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All Forum Posts by: Nadir M.

Nadir M. has started 64 posts and replied 437 times.

Quote from @Beth Bannor:

Hi @Nadir M.,

I have a couple of recommendations regarding your website:

1- You might consider taking screenshots of your google reviews, adding those to your testimonials page, and linking back out to those reviews. They are all 5-stars which is great and should be highlighted.

2- Also consider adding 1 or 2 of these reviews to your other pages so your website visitors see testimonials throughout your website.

3- I recommend getting as many reviews as you can. When I do a search for "property management companies denver", the top 3 companies that come up in the google map pack have 703, 882, and 218 reviews. 

4- Have you considered adding an intro video to your website? Having a youtube channel where you talk about your services, how you help people, customer testimonials, and answer common questions helps with seo. Youtube is owned by google and is the 2nd largest search engine. Maybe you already have a youtube channel? I didn't see one linked up on your website.

5- Do some competitive research on property management companies in your area that are coming up on the 1st page of google. What are they doing well? What are they missing? What can you do better?

I hope this helps. Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you so much for this detailed response. Part of me does feel, with the amount of visitors I have to my site, and the fact I have a 0% contact or leads tells me that my site can use some one. They’re finding me but they’re not interested. In order to get reviews, I need clients…and lead gen and conversion is what I’m struggling with.  
Quote from @Drew Sygit:

5 units isn't enough to justify paying for PMC software.

Check out all the free options.

Agreed 
Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @Nadir M.:

Nadir, ask ten people and you may get ten different answers. Software can be very subjective. What works best for me with 400 units may not work well for you with 100. Here's some generic guidance.

Software is a common question on BiggerPockets. Here are some things to consider:

  1. Most investors don't need software until they have 5-10 rentals. You only need a place to track tenant information, payment history, maintenance, etc. You can easily do this on a spreadsheet, and it will take less time to track than finding and learning new software. If the software is not simplifying your life or making you more accurate, you shouldn't use it. Go to Etsy and search for "rental property tracker," and you will find hundreds of nice spreadsheets to track 10-20 rentals, usually for under $10.
  2. Software has extremely helpful features like online payments, marketing syndication (click a button, and your property is advertised on multiple sites), electronic document review/signing, maintenance tracking, and owner reports. Do you need all this for a couple of rentals?
  3. There is no perfect software out there. Every system you try will have flaws, or you may salivate over a feature that appears in other software.

Some familiar names are mentioned frequently: Stessa, Apartments.com, RentRedi, TenantCloud, Innago, RentManager, Avail, Rentec Direct, Doorloop, etc.

I recommend conducting thorough research on each app online to understand their offerings, pricing, etc. Create a simple spreadsheet or written list to compare the features of each and identify the ones that align with your requirements. Try to narrow down your options to the top 3-4. Once you have a shortlist, sign up for an account with each one and test them extensively to see how they function. Perform the same task in each app to ensure a fair comparison.

  • Load a property with pictures and details.
  • Market that property.
  • See what your marketing looks like from the public's perspective.
  • Submit a fake application to see how easy the process is.
  • Run a credit/screening report on yourself.
  • Enter a maintenance request, assign a vendor, and attach a fake invoice.
  • Enter charges to the tenant's ledger.
  • Enter recurring charges and automatic late fees.
  • Sign documents electronically.
  • Run owner reports.

After testing a few apps, one should clearly stand out. It's important to choose that one and commit to using it. Remember, no system is perfect, so avoid the temptation of constantly chasing after the next shiny object. You should only consider switching when your current software has a significant flaw or lacks features that force you to spend excessive time on workarounds. At that point, it's worth researching and finding a solution that better meets your needs.


 Thank you for the detailed response Nathan. I totally agree, I’m currently using a free software and it does what I need it to. I’m also currently looking to upgrade to a software that allows me to transfer friends from PM to owner and will help me generate form 1099at the end of the year. Buildium seems to have all that. At my level of properties, I don’t think the price per month justifies joining Buildium

Quote from @Drew Sygit:

How many units?


 5 of my own. No PM units yet. 

Thank you for the detailed response Nathan. I totally agree, I’m currently using a free software and it does what I need it to. I’m also currently looking to upgrade to a software that allows me to transfer friends from PM to owner and will help me generate form 1099at the end of the year. Buildium seems to have all that. At my level of properties, I don’t think the price per month justifies joining Buildium. 

Hello BP,

Wanted to reach out to get some opinions regarding Property Management Software that's recommended based on personal experiences. Currently, I use Apartments.com. Apartments.com is free to use and great if you have a small portfolio. I heard Buildium is great and I used their search engine for lead gen. I also know that BP hosted the RentRedi CEO on their podcast I believe, so that's another software i'm looking into.  I guess i'm looking for software that separates tenants, from PM, from owner well. 

