All Forum Posts by: Nate Marshall

 John

I will comment only on your actions- but why you filing complaints with FINRA. FINRA oversee broker-dealers and I do not believe any sponsor is a broker dealer. 

If you want to go after the sponsor, you can file claims with the state banking finance and regulation or the SEC (Good luck). But FINRA would have no jurisdiction in a bad syndication unless you used a broker dealer who misled you and your claim is against the BD not the sponsor. 

I am discouraged to see one LP (Googled his name and keyword "lawsuit," see below) actively still advertising here.  I have communicated with other investors, providing evidence of wrongdoing to FINRA, as well as several lawyers.  I'd advise folks avoid them at all costs.  It would be a wonderful gift from the site moderators to have their advertising and "expert advice" content removed from here as well, but that's above my pay grade.

https://trellis.law/case/36061/653431-2024/electra-capital-p...

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I am interested in signing up for the Pace Morby's Subto program, anyone to help me with the discount code? 

If you have to borrow money to do "no money down" investing, (which it really isn't 
"no money down" investing, don't you think you are headed to trouble?

By the way, doing things Morby's way will get you into trouble even if you have money. The reason you need money for Morby's "no money down" investing is to hire an attorney to explain to the state why you broke the law. You will need representation. Be smart, talk to an attorney first, tell them what you want to do and let them tell you if it's legal. It's a lot cheaper than after the fact.

 Hi Ken,

Thank you for your response and advice. Sorry, but I don't quite understand what you mean. I wanted to sign up for the program mainly for networking purpose. Getting to meet experienced people whom I can learn from. So, I need more clarification and clear direction regarding that.

Best,

Ignatius.

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Learning to do things the wrong way is still learning to do things, I guess.

Here is someone doing the things Morby teaches, the way Morby teaches

https://www.azag.gov/sites/default/files/2025-03/CV2025-008402%20State%20of%20Arizona%20v.%20Cameron%20Jones%20et%20al%20FILED%20%281%29.pdf

 @Ken M. to be clear Cameron Jones is NOT in the paid Subto community. Please stop spreading lies. It's fine if you don't like Pace Morby or what he does/teaches but let's stick to the truth.

Pace does NOT teach anyone to defraud homeowners. His legal documents have been drafted by his own attorney who clearly would not create invalid, unenforceable contracts. 

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Quote from @Ken M.:

Quote from @Ignatius Okeke:

I am interested in signing up for the Pace Morby's Subto program, anyone to help me with the discount code? 

If you have to borrow money to do "no money down" investing, (which it really isn't 
"no money down" investing, don't you think you are headed to trouble?

By the way, doing things Morby's way will get you into trouble even if you have money. The reason you need money for Morby's "no money down" investing is to hire an attorney to explain to the state why you broke the law. You will need representation. Be smart, talk to an attorney first, tell them what you want to do and let them tell you if it's legal. It's a lot cheaper than after the fact.

 Hi Ken,

Thank you for your response and advice. Sorry, but I don't quite understand what you mean. I wanted to sign up for the program mainly for networking purpose. Getting to meet experienced people whom I can learn from. So, I need more clarification and clear direction regarding that.

Best,

Ignatius.

.

Learning to do things the wrong way is still learning to do things, I guess.

Here is someone doing the things Morby teaches, the way Morby teaches

https://www.azag.gov/sites/default/files/2025-03/CV2025-008402%20State%20of%20Arizona%20v.%20Cameron%20Jones%20et%20al%20FILED%20%281%29.pdf

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Your comment "@Ken M. to be clear Cameron Jones is NOT in the paid Subto community. Please stop spreading lies. It's fine if you don't like Pace Morby or what he does/teaches but let's stick to the truth. - 

(So, it doesn't really matter the name or the association, if they are doing things the way Morby advocates, he is headed for trouble. But, you've piqued my interest, where did I say "Cameron Jones IS in the paid Subto community" and why are you so defensive about that?)

Pace does NOT teach anyone to defraud homeowners. His legal documents have been drafted by his own attorney who clearly would not create invalid, unenforceable contracts."

Actually I have watched some of Morby's videos and you should be advised to be very careful about associating with him.

https://www.azag.gov/sites/default/files/2025-03/CV2025-008402%20State%20of%20Arizona%20v.%20Cameron%20Jones%20et%20al%20FILED%20%281%29.pdf

It would serve you well to actually READ the complaint and see if any of these "techniques" can be found in the videos and groups he runs and the concepts he teaches.

By the way, these characters had "very carefully crafted agreements and contracts by their attorneys" who clearly would not create invalid, unenforceable contracts." as well. The attorneys have been included in the lawsuit. Imagine that!

Anyway, since this doesn't alarm you, I would strongly suggest you set aside about $25,000 for legal fees, in case you are wrong.

For you lurkers, take the advice of someone who has been around the block for 30 years. Rather than take a novice's word for it, ask what went wrong and avoid doing those things. ;-)

Your comment: "I would never participate in any community that teaches people how to commit fraud or any other type of crimes."

Ouch! You Hurt My head!! I just gave you a prime example. Backed up by statute.

