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All Forum Posts by: Wesley W.

Wesley W. has started 112 posts and replied 1861 times.

Post: Finding the new address of vacating tenants

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Originally posted by @Jim C.:

After they move out and you notice no new mail showing up to the mailbox, send them a blank envelope with RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED on the outside of the envelope. If they have a forwarding address, the Postal Service should return to you with the new address. 

 Bingo!  This is the kind of empirical "gold" I am talking about!

Anyone have any others?

Post: Finding the new address of vacating tenants

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@Levi T.

I know the uphill battles of collecting a judgment, but that is really not what I am asking. ;)

They are "low hanging fruit" as I know enough about them to collect. (I'd rather not go into detail in writing.)  It's the service after the move that I am trying to line up.  I appreciate you trying to provide helpful advice and feedback, but my question is...

I'm looking for clever ways to find out where they have moved to after they leave.

Thank you in advance! :)

Post: Finding the new address of vacating tenants

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@Jeff Bridges

I'm not admitting to anything.  These are inherited tenants and there is a long back story that is really not germane to my original question.  Suffice to say they will have no security deposit upon vacating and will have a balance due to me.  They know this and will not willingly give me their address.  I will have trouble serving them court papers if I don't know where they live.

What I'm asking is if anyone has any clever ways of determining where they move to once they vacate.

Thanks!

Post: Finding the new address of vacating tenants

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@Beth L.

They won't be giving it to me.  They know I will want it to serve papers to get a judgement.

Post: Finding the new address of vacating tenants

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@Jeff Bridges

Great idea, except they will not have any security deposit to return, hence the "end up owing" phrase in the OP.

Post: Finding the new address of vacating tenants

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Hello folks,

Anyone have a clever means of finding the new local address of vacating tenants that (shudder the thought) might end up owing you once they relinquish possession? 

My first thought is have someone follow the moving truck, but I am sure there is a whole tool box out there for this.

Thanks in advance!

Post: Duplex: What is normal in regards to washer/dryer use by tenants?

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I would lean towards a separate set.  Being a live-in landlord necessitates you keeping a definitive line between being a neighbor and the owner.  Among the other reasons you stated, I think sharing appliances serves to blur that line a bit more.

Post: Good property manager terms?

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I've mentioned this in a few threads recently, but it seems to keep popping up.   @Brie Schmidt has a great method for incentivizing the PM so their goals are aligned with the owner's. She outlines the written contract with her PMs on one of the BP podcasts.

It's something like this...take 25% of gross monthly rent and use that as an annual "vacancy bonus." So for 10 units renting at $1000 a month, owner pays the PM $2500 vacancy bonus over the year. So each quarter PM would get $62.50 if that unit had no loss of income.

Post: Using a Property Manager But Finding My Own Tenants?

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Originally posted by @Max T.:

There has got to be a better way.

Paying the PM a lease up/turnover fee is a skewed incentive.

They are rewarded for finding tenants who don't stay long term. NOT in the owner's best interest.

I don't know what the answer is, but the model is flawed.

 I've mentioned this in previous threads, but @Brie Schmidt has a great method for incentivizing the PM so their goals are aligned with the owner's.  She outlines the written contract with her PMs on one of the BP podcasts.

It's something like this...take 25% of gross monthly rent and use that as an annual "vacancy bonus."  So for 10 units renting at $1000 a month, owner pays the PM $2500 vacancy bonus over the year. So each quarter PM would get $62.50 if that unit had no loss of income.

Post: Buyers of rent-ready small multis: advice needed

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@Roy N.

They are 2-4 residential. I can understand the sellers are less sophisticated, but since the units are occupied and I am paying retail, I don't have a big margin like the folks who buy vacant distressed properties do. So, I am trying to CYA (or CMA, as the case would be). ;)