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All Forum Posts by: Roshan K.

Roshan K. has started 16 posts and replied 250 times.

Post: Appraisal coming in low, how to dispute?

Roshan K.
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  • Oklahoma City, OK
  • Posts 258
  • Votes 214
Originally posted by @Jesse Moran:

You would have to still do 20-25% of the loan anyways not the appraisal unless this is a REFI. In which case a BRRRR type strategy would be in place to pay cash and refi it back out after 6-12 months at 70-80% of the value of the home.

 See above comment

Post: Appraisal coming in low, how to dispute?

Roshan K.
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  • Oklahoma City, OK
  • Posts 258
  • Votes 214
Originally posted by @Wayne Brooks:

How is an appraisal $5k More than purchase causing issues? Your loan is based on your purchase price no matter how much higher your appraisal may be.
Typically appraisers will appraise at or just above contract price when it is worth more.

 The lender stated that they would do a 10% down loan. They said they could lend the lower of 90% by the purchase price or 85% of appraisal value. 85% of appraisal value is approx 4K less than 90% of purchase price, so now I have to make up the difference. 

That on top of the escrowed payment of 1 year of property taxes and insurance upfront (which was not disclosed to me, until I got a loan estimate) has also increased the down payment by $7,500. I was specifically told when I had the property under contract that all I would have to bring was 10% of purchase price and to estimate 3 to 4 k for closing costs.

I was prepared to put down 18 - 19K, but now closing costs are estimated at a little over 30K so I'm trying to reduce the downpayment by disputing the appraisal

Post: Appraisal coming in low, how to dispute?

Roshan K.
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  • Oklahoma City, OK
  • Posts 258
  • Votes 214
Originally posted by @Dennis M.:

Why do you assume that Its wrong?  why assume it’s worth what it was four years ago ? Sometimes real estate doesn’t appreciate sometimes it’s the opposite despite what people on here always say . you could find your own comps and try to make a case that it should be higher . Doesn’t look like you have much meat on the bone in this deal to even be a little risky 

 The house has not changed over the last 4 years and the area has appreciated, not depreciated. This appraiser is saying the property depreciated 36K since the last sale. 

Also, the house next door, which is in same condition, has less sq footage, smaller backyard sold 2 years ago for 183K. The interior is average as well, similar to mine. 

Post: What ozone generator do you have/recommend?

Roshan K.
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  • Oklahoma City, OK
  • Posts 258
  • Votes 214

Do you guys have a ozone generator that you have and recommend?

Post: Appraisal coming in low, how to dispute?

Roshan K.
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  • Oklahoma City, OK
  • Posts 258
  • Votes 214

Bump

Post: Appraisal coming in low, how to dispute?

Roshan K.
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  • Oklahoma City, OK
  • Posts 258
  • Votes 214

I have a house that's under contract. I'm buying it at $150,850 (motivated seller) and 4 years ago it sold for $187,500. It is in the same shape as before.

The appraisal came in at $155,000 and will cause me more than $5000 extra in downpayment that I was not prepared to pay. How can I dispute this?

Post: Is it stupid to have my name in my LLC?

Roshan K.
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  • Oklahoma City, OK
  • Posts 258
  • Votes 214
Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:
Originally posted by @Roshan K.:
Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:

@Brandon Handel part of the benefit of an LLC is one extra layer to mask the business from the owner. Let's say the tenant is renting from Brandon Handel LLC and you are dealing with them, signing documents Brandon Handel. It is pretty obvious you are the owner. It makes you more of a target. Let's say your company is named Oak Street LLC, then tenants could easily think you are just an employee. Any competent attorney could track down the owner of any LLC regardless of the name so it won't totally separate you from the business.

As far as piercing the veil, that happens if you are mixing personal and business. Name should really have nothing to do with it. 

Very often when people name a business after themselves it is for their own narcissistic reasons or due to lack of creativity. Personally I would pick the most generic names possible for your LLC. Your business can carry a different name than your LLC. For example you may be doing business as "Ideal Property Solutions" but your business manages five different LLC, Oak Street LLC, Sun Tower LLC, Johnson LLC, My House LLC and Road 1 LLC. Notice how all the names are very different, so it makes it even easier to keep separation between the individual properties.

