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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 31 posts and replied 356 times.

Post: First Flip Failed, $1M+ ARV

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  • Downers Grove, IL
  • Posts 366
  • Votes 165
Originally posted by @Bart H.:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Thanks Bart, they are relatively new in the Chicago market. Still see vehicles in their parking lot with Texas plates on them. I am not sure if hard money lending doubles flip risk or not? I am inclined to flip only using my own cash, seems safer.  

Our first flip we did with our own cash and some private credit lines that we had available thru a credit union and a couple of different banks.

We seriously spent just under twice what we thought we would and ended up taking several months longer to sell than we hoped.  (mostly because we finished our project around Thanksgiving).  Had we been beholden to hard money and not had enough assets to complete the project, a small loss that we took might have ended up as a very large loss.

IF you can do it, I absolutely would start out with cash reserves and/or low cost lines of credit instead of using hard money lending.  

 Bart, you pretty much nailed my flip trepidations, over budget, and taking too much time. I think there is a fairly good chance I will screw up on one or the other or both on my first few flips. I plan on holding a 25% cash reserve fund on all my flips just in case things don't go as planned. Hard money on a flip reminds me of people who use margins to purchase shorts, the return can be spectacular, or you can lose all your principal fairly easily. 

Post: First Flip Failed, $1M+ ARV

Account ClosedPosted
  • Downers Grove, IL
  • Posts 366
  • Votes 165

Thanks Bart, they are relatively new in the Chicago market. Still see vehicles in their parking lot with Texas plates on them. I am not sure if hard money lending doubles flip risk or not? I am inclined to flip only using my own cash, seems safer.  

Post: Selling without Realtor

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  • Downers Grove, IL
  • Posts 366
  • Votes 165

Since my office fees are minimal I can pay a 5% Co-op and be in nearly the same position as someone without a license paying a typical full service agent fee. Even if it were not against MLS rules and illegal, I still would not lower Co-op fee, a deal is a deal. If the buyer broker wants to rebate some of their fee to a buyer, I am fine with it, but would not try to push them into it. As far as going 5.5 or 6% ,on the Co-op, expect there is a point of diminishing returns on commission levels at some point. I also don't want the property bid up so high it won't appraise out, that seems more likely to happen the higher you go over average on the Co-op.

Post: First Flip Failed, $1M+ ARV

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  • Downers Grove, IL
  • Posts 366
  • Votes 165

Really enjoyed reading about your experience, most impressive to me was your attitude of owning your mistakes for bad hires and business decisions, regardless where life takes you that is important. I met recently with Net Worth Realty in IL, if I purchase anything through them it will likely be with cash. I think going into flips that need a lot of work highly leveraged is very risky, too much potential for things to go wrong. Even with all my own cash their risky, but at least I won't be paying serious juice to a hard money lender. 

Post: Selling without Realtor

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  • Downers Grove, IL
  • Posts 366
  • Votes 165

21/2  is 90 plus% of listings, so betting on a much bigger  commission making a difference.

Post: Selling without Realtor

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  • Downers Grove, IL
  • Posts 366
  • Votes 165

Listing soon with a 5% co-op, property off busy streets, hopefully a bigger commission will help move it. 

Post: Selling without Realtor

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  • Downers Grove, IL
  • Posts 366
  • Votes 165

I trust commission dollars to motivate agents to sell houses, more than I trust agents ethical claims to represent the best interest of their buyers. I have great faith in parties to act in their own financial interest before their fiduciary duties. At the end of the day FSBO, discount broker or full service broker matters less than Co-op commission motivation. If that commission mmotivationis less than it will hurt the sale price. Serious buyers usually ignore FSBOS, unless an agent with a commission motivation steers them toward it.

Post: MLS vs Zillow what’s the difference

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  • Downers Grove, IL
  • Posts 366
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If your looking on realtor.com, that is not the MLS, and not set up very well for that type of search. I've been able to locate solds on realtor.com before, just a awkward user interface. redfin, might work better for the task.

Post: Is a Real Estate crash imminent?

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  • Downers Grove, IL
  • Posts 366
  • Votes 165

One thing I know for certain as a group and combined with their trade associations, people who sell real estate are about the worst people to ask if a crash is coming, they always claim it's a great time to buy, regardless of the market.

Post: Is a Real Estate crash imminent?

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  • Downers Grove, IL
  • Posts 366
  • Votes 165

I see a correction coming  18-36 months out.  Probably nothing like 2008. However, condos where I like to invest for cashflow likely will get hit harder and sooner than other parts of the market. As far as suburban B neighborhoods, cheap built single famlies not needing 30K plus in updates are selling in days by us. Don't see that changing any time soon, for good suburban locations, the far away stuff just like the condos, will take a harder and faster hit.