Your Comment:"his program is worth every dime....IF you put in the work to find deals. The community Pace has built is amazing. There are 'daily dials' that are hosted by some of the group leaders and you practice cold calling under different scenarios (seller who has no pain, seller wants too much down, seller says they're too old to do owner finance/refi, etc).

There are daily Zooms on a variety of topics as wells just Q & A where Pace will answer any questions you have on anything you might be working on, etc. He's brought on his own attorney, another business owner who ensures if the 'due on sale' clause is triggered when buying subto that he takes care of all the paperwork with the bank and title if needed, etc.

The knowledge sharing is like no other."

Your Comment: "If you do decide to join, you can put my name and my email for $400 off the cost of the membership."

This actually makes you a co-conspirator.

Wow!
No, Double WOW!!

Okay, I do give up. Have fun. 

PEOPLE WHO READ THIS, DO NOT TAKE ADVICE FROM THIS WOMAN! OR YOU WILL SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES.

Now, she is probably a nice person, but being a nice person doesn't help you when you break the law and ignore the warnings beforehand.  

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Quote from @Ken M.:

Quote from @Ignatius Okeke:

Quote from @Ken M.:

Quote from @Ignatius Okeke:

I am interested in signing up for the Pace Morby's Subto program, anyone to help me with the discount code? 

If you have to borrow money to do "no money down" investing, (which it really isn't 
"no money down" investing, don't you think you are headed to trouble?

By the way, doing things Morby's way will get you into trouble even if you have money. The reason you need money for Morby's "no money down" investing is to hire an attorney to explain to the state why you broke the law. You will need representation. Be smart, talk to an attorney first, tell them what you want to do and let them tell you if it's legal. It's a lot cheaper than after the fact.

 Hi Ken,

Thank you for your response and advice. Sorry, but I don't quite understand what you mean. I wanted to sign up for the program mainly for networking purpose. Getting to meet experienced people whom I can learn from. So, I need more clarification and clear direction regarding that.

Best,

Ignatius.

.

Learning to do things the wrong way is still learning to do things, I guess.

Here is someone doing the things Morby teaches, the way Morby teaches

https://www.azag.gov/sites/default/files/2025-03/CV2025-008402%20State%20of%20Arizona%20v.%20Cameron%20Jones%20et%20al%20FILED%20%281%29.pdf

.

Your comment "@Ken M. to be clear Cameron Jones is NOT in the paid Subto community. Please stop spreading lies. It's fine if you don't like Pace Morby or what he does/teaches but let's stick to the truth. - 

(So, it doesn't really matter the name or the association, if they are doing things the way Morby advocates, he is headed for trouble. But, you've piqued my interest, where did I say "Cameron Jones IS in the paid Subto community" and why are you so defensive about that?)

Pace does NOT teach anyone to defraud homeowners. His legal documents have been drafted by his own attorney who clearly would not create invalid, unenforceable contracts."

Actually I have watched some of Morby's videos and you should be advised to be very careful about associating with him.

https://www.azag.gov/sites/default/files/2025-03/CV2025-008402%20State%20of%20Arizona%20v.%20Cameron%20Jones%20et%20al%20FILED%20%281%29.pdf

It would serve you well to actually READ the complaint and see if any of these "techniques" can be found in the videos and groups he runs and the concepts he teaches.

By the way, these characters had "very carefully crafted agreements and contracts by their attorneys" who clearly would not create invalid, unenforceable contracts." as well. The attorneys have been included in the lawsuit. Imagine that!

Anyway, since this doesn't alarm you, I would strongly suggest you set aside about $25,000 for legal fees, in case you are wrong.

For you lurkers, take the advice of someone who has been around the block for 30 years. Rather than take a novice's word for it, ask what went wrong and avoid doing those things. ;-)

Quote from @Ken M.:

Quote from @Ignatius Okeke:

Quote from @Ken M.:

Quote from @Ignatius Okeke:

I am interested in signing up for the Pace Morby's Subto program, anyone to help me with the discount code? 

If you have to borrow money to do "no money down" investing, (which it really isn't 
"no money down" investing, don't you think you are headed to trouble?

By the way, doing things Morby's way will get you into trouble even if you have money. The reason you need money for Morby's "no money down" investing is to hire an attorney to explain to the state why you broke the law. You will need representation. Be smart, talk to an attorney first, tell them what you want to do and let them tell you if it's legal. It's a lot cheaper than after the fact.

 Hi Ken,

Thank you for your response and advice. Sorry, but I don't quite understand what you mean. I wanted to sign up for the program mainly for networking purpose. Getting to meet experienced people whom I can learn from. So, I need more clarification and clear direction regarding that.

Best,

Ignatius.

.

Learning to do things the wrong way is still learning to do things, I guess.

Here is someone doing the things Morby teaches, the way Morby teaches

https://www.azag.gov/sites/default/files/2025-03/CV2025-008402%20State%20of%20Arizona%20v.%20Cameron%20Jones%20et%20al%20FILED%20%281%29.pdf

 @Ken M. to be clear Cameron Jones is NOT in the paid Subto community. Please stop spreading lies. It's fine if you don't like Pace Morby or what he does/teaches but let's stick to the truth.

Pace does NOT teach anyone to defraud homeowners. His legal documents have been drafted by his own attorney who clearly would not create invalid, unenforceable contracts.