Originally posted by @Amit M.:
interesting discussion among you NYC investors. One thing I'm curious about- I never hear from any Manhattan investors here on BP. I'm assuming it's because you need deep pockets to do much in Manhattan? If you want to buy 3-4 units in Manhattan, what are the price ranges? I'm assuming $2-3 million minimum, and so you probably need to put down 30-40% to get any return? Hence only deep pocket investors, or those who already have appreciated properties can play in that market? I'd be interested in your perspectives on the Manhattan market. Thx.
Well, the big challenges (rent control/stabilization, tenant friendly housing courts, tough renovations/need for expeditors, etc.) is NYC-wide, no differences between the boroughs there.
As for Manhattan proper, my take is it comes down to two distinct reasons. First - housing stock. The bulk of manhattan doesn't have 2-4 family rowhouses/brownstones that exist in the outer boroughs. The areas of Manhattan that do have smaller row houses are either in midtown near the park or in the east/west village (read: 3-4M+ for a property) or up in Harlem where it's marginally less expensive, but you can't command the rent to justify it. Second, for those that can afford the rents there is just a high volume of available luxury/high-rise apartment buildings in Manhattan to choose from. From friends and colleagues that live/rent in NYC, the bulk of owners/landlords of smaller properties in Manhattan tend to be long-term owners (eg; have owned the property for 20, 30+ years).
From an investment perspective, the price in the outer boroughs coupled with the still extremely high demand for rentals makes it a no-brainer if you can afford the entry ticket.