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All Forum Posts by: Rob Ferdinand

Rob Ferdinand has started 5 posts and replied 38 times.

Post: Newbie from Boston, Massachusetts (actual Boston, not "Boston")

Rob FerdinandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 16

@Timothy Walsh Welcome to BP! I'm fairly new here myself and it's been an Invaluable resource. I've also been through several books and tons of podcasts here, all have been super helpful. I've learned so much about tons of different strategies. I grew up in Eastie (East Boston) and it's amazing what they've done, I've seen it come a very long way. The triple decker condo-conversion game is very popular there, as in Southie. I live in Winthrop, it sounds like you must run right by my house, funny. Good luck on your journey!

Post: Any experience w/ Max Maxwell's "REI" Rail lead generation?

Rob FerdinandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 16

I wish I had seen this before investing in rei rail. It's been a year since these everyone posted these issues, and I'm having the same issues. It doesn't drop land lines, and I'm not confident in their DNC scrub,  I lose 60% of my list based on LL's and DNC's. 

The funny part is I also used Max's rei skip, which also scrubs against DNC. Skipping a list of about 350, I got 7 DNC hits from rei skip. Then rei rail tags a TON of DNC when running campaign. Overall extremely buggy and very frustrating starting over several times. 

What is everyone using these days for RVM & SMS? 
Feedback from the BP community is much more valuable to me than online reviews.

I see Mevelin, above, uses rei reply. I tried that and never actually used it because it seems way over-built and when canceling the rep told me it takes 30-45 days to learn. I'm pretty computer savvy but don't have a month to invest in learning a clunky software.

Thanks guys!

Thanks!

Post: Massachusetts Wholesaling Contracts

Rob FerdinandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 16

Hey Michael. 

I just went through the same hunt. One lawyer told me to use standardized contracts, and that it would be simple to include a termination clause. Another suggests drafting each contract individually, and that in MA a written offer is essentially the same as a P&S, so most skip the offer and go directly to P&S.


He was not so confident that we could add any exit clauses outside of your typical inspection period. I'm curious to hear what your lawyers have said about that. 

Also, Any deals yet?

Post: newbie interesting in wholesaling

Rob FerdinandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 16

Hi Ellie.  I've learned a ton about wholesale deals over the past weeks. DM me and I'd be happy to share some of the best educational resources I've found. It's not clear to me what youd like to do with wholesaling, buying yourself or assigning.

If you're considering acting as the middle-man in a wholesale deal, as the assignor, you want to learn about these 3 areas.

1. Prop/lead gen. (How to source motivated sellers, Marketing strategies and budgets.)

2. Acquisitions (How to reach your sellers, qualify them, DETRMINE ARV, negotiate, secure contracts)

3. Disposition (The legality behind the close, what is the exact legal process. Are you a title or attorney state? How to find cash buyers etc.)

Post: Boston refuses to cash flow

Rob FerdinandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 16

@Adam Sankowski

All valid points. I've been in the construction industry for many years. From swinging a hammer to managing projects of about $500k  a month. The reason I insist on including PM costs is because once I acquire rentals all over (hopefully, right?) I know I am not going to be running around fixing leaky sinks when my time should be spent on  larger income producing tasks.  

When I wrote this original post, what I wasnt calculating was the longer term numbers, what happens between year 2 and 5. Numbers change drastically when considering appreciation and loan paydown, rent increases and a possible refi timeline etc. As well as all the reserves ("expenses") maturing in an account, allowing me at some point to dial them figures down a bit.

Has anyone had any luck buying distressed off market deals in Eastern MA? I've reverse engineered the path to my long term goals and will either be wholesaling properties to investors AND my own flip project(s), or just start with a flip. Pretty sure I'm putting this multi family house hack on ice, for now. Still working it out. 

@Nick Love

For my day job I'm up about 5am. I typically skip brealfast ( I know, its bad) and make an iced coffee before heading out the door. Work starts 6-630am.

After getting the crews out into the field, and all the adhoc morning items, sometimes its 12 noon by the time I look up and take a breath. I'll often work through lunch without eating. An average day is 10-12 hours. Once I'm home, a lot of the time I'll stay up late geeking out on REI, weither videos, books, podcasts etc. After finally eating, of course.

Quarantine has allowed me tons of free time, being out of work. To be honest, I've squandered the first 2 months enjoying my "vacation". Now waking up before 10am is early for me haha.

The past 6 weeks I have been super productive in regard to REI. I've been completely obsessed, consuming content all day long. Watching videos, podcasts, audio books, BP forum etc. I'll find myself awake at 5am watching RE YouTube videos.

