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All Forum Posts by: Matthew Saskin

Matthew Saskin has started 1 posts and replied 73 times.

Post: Valuing a MF in New York City

Matthew SaskinPosted
  • Chapel Hill, NC
  • Posts 74
  • Votes 29
Originally posted by @Angel Rosado:

@Matthew Saskin Great points on both responses.  I look forward to achieving the results that you have been able to attain.  

The biggest hurdle that I am dealing with is the cost to enter the market, which is a matter of time, saving as much as I can.  I can clearly see the vacancy rates being low compared to other market especially considering the concentration of people within the 5 boroughs.

Just in these two post I was able to get a lot of information, didn't know that in NY the landlord pays the broker's fee.

 Brokers fees are a highly variable area, driven mostly by how "hot" a neighborhood is.  In prime neighborhoods (eg; all of Manhattan, Park Slope/Williamsburg/etc. in Brooklyn, and others) the standard is for tenants to pay without question.  In other up and coming/gentrifying areas, it's pretty variable as to whether the norm is tenant-pays or landlord-pays.  In the areas we invest in, I'd say we're just at the cusp of switching from landlord to tenant pays for the brokers fees - give it another 1-2 years and the areas will be solidly tenant pays.

Moral of the story, understand the dynamics of your specific target neighborhood so you can evaluate appropriately.

Post: Valuing a MF in New York City

Matthew SaskinPosted
  • Chapel Hill, NC
  • Posts 74
  • Votes 29
Originally posted by @J Scott:
Originally posted by @Angel Rosado:

@J Scott Sorry the valuation techniques are the same.  When I said that, I meant to say that NYC is a beast in terms of the cost to purchase a property is high or is my thinking flawed?

Just when I was thinking it was impossible to send sarcasm via forums someone has succeeded hahaha.

Prices are certainly higher in NYC than in most cities, but that doesn't make the valuation methods any different.  Perhaps investors are willing to buy with lower cap rates, perhaps investors are willing to speculate more, perhaps there are rent control rules/laws that need to be factored into the analysis, etc.  But, the basic valuation techniques will hold true anywhere that real estate is participating in a free market.

If the OP thinks that NYC has it's own set of valuation rules, I'll need to be convinced...

 Spot on.  There's nothing different about valuation in NYC than anywhere else.

In fact, depending on the neighborhood, due to a fairly homogenous housing stock (eg; stick construction 3 or 4 family row-houses), I'd argue it's easier to value some properties because they're all "the same".  In 5 years and multiple gut-renovated 3 and 4 family properties in the same neighborhoods I can tell you that the various costs associated are basically identical property-to-property. 

As with anything, it's about knowing the vagaries of the market.  No lawn maintenance to worry about in NYC, but make sure you get snow shoveled immediately or the city will fine you.  Same with making sure garbage or recycling are properly sorted, otherwise, you get a fine!  Property taxes are shockingly low in most areas of NYC (despite common belief), vacancy rates are also extremely low (I've averaged 100% occupancy across multiple properties in 5 years without even trying hard).  Depending on the neighborhood, brokers fees/commission for finding tenants can be high (1 month rent to 15% of annual rent, landlord pays) unless you're in an area that's "hot enough" to command tenant paid brokers fees.  And the list goes on...

Post: Valuing a MF in New York City

Matthew SaskinPosted
  • Chapel Hill, NC
  • Posts 74
  • Votes 29
Originally posted by @Angel Rosado:

I am also wondering what response you will receive for this question.  NYC is a complete beast of its own. They just announced that for one year leases no increase and for two year leases two percent increase for rent stabilized apartments.  As an investor event's like this make me stay away from investing within 5 miles.

I have decided to open up my search range within an hour out of the city such as Yonkers, Northern NJ, and even a little further.

Also as a primer on calculating ARV to compare two properties use this file http://www.biggerpockets.com/files/user/JasonScott... by @J Scott

However, that's only applicable to rent stabilized apartments.  Pretty simply response to that - don't invest in units that are under rent control or rent stabilization programs.

I've had a ton of success investing in MFH (3 and 4 family buildings) in very specific New York City neighborhoods - Bed Stuy, Bushwick, and Ridgewood in my case.

Investing in NYC is not really any different than in any other part of the country with the following exceptions:

-Cost of entry is very high.  My 3 and 4 family units all were between 600k and 1.3M to purchase

-The market is hyper-localized.  The different of a few blocks can mean the difference between fairly comparable rental units being able to command $2000/mo in rent vs. $3000/mo in rent, and if you don't know the areas well yourself, you run the risk of buying something one block too far over

-In return for high cost of entry and high rents, the returns are larger.  On my most recent purchase (1.2M at 25% down for a 3-family) I'm taking in gross rents of $8600/mo (which is below market rate due to signing initial leases mid-winter) but still have a monthly net profit (after all expenses including capital reserves) of roughly $2k, so an 8% return.  After re-leasing during peak rental months I expect gross rents of around $9400/mo, bumping annual return to 11.2% from that point forward.

