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All Forum Posts by: Ryan Moyer

Ryan Moyer has started 11 posts and replied 851 times.

Post: Bargain hunters: New construction near Gatlinburg being auctioned off

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Quote from @Collin Hays:
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Quote from @Matt Mertz:

We actually drove by this house earlier this month when we were in town.  We were looking at some land up the road from there.

Cosby is a little out there so personally I wouldn't invest in STRs unless they were off 321.

That area is nice and quiet though.

My best ROIs have been in Cosby. I picked up a cabin there in 2021.  I’m in at $190K cash and it will do $40K this year, a down year.  


 What is that cabin worth today?  2021 was right when things really started going up so I'm guessing a fair bit more than that?

Really hard to say, I’ll just keep it and let my kids worry about it when I take my dirt nap.  👀🤣

Haha fair enough. I guess my point was the ROI was good there based on 2021 home prices, but Matt was talking about looking there in 2024. Does that $40k/yr still represent a good ROI at today's prices?

Post: Bargain hunters: New construction near Gatlinburg being auctioned off

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Quote from @Collin Hays:
Quote from @Matt Mertz:

We actually drove by this house earlier this month when we were in town.  We were looking at some land up the road from there.

Cosby is a little out there so personally I wouldn't invest in STRs unless they were off 321.

That area is nice and quiet though.

My best ROIs have been in Cosby. I picked up a cabin there in 2021.  I’m in at $190K cash and it will do $40K this year, a down year.  


 What is that cabin worth today?  2021 was right when things really started going up so I'm guessing a fair bit more than that?

Post: Bargain hunters: New construction near Gatlinburg being auctioned off

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Would something like this have to be bought in cash or can it be financed?

Post: Seeking advice for buying a vacation home in downtown Seattle

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Quote from @Ty Coutts:

Hello Cheryl, purchasing a vacation home in downtown Seattle, particularly in the Belltown area, can be a compelling investment due to its vibrant urban environment, proximity to major attractions, and scenic waterfront views. However, it is crucial to understand the current market conditions and potential concerns. Seattle's real estate market is characterized by high property prices, driven by strong demand and limited housing supply. In contrast, rental yields are relatively lower, which can make it challenging to cover mortgage payments and other expenses solely through rental income. Additionally, the rental market in Seattle can be competitive, with seasonal fluctuations affecting short-term rental demand. It is important to consider local regulations, as Seattle has specific rules and restrictions for short-term rentals, which might impact your ability to rent out the property when not in use. Thoroughly researching the market, including average rental rates, occupancy rates, and potential return on investment, is essential. Consulting with a local real estate agent who specializes in vacation homes can provide valuable insights and help navigate the intricacies of the Seattle market.


 Thanks, ChatGPT!

Post: Best PMS for someone looking to scale a STR Property Management Company

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Quote from @Allen Duan:

We use Hospitable and Hostfully. Hostfully is more robust and a more complete solution to Hospitable. I recommend Hospitable if you're starting out with 1-3 properties. It can definitely work for more, but I made the switch to Hostfully when I needed more features. Happy to answer any specific questions about both apps. I like them both.


 What features did hostfully have that you wanted to that were missing in Hospitable?

Post: Short term tax deductions only applies the first year?

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Quote from @Account Closed:

I heard that short term loophole is a one time benefit that you get the year you start service. The following year would be considered passive, so even if you materially participated, it would still be passive the following year and you cannot offset your W2.

Is this accurate? Maybe I took this out of context. Can someone explain further? 

 I think you took it out of context.

You can only use bonus depreciation one time because once you've used it, you've used it.  But classifying your depreciation (either the leftover annual depreciation after taking bonus depreciation, or the regular amount of depreciation if you didn't take bonus depreciation) can be taken as an active deduction against your W2 income for as long as you materially participate in the property.

Disclaimer: I'm not a tax professional so not financial advice.  This is just my understanding of it.

Post: Vrbo Policy Updates: Partner Cancellation

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We got dinged with one that was our fault, but felt the punishment way out-weighed the crime.

