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All Forum Posts by: Robert Hytha

Robert Hytha has started 2 posts and replied 32 times.

Post: Looking to Learn A Niche

Robert HythaPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 32
Quote from @Juwan Parker:

I think this is a strength and a great place to start! My boss/mentors used to refer to me as a j.o.a.t.m.o.n when I started working with them at US Mortgage Resolution (USMR) in 2011 and sometimes I felt like it was a bit derogative (especially when they emphasized the second part...)

Combined with your growth oriented mind-set and this foundation of knowledge - your career has tons of potential! Personally, I would recommend setting up a wordpress blog/youtube channel and start documenting your journey to learn & earn $5k per month. Start building an email list with a lead magnet or enticing call to action. If you're into it, creating content can be one of the highest leverage activities, you can meet tons of people simultaneously and invite serendipity.

In the beginning don't worry about optimizing the technical stuff, just get up and running and start writing/posting videos - develop the skill, build your confidence and create a network! The internet is virtual real estate - your real life RE experiences might as well supplement a digital counterpart. 

Also, I agree with Chris about note investing - tons of unique strategies just within this niche, even with limited capital: one of our mastermind members just took down a package of 5 NPL 1st liens for $8.5k (I facilitate acquisitions from USMR). Before you take the leap and actually deploy capital, learn the business on the inside by providing a service to note investors of due diligence data-entry, internet research or digital collateral file audits. 

Armed with your future law degree, you could be unstoppable in the paper business - keep on learning, growing & strategizing!

Post: Mortgage Notes vs. Traditional Investing: The Why

Robert HythaPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 32

Hi Michael! While I wouldn’t recommend investing in mortgage notes if you don’t already own or plan on also owning a rental portfolio - notes are a great diversification to scale up cash-flow without the more management intensive responsibilities of owning hard assets. 

I think you should also own cash-flowing hard assets because while your mortgage note portfolio principal balance is paid down, the asset values (and rents) of your hard assets appreciate. A 30 year term on a re-performing note is a long time but will likely refinance early leaving you with more work to redeploy funds. 

So to answer your question, I invest in mortgage notes for outsized increases to the cash flow of my portfolio without the responsibility of more property management. And of course, the potential for diversification within notes is excellent since it is nearly location independent so we can work from home. 

Best of luck on your investing journey!!

Post: Mortgage Note Investing

Robert HythaPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 32

Hi Bryan! Buying a mortgage note is much less formal than purchasing a property. Most closings happen virtually and unless you are insuring title at closing (rarely happens in notes), the only 3rd party involved would be an escrow agent to confirm complete collateral and release funds. 

I close over $10MM of loan sales per year and my buyers use escrow less than 10% of the time. Most often, escrow is used when dealing with a new counter-party that you haven’t built a relationship with. I have never closed a note sale in person over my ten years and 10,000+ assets transacted. 

Post: Seveney Mortgage Note investments review

Robert HythaPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 32

Hi @Asia Jones! I'm not sure what capacity you will be "using" Seveney Mortgage Note Investments but I can speak to my experience selling notes to founder Chris Seveney. We have been working together for ~5 years and have closed many deals. Chris has purchased hundreds of loans and has always been a solid counter-party to work with.

Let me know if you have any other questions - happy to help.

Post: Full Time or Part Time RE Investor? What is your Business Model?

Robert HythaPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 32

When I got the notification that Bill had made a post I knew I had to check it out - he is the real deal. I've known Bill for almost 10 years now - what a great resource in this industry!

As for myself, I am a Full Time Rental & Note Investor. Most of my portfolio is rental properties, including a quadplex coin operated laundromat, several SFRs and many garage units. I have a geographically concentrated portfolio that I manage along with my wife Katharine.

On the note investing side, I own RPLs in my SDIRA and buy the occasional NPL. I would buy more 2nd position NPLs but rarely have the opportunity (in order to avoid adverse selection with my Trade Desk clients). All of the NPL sales opportunities I have access to go to the Trade Desk & Mastermind group first.

My primary full-time focus is on my company FIXnotes. Along with the Trade Desk, we offer a comprehensive free online course (How to Invest in Mortgage Notes), a regularly scheduled live industry show on YouTube (29+ hours of free video content) and a private Mastermind group (35+ members with a combined AUM of $100MM+).

FIXnotes business model consists of distressed debt consulting & portfolio management (250 NPL total active portfolio max) but so far in 2021 much more of my time is focused on creating value in the Mortgage Note Mastermind. We are building a State & County specific database for mortgage note related specifications nationwide, vendor rolodex, document template repository, over 50 case-studies, forums, a market-wide aggregated trade desk and more. 

Personally, my investment business model is buy & hold, leveraging historically low interest rates. I started in the notes business as an intern in 2010 & bought my first rental property in 2013 (long before I moved out of my parent's garage)

Post: Online Market Places for Buying Mortgage Notes

Robert HythaPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 32

Hi Aaron, Dan Deppen from Fusion Notes posted a great YouTube video on the topic in 2018 and there is a comment from FIXnotes below the video with some updated information. Where to Buy Mortgage Notes

