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All Forum Posts by: Matthew Saskin

Matthew Saskin has started 1 posts and replied 73 times.

I've received preapprovals without any credit  inquiry and without providing credit reports.  I've worked with a half-dozen brokers or so in the past 5 years and all were willing to issue a pre-approval letter off of nothing but my tax returns and paystubs.

-matthew

Post: Home inspection for multifamily building

Matthew SaskinPosted
  • Chapel Hill, NC
  • Posts 74
  • Votes 29
Originally posted by @Rick Pozos:

I would definitely find a local inspector. If its a multifamily property, I would break down and spend the money to fly in for the day, rent a car, see the properties, and fly back.

It will cost several hundred dollars, a dayof your time and you can meet the inspector at the property. I like to get a little feel for the property, the area and just see whats happening all around.

Agree entirely.  When I'm serious enough about a transaction that I get an inspector involved, I also fly out to meet them and walk through the property at the same time.

Post: Property Management Fees

Matthew SaskinPosted
  • Chapel Hill, NC
  • Posts 74
  • Votes 29

Here in NC, I pay 7% of rents, $100 lease renewal fee, 1/2 month rent for tenant placement.  I was able to negotiate this somewhat as I brought 10 units right away to a firm with about 400 units under management, and they understand that I'll be bringing them further business in the future.

Originally posted by @Jane A.:

It is better to keep the rent $50 below market. Experienced landlords do not increase the rent for current tenants at all as they do not want headache connected with tenants turnover. But if you really want to increase cash flow from this building and are ready for some rehab expenses - do it step by step. Talk to tenants, ask them first about their needs. Understand their circumstances and decide what will be the best course of action in your case. Some times the best action is "no action" :))) Do not underestimate possible budget of turnover unless you have a handymen in your family.

 100% this.  People tend to get very myopic and increasing cash flow without thinking about the long-term effects.  While an extra $50 a month for a unit may be nice, what's the alternative to that extra $600?  How much does vacancy, re-leasing, and turnover maintenance cost you?  I can tell you for most of my units my all in costs to turn a unit are in the $2000-$3000 neighborhood assuming no major repairs are needed (eg; that's the price for vacancy, leasing fees, paint, carpet cleaning, other misc. repairs).  It's much more valuable for me to just let a tenant run their course at a lower rent and enjoy the stability of the income.  Of course, this is market dependent - I can without question increase rent at renewal time in some markets (New York City) whereas I avoid rent increases if at all possible in others (North Carolina)

Originally posted by @Marcia Maynard:

In addition to a letter of introduction, I would take the time to meet with each tenant one on one. Go over the current terms of the lease/rental agreement and your expectations, so you establish a common understanding. Let the tenants know about your management style and explore common goals you share. Most everyone values safety, let them know you do too. Let them know you value a quiet, clean, comfortable and peaceful living environment. Ask the tenants what is currently working for them and if there are any things they see as needing improvement. Demonstrate that you care about the condition of the property by attending to deferred maintenance as you see it and making improvements. Demonstrate you care about people by taking the time to listen and by being responsive to what they have to say.

I can't recommend this enough.  When we self-managed our properties in NYC we did this, and a large part of selecting our property management firm here in Raleigh was their approach to building relationships with tenants and making sure that everyone was working from the same game plan - understanding that as a tenant they are responsible for keeping things clean, paying on time, etc. and as a landlord (via our property management) we'll respect that relationship by ensuring that maintenance items are taken care of ASAP, renewals for valuable tenants will be offered without question, etc.  While it is absolutely a business, it's also, to some extent, a partnership between a tenant and a landlord and having a clear understanding of expectations and goals is critical.

@Curtis Rumel

I'm with the others.  Forget Chase and find a broker who will give you a pre-approval TODAY.   I actually have loans serviced by Chase on rentals.  But I didn't get those loans from Chase.  They just ended up with them after they were originated.

 I'll pile on and echo this sentiment.  Every mortgage broker I've ever worked with has been able to provide me with a same-day (usually within a few hours) pre-approval without any heartburn.

Post: Valuing a MF in New York City

Matthew SaskinPosted
  • Chapel Hill, NC
  • Posts 74
  • Votes 29
Originally posted by @Amit M.:

interesting discussion among you NYC investors. One thing I'm curious about- I never hear from any Manhattan investors here on BP. I'm assuming it's because you need deep pockets to do much in Manhattan?  If you want to buy 3-4 units in Manhattan, what are the price ranges?  I'm assuming $2-3 million minimum, and so you probably need to put down 30-40% to get any return?  Hence only deep pocket investors, or those who already have appreciated properties can play in that market?  I'd be interested in your perspectives on the Manhattan market. Thx. 