We took on a handful of properties from a new client.  They wanted to keep their old bookings though and leave them under the old PM to be sure the guest's wouldn't cancel when switching over to the new listing.  So we had to manually block off the dates for about 80 reservations across a bunch of properties.

Well, we missed one and accidentally took a booking on our listing for dates that should have been blocked off.  We noticed it pretty much immediately (within a few hours of booking).  We reached out to the guest but they weren't willing to work with us on it, adamant that they should get to keep the booking.

We ended up having to pay the fine and had our listing penalized pretty heavily.  It was our fault so it is what it is, but it sucks that an honest mistake that would have been a super tiny inconvenience for the guest ended up being a huge thing for us with a monetary fine and likely lots of money lost in future reservations.  

Oh well, live and learn.  At least we're a company with redundancies to make this happen very very rarely, and with enough inventory to make it not the end of the world.  I really feel for regular owners.  The whole point of Airbnb/VRBO is regular people are supposed to be able to rent their places, and those people make mistakes (especially on VRBO's garbage website).  Punishment seems way too harsh on those folks.

Post: Proposed Rent Increase Limit of 5%/Yr Nationally?! Seriously?

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Quote from @John Kunick:
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Quote from @John Kunick:
Quote from @Ryan Moyer:
Quote from @John Kunick:
Quote from @Jeff G.:
Quote from @Andrew B.:

It only applies to those who own more than 50 units, so if thats you I get why you're not happy, but I do believe this is a good thing for Americans. The cost of housing has exploded. 

I'm sure someone will chime in and say "that's going against capitalism and the free market," but I'll remind you tax benefits are not part of the free market. The whole intention behind a tax benefit is to encourage you to do something. If the rental market is extremely profitable, you dont need more incentives to buy rentals, you were going to do it regardless. 


 Nope, I don't have 50 units. I expect to grow to that size eventually, but that day is not today. I'm with you on the tax incentive argument: I'm very much a flat tax guy.

It's not that rent control is "against the free market" that bothers me. That happens to be true, but the real problem is that it introduces artificial inefficiencies in the market that end up severely harming the people that it's allegedly supposed to help.

Wherever there is rent control there is severe market dysfunction. I have yet to see a counterexample.


https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/bidens-rent-control-plan-onl...

What continues to amaze me is how dense people are when they are not willing to look at historical examples of what happens when bureaucrats and politicians intervene and therefore artificially change market dynamics.  How in the heck can anyone say "I do believe this is a good thing for Americans"?  This is similar thing that happened when the eviction moratorium was implemented and we had landlords claiming it was a "good thing".  Well, it ended up being a bad thing and ultimately ruled unconstitutional.

 But the tax breaks that would go away here were already bureaucrats and politicians intervening and artificially changing market dynamics.  If you're not in favor of politicians interfering with market dynamics, you should already want those tax breaks gone anyway.


Ryan, where in my post did I mention tax breaks?  Nowhere..  So, why is your response wrongly focused on that topic?  Did you read the article I linked?  If you did you would have gotten a much better perspective on this whole topic..  I really don't care to be distracted by your tax break straw dog - although I could debate how bad our tax policies are generally as I favor a flat tax and therefore eliminating all tax breaks.  I would however appreciate hearing about how you think rent controls, and other political stunts that politicians use to pander to the lower class, actually help or hurt those very people.

Huh?  This whole thread is about tax breaks.  I'm starting to think maybe you didn't actually read the white house statement that this thread is about.

The white house is asking congress to remove tax breaks that were perks for real estate investors that raise rent too aggressively.  Those tax breaks existing in the first place are examples of politicians intervening to artificially change market dynamics, by stimulating investors to buy those properties more aggressively than they would in a free market.  So if your stance is that politicians should not intervene to artificially change market dynamics, then by that definition you should be in favor of them removing or (in this case) limiting the tax breaks that artificially changed market dynamics.

This thread and white house statement isn't about making anything illegal.  It's about taking away or reducing artificial perks (tax breaks) that were created to intervene and artificially change market dynamics in the first place. 


