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All Forum Posts by: Nick Doria

Nick Doria has started 16 posts and replied 218 times.

Post: Looking for the must haves when Creating Landlord policies.

Nick DoriaPosted
  • Real Estate Agent/Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 229
  • Votes 107

@Larissa Del mundo

Reading the book as well and it is great i was look for a more specific answer since each state is different with how section 8 is treated. thank you to every body from illinois that have shared there knowledge since that was good to know that i had the right thought process in mind just wanted to make sure that it would work in the real world. 

i have another question what kind of bookkeeping do you prefer to use and why? i keep hearing about quickbooks which i know is a little bit of work to learn and get set up for real estate. do most of people use it just because a cpa or a bookkeeper recommended  to use it? 

Post: Looking for the must haves when Creating Landlord policies.

Nick DoriaPosted
  • Real Estate Agent/Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 229
  • Votes 107
John Warren I know I can't discriminate against section 8. I just want to make sure that when they apply and don't qualify that when they get turned down they don't feel like they have. because I have read and heard of a lot of stories where nothing was done wrong but things got twisted around. Just trying to make sure I CYA

Post: New member from Indiana

Nick DoriaPosted
  • Real Estate Agent/Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 229
  • Votes 107

@Anthony Patrizi

Really so did i small world i grew up in Glenwood, IL then moved to Crown Point, Indiana 

Post: Looking for the must haves when Creating Landlord policies.

Nick DoriaPosted
  • Real Estate Agent/Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 229
  • Votes 107

@Ronan M.

after leasing for two years i'm very firm on my possible clients because while i do want to look out the best interest of the person calling about the rental i also want to be able to continue doing business with the landlord. the things that you find out about people and what they tell you just by listening to them is amazing haha 

Post: Looking for the must haves when Creating Landlord policies.

Nick DoriaPosted
  • Real Estate Agent/Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 229
  • Votes 107

@Ronan M.

That sounds pretty consistent with what i have been hearing others say i guess the best way would be to as a real estate attorney and to ask review the landlord-tenant act for illinois to be 100 percent sure. when i find out i will share with everybody what i found. 

Post: Looking for the must haves when Creating Landlord policies.

Nick DoriaPosted
  • Real Estate Agent/Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 229
  • Votes 107

@Jonathan Pliszka

The areas of the city that i'm looking into are in the northwest side of the city so: albany park,Jefferson Park, Portage Park, Edgewater(if a good deal comes along lived there before and i love it there would like in this building if i had one there), and Rogers Park.

You read my mind with your reply on section 8 since i didn't believe you could be forced to comply with section 8 housing standards but with it being such a sensitive subject i want to have a very solid policy on this. 

i am in favor of doing a move in fee over a deposit for the specific reason that you brought up deposits cause so many problems when it's time to give them back and people tend to like move in fees since it's easier for them to move into a place since it's normally never more than say like $500 or $600. with your pet fee do you charge a monthly rent amount as well ?

Post: Looking for the must haves when Creating Landlord policies.

Nick DoriaPosted
  • Real Estate Agent/Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 229
  • Votes 107

@Elizabeth Colegrove

that was what i was thinking sadly "common sense isn't so common anymore" i have learned that after hearing some of the craziest things from people wanting help to find an apartment. 

Post: Looking for the must haves when Creating Landlord policies.

Nick DoriaPosted
  • Real Estate Agent/Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 229
  • Votes 107

@Dana Dunford it's been great connecting with you and thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge 

Post: Looking for the must haves when Creating Landlord policies.

Nick DoriaPosted
  • Real Estate Agent/Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 229
  • Votes 107

@Joe Splitrock 

Thank you for sharing your knowledge. This is a monster of a response since i wanted to be able explain the thought process i have a little clearer after you asking how i came up with my numbers so thank you again for making get more detailed in my plan or at least to have it typed up. 

1.) Section 8 in illinois can get a lot of people in trouble since there are pros and cons to working with section 8. major gray area here in what counts as discrimination towards them since they are a protected class in illinois and if i went out and said no section 8 or told all section 8 people i don't accept them i would be sued. 

2.) I personally feel that $50 is to high for the checks since i know they only cost about $35 to run both and just seems like a ripoff to make money off of a cost of doing business. so i'm going to just charge what the cost of running the checks.

3.) allowing pets i agree with charging an extra pet rent but what would be a fair rent increase for that?  places in chicago sometime raise the rent by $50 up $100 a month which sounds like robbery to me. 

4.) I agree with modifying an existing lease from somebody who has one already to match what i want to be included as i am sure it will save a lot of time and money when using a real estate attorney starting with a base lease. 