I'm happy to answer any specific questions about NYC MFH based on my experience over the past 5 or so years.

-matthew

Post: How can I find out what is owed on a property I am interested in?

Matthew SaskinPosted
  • Chapel Hill, NC
  • Posts 74
  • Votes 29
Originally posted by @Jonathan Breines:

I am interested in wholesaling and want to know how I can look up the amount the seller currently owes on a property. By having this information, I will know how much equity is in the home and help with my negotiation.  Thanks!

 Depends on your locale.  In NYC and in counties here in NC I can go to the registrar of deeds website and view liens against properties.  Not exactly how much they owe, but can at least find out the terms of the original mortgage they were issued, etc.

Post: Greetings from Forest Hills, Queens (NYC)

Matthew SaskinPosted
  • Chapel Hill, NC
  • Posts 74
  • Votes 29
Originally posted by @Chad G.:
Originally posted by @Matthew Saskin:
Originally posted by @Chad G.:

 Welcome Chad!  For what it's worth, we moved from NYC (lived in Brooklyn for 7 years) to the Raleigh area 3 years ago and don't regret a moment of it.  Feel free to message me if you want to talk more about it.  Incidentally, we are invested in both the NYC and NC markets as well.

 I bet. I've only lived here for 4 years and I do regret it, although not entirely (I did meet my fiance here after-all). I'd be interested in learning about your strategy for the NYC market. It seems pretty brutal here.

 Hah, not brutal, just expensive, but the returns (in terms of cash-flow and appreciation) justify it.  In general, we've been very selective with properties and only purchase in specific areas we know very well (mostly Bushwick, although we're open to Bed-Stuy and Ridgewood).  These areas all have a balance of acquisition price vs. the rents they command, and are all firmly on the upward trending "gentrification curve" to various degrees.

Post: Greetings from Forest Hills, Queens (NYC)

Matthew SaskinPosted
  • Chapel Hill, NC
  • Posts 74
  • Votes 29
Originally posted by @Chad G.:

Hi everyone, my name is Chad Gross. I am 35, engaged and currently reside in New York, NY. We are getting married in October and plan to move within a year or so afterwards. I currently work as an executive in the IT field and my fiancé works as a project manager in construction building skyscrapers and other urban structures. We are aiming for high growth tech hubs, since they also bring a lot of construction jobs.  Raleigh, NC is highest on the list, but we are also considering Austin, TX and Denver, CO.

We've been focused on paying off our school and car loans and are almost there, which will leave us with just our mortgage. I have been interested in REI ever since reading Rich Dad Poor Dad about 10 years ago, but have always been reluctant. I recently became motivated again and found BP.com. This site and the podcasts have been amazing! I am very interested in passive income and wealth creation, therefore buy and hold residential is where I believe we will start. I would like to retire by 55.

 Welcome Chad!  For what it's worth, we moved from NYC (lived in Brooklyn for 7 years) to the Raleigh area 3 years ago and don't regret a moment of it.  Feel free to message me if you want to talk more about it.  Incidentally, we are invested in both the NYC and NC markets as well.

Post: CBC Innovis

Matthew SaskinPosted
  • Chapel Hill, NC
  • Posts 74
  • Votes 29

CBC Innovis provides credit verification services, background checks, etc. for lenders.  If you're at the final stages of receiving a loan, expect to see a hard inquiry from them or another similar firm.  If you're not at the point of finalizing a loan however, I'd look into why there are hard inquiries.

Should also note, we only invest in properties (or groupings) that come with a rent roll above a certain amount.  That means while we bought triplexes (or larger) in NYC, the only reason we're in duplexes in NC at the moment is that we purchased 5 of them on a street as a package sale.

We don't invest in SFH's. Prefer the economies of scale given by MFH's (eg; single envelope for multiple units, etc.). Also, multi-family does not necessarily imply there are utility bills to pay.

We have a triplex in NYC where we pay gas (heat), water/sewer, and common area lights, another triplex where we pay only water (gas is metered per unit with separate boilers), and 5 duplexes in NC where we pay no utilities at all (Everything is metered for the individual unit)

Post: Multiple Umbrella Policies for Different Properties?

Matthew SaskinPosted
  • Chapel Hill, NC
  • Posts 74
  • Votes 29
Originally posted by @Joe Bertolino:
You can buy a single umbrella policy that will be excess of all of your underlying policies.

 This is our move.  We have individual homeowners/landlords policies on all of our properties, and an umbrella policy covering everything above that.