LLC is for legal protection, not a marketing purposes. Pick LLC names that are very common and not related to your main business name. No reason to make it any easier than necessary for someone to trace all the businesses back to you.

This exactly. I don't want my tenants to know that I own. Everyone here on biggerpockets knows that you get crazy tenants. What if you have one that has an A/C break down and you get it fixed within a week, but they sue you because of the turmoil they were put under without a/c for a week. If they know you are the owner, and have a bunch of properties, they may think you are loaded and go after you. If they find some random LLC and don't have the means to figure out who owns the LLC, then they may reconsider. Plus, not being the owner allows for many benefits... one prime example is if a tenant asks to do something and you are not sure, you can just say you need to talk to the owner until you figure out what to do. It allows you a chance to buy time.

Especially in your profession, where you are facing the public. The last thing you need is crazy tenants lurking around your practice! I have a friend with rentals and he uses his personal name for business and lets tenants drop off rent at his $600K house. He had a crazy tenant that started driving by his house really slow. That is exactly why you never give tenants your name or address. Of course a resourceful tenant could find this information, but 99% have no idea where to look. The goal of any protection is to make it harder for people to find you. Nothing is fool proof, but why make it easier.

This same friend never locks his car doors. He said to me, "if they want to get in, they will find a way". I don't follow the logic. Of course someone could smash a window, but most people are lazy and will just look for the easy target. I am not an easy target.

I agree completely. There are people who can hire lawyers and all kinds of resources if they want to... but why make it too easy. If the barrier to getting it done is too high, most people will just give up. I prefer to be like you, if I'm going to be a target, I may as well be a hard one :)

Post: Is it stupid to have my name in my LLC?

Roshan K.
Posted
  • Oklahoma City, OK
  • Posts 258
  • Votes 214
Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:

@Brandon Handel part of the benefit of an LLC is one extra layer to mask the business from the owner. Let's say the tenant is renting from Brandon Handel LLC and you are dealing with them, signing documents Brandon Handel. It is pretty obvious you are the owner. It makes you more of a target. Let's say your company is named Oak Street LLC, then tenants could easily think you are just an employee. Any competent attorney could track down the owner of any LLC regardless of the name so it won't totally separate you from the business.

As far as piercing the veil, that happens if you are mixing personal and business. Name should really have nothing to do with it. 

Very often when people name a business after themselves it is for their own narcissistic reasons or due to lack of creativity. Personally I would pick the most generic names possible for your LLC. Your business can carry a different name than your LLC. For example you may be doing business as "Ideal Property Solutions" but your business manages five different LLC, Oak Street LLC, Sun Tower LLC, Johnson LLC, My House LLC and Road 1 LLC. Notice how all the names are very different, so it makes it even easier to keep separation between the individual properties.

LLC is for legal protection, not a marketing purposes. Pick LLC names that are very common and not related to your main business name. No reason to make it any easier than necessary for someone to trace all the businesses back to you.

This exactly. I don't want my tenants to know that I own. Everyone here on biggerpockets knows that you get crazy tenants. What if you have one that has an A/C break down and you get it fixed within a week, but they sue you because of the turmoil they were put under without a/c for a week. If they know you are the owner, and have a bunch of properties, they may think you are loaded and go after you. If they find some random LLC and don't have the means to figure out who owns the LLC, then they may reconsider. Plus, not being the owner allows for many benefits... one prime example is if a tenant asks to do something and you are not sure, you can just say you need to talk to the owner until you figure out what to do. It allows you a chance to buy time.

Post: I need your guys' unbiased feedback on my business name.

Roshan K.
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  • Oklahoma City, OK
  • Posts 258
  • Votes 214

I don't put my name on any of my 4 LLCs. I don't want anyone knowing I'm the owner. I'm just the property manager and when I give someone a late fee or the boot, I'm just following company policy :)

Post: Surgeon and RE investor

Roshan K.
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  • Oklahoma City, OK
  • Posts 258
  • Votes 214

I run my dental clinic and rentals actively. Right now I keep the extra money that would go to a PM to help me fund my next deal. Once I get busy with too many rentals (I'm thinking around 15-20 or so), I'll get a PM and focus solely on bringing in the dough as a dentist