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All Forum Posts by: Nadir M.

Nadir M. has started 64 posts and replied 437 times.

Originally posted by @Theo Hicks:

$8,000 to $15,000 to replace knob and tube, which includes knocking down and replacing drywall. 

 Thank you Theo. That's quite a price tag. 

Originally posted by @Tyler Kastelberg:

@Nadir M.

Two additional thoughts:

1) A central boiler is a cost trap for owners. Be sure to price the cost of decommissioning the boiler and installing HVAC that is controlled and paid for by residents.

2) Old windows can be expensive to replace, especially if in a historic district. Be sure to price this before purchase, especially if you pay utilities.

No central boiler thankfully and all windows have been replaced. The only utilities that is paid by owner is water and sewer. Thank you for your feed back.

Originally posted by @Patrick M.:

I have 2 old multi's and have found issues with the foundations. Make sure you have a good inspector. Basement ceilings can hide sag and other issues. Both of my buildings didn't "seem" to have foundation issues, but 100 years of ever increasing weight (we have a lot more stuff now) can affect the support. Also, depending on the outer exterior block used- it could be quite weak.

I echo what others have said about plumbing and electrical. Assuming there has not been a recent renovation then I would assume it will be drafty and poorly insulated. Blowing in insulation to the attic on receipt will pay for itself.

If it is a masonry structure there can be a whole host of nightmares surrounding deteriorating brick, especially around windows. If you have water heaters exhausting up interior chimneys then be aware of possible leakage.

Recognize that every job which you have to do has the potential to spiral into others- I have found a number of patchwork jobs when we went to do work that necessitated doing more work than anticipated. 

Upon closing I put water pressure regulators on the main lines in- we have pretty high pressure, municipal water- this will give those old pipes a break.

As for the neighboring buildings- I have renovated all my units before I have put them for rent. The neighboring units set the market ceiling in my market and they are more than happy to sit on their price, so I wind up stealing their tenants by being just below.

I would suggest deciding up front on renovating or not, 100 year old structures do not support todays lifestyles unless they have been updated, so you will pigeon hole yourself to the lower renter.

These two buildings have brick exterior, block foundation, will have chimney stack for furnace venting, no fireplaces. Tuck point work as been done on a yearly basis and will continue to be done. No boiler either, each unit has a furnace and water heater. Some plumbing was done 4 years ago but will dig more into that. For electricity, they were replaced with breakers rather than the older fuse boxes. Windows are new, so that has already been taken care of. The outside AC unit will need to eventually be replaced and soon. The furnace and water heater are about 10 years old. Roof about five years old. Honestly, my main concern is the foundation, even though it looks to stand up right now, when will I start to have major issues are my thoughts! Also, my realtor said that this USED to be a D neighborhood but lot's of new expansions and renovations going on so it has gotten better. I'm back and forth!

@Peter Fennig its a relief to hear that you were able to come out successful in a very similar situation. I will definitely do my research. This used to be a pretty bad neighborhood according to my realator but due to all the new buildings it’s starting to turn around...I’m hoping!
@Peter Fennig these units I’m looking at were build in 1916. The new apartments i‘m talking about opened this past summer. They also just built a brand new house right next to one of the units. Directly in front is open land with a sign stating new construction coming soon. It’s an older neighborhood but directly in the middle of midtown and old town so the location I would say is great! In terms of amenities, these units offer similar to what the apartment complexes offer...there is a washer dryer on each floor, there has been some remodeling going on, and a balcony on each floor as well. I have been reading some reviews on the new apartment complexes and the parking there is awful so that’s one advantage I’d have. The units I’m looking to buy, two of the total four units have been vacant for about a month and a half now. I keep thinking the motivation for the owner to sell is due to competition but I’m still looking into that. This would be my first investment property and don’t want to sink right of the gecko.
If an older building I am trying to purchase has newer construction in neighborhood ie brand new massive apartment complex, is this something I should be worried about or something that will help me or can use to my advantage? I feel like it may steal some tenants that may have been interested in renting my units...i feel like the only way to compete is to lower my monthly rent right or maybe doing some serious rehab? Any thoughts? Thank you,
Another question that came to mind. If the older building i am trying to purchase has newer construction in neighborhood ie brand new massive apartment units, is this something I should be worried about or something that will help me? I feel like it may steal some tenants that may have been interested in renting my units...i feel like the only want to compete is to lower my monthly rent right or maybe doing some serious rehab? any thoughts? Thank you,

Post: How to get my money back?

Nadir M.Posted
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@Tyler Mullen I appreciate your expertise with this entire ordeal!!! Thank you!
@Theo Hicks thank you. Most replies stated knob and tube electrical and and piping issues. Roughly how much would such fixeS cost? I know it’s a broad question but would help to put everything into perspective. Thank you.
Thank you for your input! The properties are actually duplexes, sorry I should have mentioned that. I wouldn’t imagine much of a difference from what you guys mentioned correct? If these properties go to the inspection phase I’ll make sure that all the above mentioned are looked into!