice letter saying as we discussed you stated you will be leaving by the end of the year. Please sign acknowledgement of receipt of notice of termination of tenancy on x date to confirm this agreement.  Frankly if she refuses to sign a lease and an acknowledgement she is leaving I can see an eviction in your future. If she keeps paying rent you will probably receive some acknowledgement verbally or via text that she received notice and that will document notice was sent, that said she still might not leave when you ask her.  

In Ohio, it is 30- day notice if on month to month lease. We will try to avoid eviction as best as we can. But if she pushes us to that step, we will just have to. Last time we handed her a late rent notice and asked her to sign, she did. Finger crossed, she keeps paying her rent and leaves by the end of year. Thank you so much for all the input and great ideas! Wish you the best!