Q3 2020 update:
1. Granite - no longer in operation
2. Kondaur - make sure you build a relationship with a personal rep
3. FCI Exchange - no longer in operation
4. Paperstac - this is a multiple-listing website, make sure you vet each individual seller - your experience will vary greatly based on the counter-party.
5. NotesDirect - expensive listings, mostly retail pricing - deals appear to be vetted well though
6. Watermark Exchange - I have met Val Soltir as well, he's a great salesperson! Don't skip your due diligence on individual assets.
7. Brokers - vet your brokers! Make sure to pull the recorded assignment of mortgage from the county and confirm the relationship with your broker Dave Pollio (SNSC), Paul Banninger (NLEX), Jonas Roth (MountainView), etc
8. Banks & Hedge Funds - move up the food chain! Try credit unions & local banks. Direct, personal relationships are key (try searching Linkedin for Loss Mitigation, Asset Managers, etc)
9. Attorneys - search public records to find the most active attorneys in your market, relationships are key!
10. Other Investors - lots of online note groups and virtual events coming up, network!
BONUS:
11. DebtX
12. Loan MLS

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Post: Getting Started in Notes

Robert HythaPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 32

Hey Kevin! 

Agree with Bob - Josh is a great resource in this business.

There's also FIXnotes.com for a trove of free content (and a weekly hour-long YouTube show)

Post: Note analysis and investing

Robert HythaPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 32

Hey Todd! Yes, you could hold a note for a few years and resell. Better yet - the borrower may refinance giving you a full payoff (assuming there is enough equity).

I would recommend getting comfortable with the Excel formula XIRR(), that will give you a much more accurate internal rate of return. Model the complete income stream to maturity using XIRR() then make tweaks (lump sum for remaining balance owed in year 5, for example) to review your return across these different scenarios.

Post: Note Investing - Day 13 of 14 Thank You's

Robert HythaPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 32

I second that! Fuquan and I had a blast on a panel with Cathie at Mahir & Mark's Distressed Debt Expo in NJ last year.

First time getting to know her, she was a knowledgeable panelist and a great person all around!

Andrew McDannels on the other hand.... just kidding! Awesome guy as well :)

Post: 24 yr old from the Suburbs of Philadelphia

Robert HythaPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 32

Good afternoon guys and gals!

Thanks for all the great feedback! 

@Mitch Coluzzi Wow! You've acquired an impressive portfolio in a short time and at such a young age, I'm inspired! I'm very interested in following your endeavors and if we're ever in the same city, let's meet up! (that goes for everyone on BP, send me a message if you're local or have any trips to the Philly area planned!)

@M. Bickers Thanks for the counter to Mitch's ideas about living where you rent as well as the reiteration on the dangers of emotions in investments. Too bad you didn't get to live out your dreams with the 2nd floor, but I'm glad it turned out to be a good decision in hind sight!

Living where you rent

I'm going to have to agree with M on this one! My parents have built a very successful rental business by only purchasing homes within walking distance to our house. I followed their example with my first investment properties and so far the locality has been a great convenience (plus the town has HUGE potential). I can understand Mitch's hesitation with being neighbors to your tenants but we have been doing it at my parents house for 18+ years with no major issues (a dozen tenants live either right next door or within a stones throw). To give myself a little buffer, I have made a point of presenting myself as the property manager not the owner. This way, I can always buy some time on decisions by telling tenants I need to discuss with the owner. 

I have a completely different strategy when investing in mortgage notes and my geographical focus is nationwide. The difference is that when you're the bank (a mortgage note holder), you have no obligation to the owner of the property for repairs and maintenance (In fact - it's the other way around! The property owner agrees to keep the property in good condition).

Emotions and investing

I've had first hand experience of the perils of making emotional decisions about investments and I think I've learned my lesson... I'm terrible at speculating on equities because I continue to make this mistake. One example - I doubled my money on Tesla selling at $60 a share (it now trades for $280+). In this example I got lucky, most of the time I lose... Let's just say I'm net-negative in the stock market :(

As for the 2nd floor project at hand. Yes - I'll admit that I'm emotionally invested but I also have the evidence to suggest it's a good investment. My parents actually have already completed a very similar project on top of our garages at home. It was even more difficult to get approved as the garages spanned across 2 different property lines, but my dad was able to get it done! Therefore, the zoning, use/occupancy approvals, and even the construction isn't my biggest concern. 

Also - the numbers work! 1,000 sq ft condos with one garage parking spot within a mile are selling for $175k+ and rents are ~$1,500. I've had the project unofficially estimated and for what I'm looking for, I should be able to get it done for less than $100k. 

I will probably push to split the property so the garage structure is on a separate parcel and am confident this new construction on it's own parcel will appraise for $200k+. Assuming I can build within budget and I'm able to get the parcel divided (which is already been established by precedent for this property with the previous split) then I will own 2 properties conservatively worth $350k combined for a total cost of less than $290k and a monthly rental potential of $3,200 (as of today, but certain to increase). A $100k outlay for an additional $1,500 per month is a better yield than I would get buying another rental in the area. I think you might be right in stating that your ROI (calculated based on equity) on hardscaping, kitchen and bath renovations would be greater but as a buy & hold play, I am placing more value on increasing monthly rent potential. Adding another unit seems to be the best way to maximize rents (at least at this time as I'm 100% occupied for another year).

With mortgage financing super cheap I really want to lever-up and lock in these low rates on cash-flow positive properties with upside potential from appreciation. This deal fits the bill and allows me to push myself to achieve something that I think has the potential to turn out awesome. 

PS - side note, I need more advice! My tenants texted me yesterday with an emergency situation where they needed to give their friend's cat a home and are willing to pay $100 extra per month. I told them if they keep it out of the third floor (where there's carpet) it might be a possibility. Any opinion here on allowing cats?