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All Forum Posts by: Jarrett Harris

Jarrett Harris has started 13 posts and replied 303 times.

Post: What utilities, if any, do you pay?

Jarrett HarrisPosted
  • Calumet City, IL
  • Posts 312
  • Votes 49

My tenants pay their own electric and gas bill. I pay for the water since their is only 1 line/meter going into the building. This is standard for my area. Some companies do offer sub-metering but I have not looked into that yet.

Hello all. I am currently looking to purchase my second rental property. It is a 2 bed 2 bath condo for $57K  The finance company that I got my 4-unit through says they will not do a mortgage below $50K and they would require 20% down since this will be another rental for me and not owner occupied. How can I get around this? Any ideas. Do anyone only do loans for 10% down?

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/19547-Lake-Shore-Dr-Apt-2_Lynwood_IL_60411_M85477-65079?row=21

Post: Newbie from Bourbonnais, Illinois!

Jarrett HarrisPosted
  • Calumet City, IL
  • Posts 312
  • Votes 49

Welcome.

Post: Chicago suburb condo buy and hold

Jarrett HarrisPosted
  • Calumet City, IL
  • Posts 312
  • Votes 49

Good to hear.

Post: 4 plex Coin Laundry

Jarrett HarrisPosted
  • Calumet City, IL
  • Posts 312
  • Votes 49
Originally posted by @Thomas Fosnaugh:

Just had a long term good tenant tell me that she would gladly pay an extra $25 per month If she didnt have to pay for coin laundry.  The washer/dryer work ok but are older and will need repair/replacement very soon anyway.  If she's serious, it would take rennt from $525 to $550 which would be on the top end for the local area.  Not sure about other tenants, but the idea of an easy rent raise where I know I would keep the tenant seems like a smart idea in a way.  Coin laundry brings in about $20-30 a month or so for the building, but I would probably end up with a bigger water/electric bill with free laundry and I'm not sure about the other tenants but most have kids so they might be pretty receptive too.  Her current lease is up in about 5 months and I could get a good deal on a new washer and/or dryer right now that will be more energy efficient.  Any ideas/opinions greatly appreciated.

I would not do it. After while people start to get careless. They will wash 1 or 2 items at a time, do other people's laundry or others outside your building will start using the machines. I have coin-op machines in my 4-plex and it only brings in $35-50/month. However I highly doubt anyone in my building would pay more for it to be free.

@Roy N. 

I would agree. I would replace all shower heads and Faucet aerators with the low flow style. You should save money almost immediately.  

Looks great. It is nice to see this process.

Originally posted by @Mark Malevskis:

Hello, 

I have just purchased a six unit last month. 

Rents were due on the 1st. I have installed a rent drop box on the first floor and passed out a letter to all of the tenants to deposit checks in their. 

I check the box yesterday and 0 checks were there. 

According to their rental contract, rent is due on the 1st but they have a week to pay before late charge kicks in. 

What do you think I do at this point? 

Should I wait for the rent to come in by the 7th or should I go in there and individually ask each tenant why they haven't made a payment?

Any ides would be great, 

Thank you!

Hey Mark I just noticed you are in Addison. I used to work out that way. Anyway I give my tenants a 5 day grace period. Yes your tenants know their rent is technically not late yet because there are no penalties at this point. In the future you may want to shorten your grace period per the law. I am in cook county. Things are probably different for you in DuPage county.

Post: Effects of depreciation and interest expense.

Jarrett HarrisPosted
  • Calumet City, IL
  • Posts 312
  • Votes 49
Originally posted by @Jon Holdman:

Sorry @Scott Trench but this isn't quite how depreciation works:

For one, you can only depreciation the improvements, not the full cost.  With the 80/20 rule of thumb (there are better ways to do this), the improvements would be $288K.  You depreciation residential properties over 27.5 years, not 30.  Those two offset vs. your calculation, so the net result is about the same.

But you are correct that the depreciation you take each year reduces your tax bill.  But if you sell after 27.5 years, your remaining basis will be only $72K.  So, say you sell it for $720K (doubling in value after 30years).  You would have $648K in gain.  Of that, $288K would be subject to the recapture tax at 25% and the remaining $360K would be subject to long term capital gains at 15%.  So while you're saving 28% each year as you hold the property, you're paying a big chunk of that back if you sell.

And that assumes tax law remains unchanged.  That's definitely a bet I won't take.

Not to say that deferring the tax bill is bad.  Its not.   But depreciation is less valuable than many gurus and sellers make it out to be.

And its often slapped on crummy rentals as lipstick.  Say you're just above break even with real expenses.  You subtract depreciation and you get a passive loss.  No problem, says the seller, you can use that to offset other income.  Yeah, right.  If your AGI is under $100K you can do that, up to $25K in passive losses.  Over $150K (that's for a couple, too), you cannot.  In between it phases out.  Now I know that's a lot of money but I would say many people who are investing in rentals are relative high income.  So, this is a consideration.  And one that's often overlooked by people selling crummy rentals.

Yep! that is what happened to my wife and I. We did not know we were so close to that $150K income limit until last year at tax time. We are still paying the tax bill off to the tune of $200/month.