I read the whole thread, uh...
I'm exhausted.
I attended @Phillip Grove's seminar this weekend, well yesterday. I was really impressed. The seminar is for the beginner investor and it was comprehensive, dynamic, and highly informative. He did an excellent job combining educational and motivational material. I have gone to many meetings, seminars, and classes thus far. This is the first event that captured my attention. I did not miss a minute of the event. I was rushing to be there on time, and stayed the whole time. I took over 30pages of notes. I feel ready to move on to the next step in my REI journey.
Compared to other events I have atended. The room was still packed to the end considering the fact that it was a sun evening.
We have beat this horse enough, but... my 2 cents...
If you are going to judge the man, judge him accurately. Even if his events are bait an switch, still does not take aways from the fact that the information was really good. When you have newbie investors, you don't want to overwhelm them with a $50000 on the first day. You introduce things to them slowly and build on that.
Honestly, we have bait and switch on this site too. I 'm constently being asked to upgrade to pro. Small $ same tactics. So you are all using same tricks! But still the benefits are really worth it!!!!
I was there yesterday, and not one member of his team forced me to sign up for anything. I was given the information, and as an "adult" I had the choice to decide if I was to say yes or no.
If you don't want to sign up for the training, say NO!
Don't come here and complain and degrade a man's reputation, because he does not operate the way you do.
Also just because most people on this site can "do it themselves" does not mean that everyone else can. Judge @Phillip Grove for the substance of his seminar or training, not your own biased on "Gurus" who charge money.
Message to anyone who may be interested in working the Groves. I attend 4 REI clubs regularly (I have been for the past 2 and 1/2 months). The Groves meetings are the most comprehensive: you get motivation, quality information, and a lot of people to network with seasoned and newbie investors.
I'm looking forward to leanring from everyone on this site. I just hope we can be fair.