I've been able to put together a REI "side hustle", which I think is really cool and interesting. Once I'm successful, I'll post more about it.

Post: Boston refuses to cash flow

Rob FerdinandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 16
Originally posted by @Brian Z.:
Originally posted by @Rob Ferdinand:

Thanks, Brian. Great info. What is the average annual rent increase you use in these models? 

I usually do multiple but simple models using rates between 2% to 5%, so I could see what the return looks like between conservative to aggressive. I think 5% is as high as I would go. 3% is probably a good conservative average. This year is obviously tricky because we could see a little more inventory and coupling with high unemployment. I anticipate we're going to hold steady for the rest of the year at least this is what I'm seeing so far. 

I do the same thing for ROI. Even at 3% annual increase, we're looking at around double digit ROI in the long haul. I don't do models for other cities, but I do look at similarities between large international metros with no land to build. Places like NYC, SF, Hong Kong, and London are all in a similar situation and you could see continuous increase without slowing down.

Btw, as much as I like running numbers, I also remind myself not to let myself get into analysis paralysis. The market won't wait for us to redo our models. I think this is why having a RE license helps because it gives us just a little more room to make mistakes. 

That all make sense. 

Thanks!

Post: Boston refuses to cash flow

Rob FerdinandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 16
Originally posted by @Josue Velney:

@Rob Ferdinand FHA buy and hold still work. The key is not to be afraid to make a lot of offers. Run your numbers to where you feel comfortable. I explained this to one client and it worked. She kept watching MLS and saw the listing agent dropped the price. My client quickly offered lower than the new listing price and the seller accepted her offer. Real Estate Investing is a game of numbers. You will never get an accepted offer if you are not writing offers my friend.

Thanks, Josue. Since this post I've changed my strategy a bit. The end game is the same, but the path to get there may be trying my hand at wholesaling. 

As you mentioned, it's a numbers game, like anything else. I've received lots of feedback on wholesaling that hasn't been very encouraging. One main point people have been making is that wholesale deals are 1:100. I'm okay with that, so long as I can drum up enough leads ro support the volume of deals I'd need, it's just simple numbers. I've found a lot of great programs and marketing strategies to flip the leads. 

This post has offered a lot of great insight. I'm wondering what everyone's take is on setting up a wholesaling operation? 

I think, in the long term, having a wholesaling "lead machine" finding deals would be my best asset to fuel rehab/flips as well as BRRRR and buy & hold rentals.

Post: Boston refuses to cash flow

Rob FerdinandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 16
Originally posted by @Brian Z.:

Hi Rob,

BRRRR or house hack could work in Metro Boston but we find it too difficult to find deals these days because of low inventory and competition. We also find it even more difficult if you'd like to focus on a specific set of towns as there will be even fewer opportunities you could find.

Based on my analysis around City of Boston and surrounding towns, we pretty much gave up on CoC numbers at this stage because one would have to put down a lot more money to get better CF. We focus more on Buy and Hold in areas where we see strong rental demands and accessible to T. Our aim is to maintain positive CF (even the CoC number is crap initially) just to "cover". We feel that the rent prices will increase within a few years to provide better CF. However, the biggest gain in this market will likely be appreciation and not CF. If you're planning to hold at least 5 years, I'd suggest you tweak you model a bit and see what would happen to CoC if the rent continued to increase per the current trend. I know this is not for everyone but that's also the market we're in, unfortunately. People can't save fast enough to buy and the lack of inventory keep driving the prices up.

One thing I do think you should consider if you intend to work on more deals. The best decision we've made was to get a real estate agent license. For every property we purchased, we "saved" anywhere from 2-2.5% because we would opt for lowering the sale price instead of collecting our "commission". It didn't make any difference to the sellers and the agents because their net would be the same. This also gives us a little more room in each deal both from a reserve standpoint and in case of a bidding war. Last but not least, as you work with more and more agents in your focused area, you could get first dip on pre-market deals especially if the agents know you could get financing and easy to work with. That's certainly something to consider if you're willing to study for it.

Cheers, Brian

Thanks, Brian. Great info. What is the average annual rent increase you use in these models?

Post: I haven't slept in weeks...wholesaling?

Rob FerdinandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 16
Originally posted by @Lee Ripma:

@Rob Ferdinand

Good for you man. I agree that finding deals is better than selling pretty houses to retail buyers. Just make sure you do one thing well first, then another, then another. The myth of the motivated seller, not that many of them. You’ll see.

Thanks for the reply. Maybe the sellers aren't out there in numbers, I guess I'll find out! If nothing else it will be a great learning experience and I'll pick up skills along the way that I can apply to another aspect of REI.

Thanks