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All Forum Posts by: Richard Goore

Richard Goore has started 10 posts and replied 65 times.

Post: First multi-family Purchase

Richard Goore
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  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 70
  • Votes 33

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $225,000
Cash invested: $56,000

Purchased 4-plex from a wholesaler. No vacancies when I took over and at a 9.2% CAP. Plan to make some tenant improvements to push rents closer to market rate for the area. Goal is to get it up to 11%-12% CAP within the next couple year. his is a buy/hold property as an entry into multifamily.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Have been wanting to get into muti-family instead of single family properties.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Found it through a large wholesaler who works in multiple states. They provide the properties along with their insights and a home inspection. They are investors as well and have good contacts in most markets they sell properties in, insurance, property management, etc.

How did you finance this deal?

purchased in cash from wholsealer. Did a DSCR loan after 6 months to pull the bulk of the cash back out.

How did you add value to the deal?

I will plan to improve the common areas, property fencing and siding. 3 of the 4 units have been turned in the past few years so there is not too much to do inside. The last unit has a long term tenant (10+ years). While I appreciate that & don't want to push them out, they are well below market rate & the unit is a disgusting mess, approaching hoarder status. I am hopeful they will want to work with me to get things repaired and updated to validate appropriate rent increases.

What was the outcome?

Plan to keep for a minimum of a few years to see what I can do with it.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

The biggest challenge will be with the one long term tenant. Her unit needs to be improved or I fear that the costs to fis it up will grow without decent maintenance.

Post: Property Manager Recommendations in Sacramento

Richard Goore
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  • Realtor
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 70
  • Votes 33

Good info in Michael's response. Not all property managers are affiliated with brokerages, at least in Sacramento.  I recommend Grow Properties to my clients.  Kyle (one of the principals) is honest and had integrity which is why I trust him with my clients. I get nothing from referring to them other than knowing he will take care of my clients as I would.  I recently recommended another client to them who already knew of them after extensive research.  This client is extremely detailed and particular so that said a lot to me.  Good luck with the search!  

Post: Are Short Term Rentals allowed in South Lake Tahoe?

Richard Goore
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  • Realtor
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 70
  • Votes 33

If you are looking in/around the Tahoe area, the CA side of the lake would be your easiest route. 

There are very limited locations in SLT and as others have mentioned for STR units. I own a STR unit at Northstar and managing the permitting process has been pretty easy. As of today (6/27/24) there are still 433 permits available. This makes it easier for investors when there are still such a large number available as you can't apply for a permit until you are the owner of the property. Permits are also NOT transferable. There are discussions of lowering the permit quantity but nothing definitive yet.

There are some things you will want to think about before purchasing in the area - insurance, fire mitigation, etc.  Happy to talk further if you have more questions. LMK

Post: Loan options on 4-plex in IN

Richard Goore
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  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 70
  • Votes 33
Quote from @Graham Rider:

@Richard Goore If you decide to go the route of a DSCR loan make sure you shop around a bit with different lenders. Sometimes you get a lender who will be more aggressive on the rates.

Depending on how much you want to leave in the deal your rate may change so do some scenario analysis to decide what gives you the best return. If you are thinking a long-term hold the Cash on Cash metric will likely be the most helpful in evaluating your deal with interest payments.

@Richard Goore

Thank you!  I plan to shop around for my information as well as to get the right option. 

Post: Loan options on 4-plex in IN

Richard Goore
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Quote from @Graham Rider:

@Richard Goore If you decide to go the route of a DSCR loan make sure you shop around a bit with different lenders. Sometimes you get a lender who will be more aggressive on the rates.

Depending on how much you want to leave in the deal your rate may change so do some scenario analysis to decide what gives you the best return. If you are thinking a long-term hold the Cash on Cash metric will likely be the most helpful in evaluating your deal with interest payments.

@Richard Goore


Post: Loan options on 4-plex in IN

Richard Goore
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  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 70
  • Votes 33
Quote from @Alex Bekeza:

@Richard Goore Well said, even if you have great DTI and could save a few bps w/ Fannie/Freddie, DSCR loans can certainly be the easy button. Aside from the easier qualifications you can also get higher LTV on a 4plex for "cash out" and vest title in a LLC if desired. DSCR loans also won't report to your credit as a tradeline.

On the more aggressive side of things you should be able to pull up to 80% of the recent purchase price right away, or, after 90 days of ownership you could get up to 75% of the new appraised value. (most banks want 6 or 12 months but some DSCR lenders can do 90 days)


I'd like to pull as much out as possible. Do DSCR loans require an appraisal (drive by or actual)? I'm thinking value will be close to what I bought it for, hopefully a little higher. This is new for me but I am most likely going to open an LLC for this property as well.

Post: Loan options on 4-plex in IN

Richard Goore
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  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 70
  • Votes 33
Quote from @Zach Edelman:

When did you purchase the asset exactly? DSCR lenders will have different rules on seasoning (i.e the amount of time between when you bought the property vs. when you closed on the refinance) for how much cash you can pull out and whether or not the appraised value, as opposed to the cost basis (purchase price + rehab costs) can be used to determine the loan amount (i.e LTV * appraised value = loan amount).


Closed Friday. I’m okay with seasoning but do want to pull as much out as possible for additional RE investing. 

Post: Loan options on 4-plex in IN

Richard Goore
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  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 70
  • Votes 33

I just purchased a 4-plex in IN with cash. I would like to put a loan on the property to pull out as much of my cash as possible to use for other property investments. Wife and I have high credit score and we are high income earners (her W-2 & 1099 for me). Was looking at DSCR so it was easier than compiling so much info on our personal finances. I believe we would hit the >1% ratio for this. I am thinking I will keep this long term as I focus on improving rents, so a holding period is not a big deal as long as it is not too long. Longert term goal is to purchase larger apartment complexes.

Am I missing out on other options?  TIA

Post: Beginner Wholesale question

Richard Goore
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  • Realtor
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 70
  • Votes 33
Quote from @Scott Scoville:

Find the deal! Plenty of buyers in the Sacramento area. Add me to your buyers list as well:-)


 Agreed. Plenty of people looking for deals right now. Add me to your list also. 

Post: 2nd Flip...Entire home remodeled. Successful outcome!

Richard Goore
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Couldn’t figure out how to post before and after pics. Just Google 4850 C St., Sacramento, CA if you want to see post rehab photos.