5.) Thank you for sharing a personal lesson you have learned. while i do have aggressive number in terms of units and the time frame to do it, the real heavy lifting won't happen until about year 4 or 5 and then up from there. plus the first building ill have will be 4 units but i will live in one so will only have to take care of 3 units. 

Some Disclaimers:

1.) I'll have my real estate license( should be taking the test in two weeks from now) so that will save me 3% when i sell greatly helping my ability to invest faster with that money saved.

2.) Have been leasing apartments for the last two years in chicago so i have a really good understanding of what apartments will rent for and how to make sure they get rented.

3.) While i may have only worked at a property management company for about 6 months i'm a very fast learner and picked up a ton of things while i was there.

4.) Studying how to run a buisness for about 4 years now and have been applying it the last two years doing real estate full time this has been the most educating time of my entire life because if i don't produce results i don't eat. While i have been going to school for business admin for a little over a year and will be done in about 16 weeks with an associate's degree the only real thing i have gained was a better understanding of how accounting works since i have 6 months straight of account classes.

5.) Ridiculous attention to details when it comes to planning, now if only my grammar was that why haha.   

I got such a large number for the number of rental units because,  while there is nothing wrong with saying my goal is to have 75,100,150,200 etc..... it's still a very small number which doesn't make me want to get up in the morning to make it happen and it makes me feel like oh i have all this time to get 200 units in 13 years. The bigger goals require you to think smarter, think more accurately, and build systems that can automate your business wherever possible to be able to reach them.

If you plan right i don't see why can't anybody do this within 5-7 years by trading up to bigger properties using a 1031 exchange.  

So while 1000 units is really high even if i were only hit half of that number i wouldn't be upset with 500 but i will be with only like 25-100 units in that time frame. why think small when you can think big and even if you miss will still be way better off working towards the larger goal. Small dreams/goals have no magic.

I do have it broken down year by year of how many units to acquire while the first 3-4 years maybe slow in terms of number of unit it will increase much faster once i can get things set up to basically fire myself from day to day tasks that take up so much time and just focus on finding deals, forced appreciation to increase overall value and equity in the building preparing a build to refinancing it, and trading up when the time is right to move on to a bigger property.  

For example: 

Year 1 : one 4 unit building possibly two (both will be creative financing deals) depending on when and how well i get the first one all set up, live in one to reduce living expenses, create a effective management plan that will serve as the foundation for all my other building in the future( working on right now as we speak mostly all theory i'm putting together now because i know the real learning wont start until after i become a landlord), build up my real estate team (which i have gotten a great head start on this year already and have a couple of them in place already) 

After year 1: 4-8 units 

Year 2: Continue to improve my landlord business and start to see where i can start to remove some time consuming tasks. Look into how i can increase rents by providing better services and amenities. Use my VA loan to find another 4 unit building and live in that new building and repeat the improvement process over the next two years.

after year 2: 8-12 units 

Year 3: refinance on the two seller financing deals and pull out equity that i have built into them, if this doesn't work then i will trade up using a 1031 exchange to one bigger building the unit amount will depend on the sales price of the two buildings. 

after year 3: 20-40 units 

The number goal i have is $100,000 rental income a month. the prices for apartments in chicago are pretty high so i very well could reach the money amount before the number of units. 

Post: Looking for the must haves when Creating Landlord policies.

Nick DoriaPosted
  • Real Estate Agent/Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 229
  • Votes 107

Working on creating my policies for becoming a landlord in Chicago, IL before i buy my first building because of the highly ambitious goal of having 1000 rental units by the time I'm 40 (which will be in 13 years from now) i understand the fact that i will need to have multiple systems and processes in place to be able to expand at this level.  I have been reading Brandon Turner's book on managing rental properties to help me gain some insights to what are the bread and butter things i should have in my policies. 

I have some questions that i would like to see how they would directly apply to the chicago market: 

1.) How do you deal with section 8 tenants-  If you don't accept them when they apply what's your method as a protected class i would want to avoid any possible discrimination but i also don't want any unqualified tenant that won't meet the minimum requirements set for approval. 

2.) Would $50 per screening of background and credit checks? I have seen some higher and lower charges as an leasing agent in the city but i want to be reasonable. 

3.) Accepting pets- do you charge just a deposit or do you also charge pet rent as well? what have been your experiences pros and cons of allowing pets? If you don't allow pets could you give some insight on why?

4.) Creating a lease- i will be working with a real estate attorney but what are some things that you wish you would have had in your looking back after being in the business for a while? 

5.) Things that you wish you would have known when first starting off as a landlord that would have saved you a lot of money and time? 

Thank you all for taking the time to read this and looking forward to hearing from everybody.