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All Forum Posts by: Nate Sanow

Nate Sanow has started 20 posts and replied 1459 times.

Post: Long-time Follower, First-Time Poster

Nate Sanow
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Hey Jack! Welcome to the party. I know the feeling of having a wife who doesn't want to discuss REI until "you are blue in the face" Haha. It's cool that its your passion, passion will carry you forward.

Post: Moving to Tulsa | Looking to Connect

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Welcome to Tulsa man! I’d love to show you around one day. I’ve got a few projects going if interested in checking them out and some friends doing brrrrs, flips, etc. There’s also been a few of the meetups having a resurgence lately too. Next Friday there’s a breakfast I believe and then there’s some monthly happy hours kicking off again. 

Post: Is BRRRR really a good strategy?

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It’s an interesting debate for so many reasons. One is if you hold you get excited about “equity” and “appreciation “ which… only really mean anything if you plan to sell. (Yes, I know you can refi but usually not right away). So that’s ironic. A lot of “buy and hold” people don’t actually hold for forever, and the ones I’ve known who sell off their portfolio they are more excited about that $100k per door then $200 per month. 

But man that ROI on a 0% out of pocket via true brrrr is crazy…. Personally I plan to do some of both.

Post: First Live-In Flip Complete! How did it turn out?

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Good stuff. It’s nice to see a non-duplex / four plex house hack again. They are hard to find in my market, and not as practical as a live in flip. I’m on the fence about selling what we live in, in the same sort of way. 

Post: How does one actually “start”?

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For starters: good job. You seem to be doing right by your kids, working hard to provide, and that is commendable. 

I think there's a balance to find between "going for it" and taking your time. It seems like YOU aren't sure which one you really WANT. I don't think your personal finances have to be perfect. But they need to not feel paralyzing. Investing is not pure ROI, it can so often be full of loss and step backs. YouTube and Instagram and even a quick highlight from the BP podcasts can show the best parts and not the parts where contractors run off with money or crack heads break into your "investment " property that is now a loss…

I’m not at all discouraging pulling a trigger but I am saying, take your time , take a breath, you’ve got this, it will work out soon. Get some reserves. 6 months for personal and another 6 for business. Then consider an acquisition. Also, look for a partner. I have heard good things about the “InvestHer” meetups and maybe there’s another woman in your area who wants to do a flip with you. Or a rental etc. (I’m not saying you can’t partner with a man, but just a thought given the divorce, and I know a few ladies local to me killing it in those groups). Partnerships are not as rewarding as solo adventures but they are also not as risky. Find the right one and you don’t need to bring money or credit to the table.

Good luck. 





Post: Becoming Top Real Estate Investor Friendly Agent in Local Market

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He makes good points as many agents are guilty of saying "that will make a GREAT investment!!" … on EVERY house they see. So, for starters, don't be that agent. Reserve the right to say to people what is a bad investment. In my area I actually advise against A class SFH as their are so few people who earn enough to pay premium rents , defined locally as excess of $2000 per mo… and those who do earn that much will much rather own a house. So that's just an example. Of course, the goal is not negativity it is simply being able to articulate the contrast. This will allow you to point to what is actually a "good" investment, likely defined by numbers. Become a good numbers guy for sure.

Also. Walk as many properties as possible. Become so familiar with the common problems in certain areas. For example we have pockets in our region that are notoriously bad for foundation issues, often due to being near rivers and more of a flat plain type terrain that allows water to pool and further cause settling issues in our already too moldable clay like soil. I know this not from the internet, but from having walked literally 100’s of properties in that area and having met with many foundation repair companies, engineers, and home inspectors on these sites. 
For you, maybe there’s an area near a forest full of termites… I’m making that up of course but I’m saying become an expert not just on the good, because that’s the salesy stuff that comes a dime a dozen. Be an expert on the bad so as to be honest and pragmatic and you stand out. 

Lastly, the thing that will by far and large separate you the most is being an investor yourself. Caution: if you’re a deal finder for others don’t be surprised if they don’t want to hear about every acquisition you make... Having said that, you do want to own at least a few investments assuming you don’t already. If you don’t, I’d take time to partner with someone even if your cut is only 5% or 10% I’d do whatever it took as there’s nothing better than literally putting your money where your mouth is. 

Hopefully this helps. 1/2 my business is investor related it’s a good niche. I choose to diversify because investors can also be treacherously not loyal. So be warned of that. Many do not care about exclusivity with you, and it’s why I’d urge you to gain your own investments as well, as with any job the goal eventually is freedom. Being an agent is a good step towards that but is not actually passive or an automatic license to invest. Good luck and feel free to reach out if I can help. 

Post: New Buy and Hold in Kansas City MO

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Wow, great CF. Good stuff.

Post: Looking for a Real Estate Investing Coach

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Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Sharlana Anthony

References - no one

Real estate coaches are typically awful ideas as you will pay someone to tell you what you can find on YouTube and BP but what’s worse is their opinion may be an awful one.

You want to learn from many people not one person.


 Really good point. Not to mention, some people mistake paying a mentor for “starting out in real estate”…. As if it’s an accomplishment. It certainly is, for the mentor who cashed your check, assuming he / she is the guru type. 

Post: 20,000 posts . . . and at least 17 of them were useful.

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I started to read this and freak out a little if you were going to retire!!! It sounded like Jordan going out after 6 rings, haha. Okay, but really. I’m glad you contribute to this platform. I also appreciate the integrity and purity in providing advice irregardless of obtaining business from it.

I hope many take note.   Thank you for your contributions.

Post: Reason for Optimism/ Leverage the buying opportunity

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Good points made. We are seeing some asking prices down, but year over year, closed prices still up, just not as much of a rate of increase. More seller incentives such as helping buyers pay down their rate. Buyers can still be rejected if offers are too low, sellers not totally at their mercy but willing to collaborate… which actually is really nice. The extreme sellers market is gone, but to your point will it come back? I’m afraid so, if rates are low again. Inventory issues > interest rates.