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All Forum Posts by: Nicholas Misch

Nicholas Misch has started 8 posts and replied 292 times.

Post: Accredited Investor?? WHY!!

Nicholas Misch
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  • Cleveland, OH
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Quote from @Brock Mogensen:

I agree that the rule is pretty absurd.  But there are plenty of syndication offerings out there that allow for unaccredited investors as well.


 I have yet to see one. Please give me details if you come across one. 

Post: So who is still buying rentals there .

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  • Cleveland, OH
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Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Nicholas Misch:

I am currently doing a SF BRRRR and It looks like we will be getting between an 15-18% return. Not a smash, but better then most other investment vehicles.


 Hi, you mean your cash on cash after refi right ? I would find it hard to believe you are getting 15- 18% NET caps on all cash purchases. But then again I see your from there, so maybe you are just like I am :)  All mine are not less then 20% net caps. 


LOL, yes good catch. I meant 15% CoC and since we decided to turn this one into an Airbnb, after the separate set up costs the return can be indefinite.

Post: Accredited Investor?? WHY!!

Nicholas Misch
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  • Cleveland, OH
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Quote from @Kevin Sobilo:
Quote from @Nicholas Misch:

DUMBEST "protection" ever! This one really fires me up! So I can go drop $100k+ cash for a car right this very moment, but I can't invest it in certain products (often with the best terms) because I'm just a dummy and have to be protected. If I had the very rare fortitude to save $100k (only 15% of Americans have $100k or more in savings) then I should be able to invest it any way I see fit. This is nothing other then financial discrimination. Sorry, rant over. 

 

@Nicholas Misch, In principle I agree with you. However someone who buys a $100k car in cash almost certainly can buy these investments. So, a $30k car is a more appropriate example.

Also, lets be fair. These aren't products with "the best terms". They are products with the higher risk with more potential reward AND where the minimum investment is substantial for someone of modest means.

Before the regulations go away we need to do away with social welfare programs in my opinion. Then people can start to be responsible for themselves more. 

I guess that fact that you changed the example from a $100k car to a $30k car does not change my perspective that its MY money my choice and not the governments business. Also what you and I consider the "best terms" is relative. I consider high risk high reward the best terms for me. 

We can agree on the need for removal of some "social welfare" programs, however I hardly think it should have anything to do with my ability to put my hard earned and saved money where ever I darn well please. 

Post: So who is still buying rentals there .

Nicholas Misch
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I am currently doing a SF BRRRR and It looks like we will be getting between an 15-18% return. Not a smash, but better then most other investment vehicles.

Post: What are my options?

Nicholas Misch
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Quote from @Scott E.:

Sounds like you can still get this place for under market value. If I were you I'd try to wholesale it.


 Also a great option! :)

Post: What are my options?

Nicholas Misch
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Quote from @Brandon Becsi:

Morning, I have a seller that wants more for a property that I am willing to pay, the house is paid off and what to see what other options I may have to turn this profitable.

1-buy it on terms/seller financing...what would this look like?

2-give the referral to a real estate agent that can list it...what kind of referral/finders fee should I get? 

I think seller financing would be the best option here if you can work out a deal. As far as a referral fee from a Realtor, I am not sure of the rules in VA, however in Ohio a licensed real estate agent can't pay anyone not licensed a referral fee. You can however do it for the relationship building and work out a referral partnership where you share referrals. That can be a much more profitable relationship in the long run than a one time referral fee. Best of luck on your decision. 

Post: My appraiser gave details to the seller

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Quote from @Brent Huling:

Maybe I didn't explain myself well enough. The ARV did not come in, so I asked the sellers to come down $50k in price. They were considering it. The seller and their agent called the appraiser and he gave them the details, costing me potentially $50k in price I might have not had to pay. That is the frustrating part. There is no deceit here or intent to fraud. I did not want to pay $50k more out of pocket to make the deal work. Whether I could get out of the contract or not at this juncture is not the point. The fact that the appraiser gave them the details, that lost all of my leverage and ability to negotiate with the seller. I also believe they would have taken $5k to walk away, but once they knew the appraised value, their tone quickly changed. Is there not a confidentiality responsibility from the appraiser? According to USPAP, there is.

This sucks and in my opinion it was not the appraisers place to share YOUR appraisal, however I unfortunately do not see much recourse for you, or much that will change with the sellers current stance. If you feel the appraiser was in violation of some rule or ethic, reporting them would be the only thing you could do. I wish you the best outcome in this situation. 

Post: Accredited Investor?? WHY!!

Nicholas Misch
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Quote from @Alex Talcott:

It does seem to be a it-takes-money-to-make-money / haves-and-have-nots reinforcing cards-stacked-against kind of thing.

One public policy reason is the pernicious historical prejudice of literacy tests for voting rights. It's a very imperfect alternative, with the objective of consumer protection.


 EXACTLY!

Post: Accredited Investor?? WHY!!

Nicholas Misch
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  • Cleveland, OH
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DUMBEST "protection" ever! This one really fires me up! So I can go drop $100k+ cash for a car right this very moment, but I can't invest it in certain products (often with the best terms) because I'm just a dummy and have to be protected. If I had the very rare fortitude to save $100k (only 15% of Americans have $100k or more in savings) then I should be able to invest it any way I see fit. This is nothing other then financial discrimination. Sorry, rant over. 

Post: Priced out of Chicago market, so where do I go?

Nicholas Misch
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  • Cleveland, OH
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Build your core 4, the first being a very well investment versed Realtor, and a good property management company. They know the ins and outs of the city the serve better then anyone else. Cleveland is one of the best places for the "best bang for the buck" as they say. Best investing wherever you decide!