 

Well, the big challenges (rent control/stabilization, tenant friendly housing courts, tough renovations/need for expeditors, etc.) is NYC-wide, no differences between the boroughs there.

As for Manhattan proper, my take is it comes down to two distinct reasons.  First - housing stock.  The bulk of manhattan doesn't have 2-4 family rowhouses/brownstones that exist in the outer boroughs.  The areas of Manhattan that do have smaller row houses are either in midtown near the park or in the east/west village (read: 3-4M+ for a property) or up in Harlem where it's marginally less expensive, but you can't command the rent to justify it.  Second, for those that can afford the rents there is just a high volume of available luxury/high-rise apartment buildings in Manhattan to choose from.  From friends and colleagues that live/rent in NYC, the bulk of owners/landlords of smaller properties in Manhattan tend to be long-term owners (eg; have owned the property for 20, 30+ years).

From an investment perspective, the price in the outer boroughs coupled with the still extremely high demand for rentals makes it a no-brainer if you can afford the entry ticket.

Post: Valuing a MF in New York City

Matthew SaskinPosted
  • Chapel Hill, NC
  • Posts 74
  • Votes 29
Originally posted by @Adam K.:

@Jerome Zhang

Jerome, I think a 5% cap rate is pretty standard for the listings I see, but as Matthew has shown, if you can pay below listing that helps your return, and if you get creative it helps your return. Also keep in mind that rents are rising pretty quickly in the right neighborhoods so that 5% cap will be higher in the future.

I've only got limited experience and got very lucky with my first MF purchase thus far (800K for a 4 unit in a very hot neighborhood with a current rentroll of ~$7K that is still about 10% below market) but I think the same advice applies here that would to most places - keep digging and get creative.

Is there any reason you're going to put 50 - 75% down? Interest rates are still low, there's no reason not to take advantage of that and leave yourself with enough capital for 2 buildings. Putting all your money into one building is a pretty big risk.

@Matthew Saskin

Are you still based out of NC? Do you have partners in NYC? Just curious how you've gotten involved here and gotten familiar with the neighborhoods. I'm starting the search for my next purchase -- do you operate mostly off-MLS or do you find listings there, as well?

 Adam - originally started investing in NYC about 5 years ago while living there.  Moved to North Carolina 3 years ago but continue to invest in NYC (as well as NC now).  I'm up in NYC every 4-6 weeks for my "day job", to visit family, etc.  I definitely would not consider investing in NYC without feet on the street to identify properties, understand the ins and outs of specific neighborhoods, etc.  There are too many vagaries in the NYC market to be entirely remote in my opinion.

As for identification of properties - mostly driving around my target neighorhoods and seeing what's being renovated. We only purchase renovated properties (from investors/flippers) - there's a bunch of reasons behind that, but that's what we do. MLS listings are pretty useless given the complete lack of a consolidated MLS in the NYC area and the fact that many properties (100% of the ones I've purchased) are never actually listed by any brokers.

-matthew

Post: Valuing a MF in New York City

Matthew SaskinPosted
  • Chapel Hill, NC
  • Posts 74
  • Votes 29
Originally posted by @Jerome Zhang:
Were these just phenomenal deals to get you a rent roll of $8600 per month (And you said this is low end) for a 1.2mil place? I haven't done too much digging, but from what I've gathered, it seems like 1-1.2mil will get you around 6k in rent roll which would be a cap ex of 5ish% a year (much lower than your returns). Could you give me pointers as to how to get myself into a similar situation in a relatively "safe" but up and coming area? I'd be putting far more than 25% down - think double or triple that.

If it's better for us to speak via messaging, let's use that channel.

Thanks Matthew.

 I'm happy to share in public or via direct message, ask any questions you've got.

Don't know where you're looking, but 1.2-1.5M in the right neighborhoods can easily get a solid rent roll.  Speaking generally, but I only look at 3/4 unit buildings (duplexes don't make sense), and in the grand scheme of things total number of legal bedrooms is the most important metric as that's ultimately what drives rent roll given that the majority of renters, at least in the gentrifying areas that I target, tend to be recent grads who are sharing an apartment and want to live in the "hot" part of town but can't afford Manhattan proper.  In the case of our last purchase, we paid 1.2M (on a property listed at 1.35M) since they only built it as 7 bedrooms total - during first walkthrough we identified the ability to easily, and legally, add 3 bedrooms to the mix.  End result, we negotiated the seller down, we put 20K in post-closing to add some walls and voila, we turned the apartment from something that would generate 6500-7500/month into something that will generate 9000-10000/month at peak market rents.

Originally posted by @Brian Gibbons:

Staying away from federal regulations over 4 units there's no Dodd Frank

So there's no CFPB either

 I wouldn't consider that to be a negative thing! ;)