ALso, what's the best way to track monthly expenses between owner and PM and how is that separated from tenants vs PM. Just want a software that does a great job handling the overall operations smoothly, a one-stop-shop for all PM needs. 

Thank you,  

Quote from @Calvin Thomas:
Quote from @Nadir M.:

Hello BP community, 

I'm currently in the process of starting a Property Management Company and looking for the best way to increase my leads/clients. 

Besides word-of-mouth, what are some of the best strategies that have worked for those who have scaled their business. 

I know BP just came out with their new platform that allows you to buy leads but my area has been sold out. I also use All Property Management but have yet to have too much luck. 

Any help would be greatly appreciated


Thank you, 


 First things first, do you have a broker's license?  Do you have the proper insurance?  Next, what makes you different then Grace Property Management?

Are you an investor? Do you own rental property? Why are you starting the property management business?  Are you a solo shop or a company with employees?

First, establish an online presence and join local groups and orgs to get your name out. Build slow and go from there. If you can solve a problem, that no on else has done yet, then go for it. However, property management is not easy. It's dealing with people; usually upset people, and managing a lot of things at once. We do it for our own properties, and the burn out for a new PM without PM experience is huge.

Prob. stay from online property management platforms. Not sure you will yield much success going through that route. I know a few people who are realtors in real life from BP and had a horrid experience with the BP lead engine.  It appears to be pricey and may not lead to the success you are looking for. Just trying to save you some time and money.


 Thank you for your input Calvin.

To answer some of your questions: 

Yes I do have my CO brokers license and insurance.

I’ve been a PM for over five years now. They are my own properties. I’ve been through the good and the bad. Learned a lot and confident I can scale. I’ve been through an eviction, turnovers, repairs, I’ve also had tenants stay for 3+ years. I have great reviews so far on my Google page…not many but a fair honest amount. I want to go into PM because I’ve been doing it for the past five years and I truly believe that, if done right, it can be a rewarding career, for my and my clients.

Please check out the site and let me know what you think: 

homeremediespm.com


The lead gen hasn’t been working too well. I do believe in organic leads and I don’t think you can scale appropriately via paid leads. I love and trust BP but was still hesitant to pay for their leads because the areas that I wanted to manage were sold out. I think it’s imperative that I increase my PM radius significantly to have any sort of luck scaling within the next 1-3 years. 

Thank you for you opinion and expertise 

Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @Nadir M.:

Buying leads is often a fool's errand. The easy path rarely produces a good return.

It's hard to build the business when you are just starting out. How will you differentiate yourself from the competition when you have little/no experience?

I recommend building your elevator pitch (30 seconds or less), your uber presentation (five minutes), and your listing presentation (up to 30 minutes with supporting materials). You have to be prepared to sell yourself quickly or in detail. The more detailed presentations include the ability to answer questions off the cuff like a professional. Things like:

1. How do you handle evictions?

2. What does the law say about emotional support animals?

3. Tell me why you're charging X when the other company charges Y?

I also recommend building some simple marketing materials. Call around to all the real estate offices that do not provide management services. Ask if you can give a 5-minute pitch during their next sales meeting to explain what you do and why they should refer people to you. Leave some materials for their agents to keep on hand. Offer a referral fee. Offer to send the client back to them if the client decides to sell.


 I always appreciate your input Nathan. I also love the elevator pitch idea…which I may need tweek. I have to push cold calling as well, maybe if Zillow rental by owner listing. I also have to expand to more than just a 10 miles radius. 

Thank you for the pointers 

Quote from @Tim Baldwin:

-join asset owner and investor associations 
-network with sales-only real estate companies
-try to be a guest blog writer on relevant websites (e.g. "for rent by owner", investors)
-search for non-homestead properties in your county and send postcards to those owners that own homes that meet the criteria you want to focus on
-network with real estate attorneys 
-network with trustees in banks that offer trustee services
-look up court records of landlords who have filed their own evictions and send them postcards 
-network with HOAs that have non-homestead properties in that association 
-when you see a "for rent by owner" sign in your area, send the owner a letter 
-join Facebook groups (for rent by owner, landlords) and being to contribute 
-improve your SEO on your website
-find someone who can help you gather landlord info from Zillow, etc. 

to name a few :) 


 Thank you, great advise. Improving my SEO is something that I am working on. I guess how vital is a website in correlation to lead gen? In my opinion, I think I have a great site. Let me know what your opinion if you don’t mind. 

Homeremediespm.com 

Hello BP community, 

I'm currently in the process of starting a Property Management Company and looking for the best way to increase my leads/clients. 

Besides word-of-mouth, what are some of the best strategies that have worked for those who have scaled their business. 

I know BP just came out with their new platform that allows you to buy leads but my area has been sold out. I also use All Property Management but have yet to have too much luck. 

Any help would be greatly appreciated


Thank you,