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All Forum Posts by: Robin Evans

Robin Evans has started 14 posts and replied 97 times.

Post: Room rental questions

Robin EvansPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 42

Thank you guys again for the input! @Clara Arroyave DM sent. 

Post: Room rental questions

Robin EvansPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 42

Do you guys use a different lease than the regular rental for the room rental? 

Post: Room rental questions

Robin EvansPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 42

@Jamie Banks thank you for your input! Considering the area and condition of the house, room rentals seem to make more sense. Either way, it is better than vacant. If we Just rent one room out, it will cover our mortgage and utilities and still some cash flow. It is a matter of more or less cash flow. If we can rent both out, it will be bonus. 

Post: Room rental questions

Robin EvansPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 42
@Shannon Strickland
We have rented the whole unit upstairs to some co-op students but some others are looking for more affordable housing. So we would like to try out room rentals downstairs to see how it goes. We also put in the listing that the renters also have the option of renting the whole unit if they'd like to. Thank you for the input! 

Post: Room rental questions

Robin EvansPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 42

@Clara Arroyave @Ron Brady Roger that! We will not allow pets for the room rentals to avoid headache. Thank you for the input! 

Post: Room rental questions

Robin EvansPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 42

@ron brady @Clara Arroyave thank you for your input! We will do that. For room rentals, do you allow pets? This is a duplex. We do allow pets in the upstairs unit. But if there are two dogs in the downstairs unit for the two bedrooms, I assume that would be chaotic? 

Post: Room rental questions

Robin EvansPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 42

Hello everyone! We're looking to rent out our property on a room-by-room basis to travel nurses or co-op students. The master bedroom, complete with its own bath, is available for $850, while Bedroom 2, with a detached private bathroom, is priced at $800. Renting the entire property comes at a flat rate of $1500.

We've received interest from a female nurse specifically for the master bedroom, but she prefers not to share the space with a male tenant. While we're uncertain if we'll find another female tenant for the same timeframe, we're considering our options for the best course of action.

Should we rent the master bedroom to her in hopes of securing another female tenant for the same period? Or should we accept the potential loss on the second room if it remains unrented? Thank you for your input!

Post: Self employment or long term investment income

Robin EvansPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 42

@Michael Plaks thank you for your input! If we don't treat it as a business, can we still deduct all the rehab/holding cost other than the driving? 

Post: Self employment or long term investment income

Robin EvansPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 42

@Michael Plaks We bought it with the intent of rehabing and renting it out as a rental. Later on decided to sell it. Will that be considered as capital investment? It's just hard to prove our intent with documentation. We do all the rehab ourselves for our rentals but that doesn't make the rental income business income, right? Thank you for your input! 

Post: Self employment or long term investment income

Robin EvansPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 42
Quote from @Account Closed:

Hey @Robin Evans

To answer your question in a sentence: This will be "long term" income. 

Let's say you finish a house flipping project within a year. In this scenario, you're subject to ordinary income tax. Here's a breakdown:

Project Details:

  • Property Cost: $50K
  • Renovation Costs: $30K
  • Resale Price: $100K
  • Profit: $20K ($100K – $50K – $30K)

For instance, if your regular income is $50K, and you add the $20K from the house flipping, your total income becomes $70K. This places you in the third tax bracket, with a 22% rate. Additionally, there's a fixed self-employment tax.

Income Tax: 22% * $70K = $15.4K Self-Employment Tax: 15.3% * $20K = $3.06K Total Tax Due: $18.46K

Remember to account for any state taxes as well.

To defer taxes entirely, you could utilize a 1031 exchange, which allows you to reinvest the proceeds from the sale into a similar investment property, thus deferring the tax payment until a later date.

Example #2: Long-Term Capital Gains

Now, consider a scenario where you hold onto the property for over a year.

Project Details:

  • Property Cost: $70K
  • Renovation Costs: $50K
  • Resale Price: $200K
  • Profit: $80K ($200K – $50K – $70K)

Since self-employment tax doesn't apply, you only need to calculate the long-term capital gains tax. Assuming you're in a bracket with a 15% rate:

Long-Term Capital Gains Tax: 15% * $80K = $12K

For tax purposes, we want to either defer it via the 1031 or do the long term capital gains route whenever possible. Best of luck this tax season! 

Thank you for your input! We already sold it so the long term capital gains is what we strive for.