Ryan, no, this thread has been specifically about rent control and whether or not it helps create affordable housing or hurts the very people that the politicians claim it will help.  You and Andrew have tried to turn it into something it was not - whether that was your intention or not. I ask you to go to the top and read the first several posts and specifically my first couple of responses..  In mine there was not one single mention of tax breaks.  Yet, you specifically responded directly to my post (which had nothing in it about tax breaks) and then answered about tax breaks.  This is the title of this thread: Proposed Rent Increase Limit of 5%/Yr Nationally?!

 You're killing me here man.

This thread is about a proposal that would discourage corporate landlords from raising rent by more than 5%/yr by reducing their federal tax breaks if they do it.

It's not my fault if you didn't read the actual proposal nor the other half of the OP that specifically mentioned the tax breaks being what is tied to the rent increase limit.

You can't separate them.  They're not talking about rent control in the same sense as New York City where it's illegal to raise rent by more than X%.  Just because Fox News threw around the term "rent control" 514 times to ragebait you doesn't make it the same thing.

The point here is you can't on one hand say "politicians shouldn't interfere to artificially change the market" and on the other say "these tax breaks that were created by politicians to artificially change the market need to stay in place".  There's no separating the two.  This proposal is about removing those tax breaks for certain landlords.  If you're against the proposal then you are in favor of the tax breaks staying.  Those same tax breaks that were created by politicians to artificially change the market in the first place.

The tax breaks aren't a separate thing.  The "rent control" IS the tax breaks.  Or rather, the removal of them.

Post: Proposed Rent Increase Limit of 5%/Yr Nationally?! Seriously?

Ryan Moyer
Property Manager
Posted
  • Property Manager
  • Orlando Kissimmee, Davenport
  • Posts 866
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Quote from @John Kunick:
Quote from @Ryan Moyer:
Quote from @John Kunick:
Quote from @Jeff G.:
Quote from @Andrew B.:

It only applies to those who own more than 50 units, so if thats you I get why you're not happy, but I do believe this is a good thing for Americans. The cost of housing has exploded. 

I'm sure someone will chime in and say "that's going against capitalism and the free market," but I'll remind you tax benefits are not part of the free market. The whole intention behind a tax benefit is to encourage you to do something. If the rental market is extremely profitable, you dont need more incentives to buy rentals, you were going to do it regardless. 


 Nope, I don't have 50 units. I expect to grow to that size eventually, but that day is not today. I'm with you on the tax incentive argument: I'm very much a flat tax guy.

It's not that rent control is "against the free market" that bothers me. That happens to be true, but the real problem is that it introduces artificial inefficiencies in the market that end up severely harming the people that it's allegedly supposed to help.

Wherever there is rent control there is severe market dysfunction. I have yet to see a counterexample.


https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/bidens-rent-control-plan-onl...

What continues to amaze me is how dense people are when they are not willing to look at historical examples of what happens when bureaucrats and politicians intervene and therefore artificially change market dynamics.  How in the heck can anyone say "I do believe this is a good thing for Americans"?  This is similar thing that happened when the eviction moratorium was implemented and we had landlords claiming it was a "good thing".  Well, it ended up being a bad thing and ultimately ruled unconstitutional.

 But the tax breaks that would go away here were already bureaucrats and politicians intervening and artificially changing market dynamics.  If you're not in favor of politicians interfering with market dynamics, you should already want those tax breaks gone anyway.


Ryan, where in my post did I mention tax breaks?  Nowhere..  So, why is your response wrongly focused on that topic?  Did you read the article I linked?  If you did you would have gotten a much better perspective on this whole topic..  I really don't care to be distracted by your tax break straw dog - although I could debate how bad our tax policies are generally as I favor a flat tax and therefore eliminating all tax breaks.  I would however appreciate hearing about how you think rent controls, and other political stunts that politicians use to pander to the lower class, actually help or hurt those very people.

Huh?  This whole thread is about tax breaks.  That's what the proposed 5% cap is tied to.

The white house is asking congress to remove tax breaks that were perks for real estate investors if they use those tax breaks to raise rent too aggressively.  Those tax breaks existing in the first place are examples of politicians intervening to artificially change market dynamics, by stimulating investors to buy those properties more aggressively than they would in a free market.  So if your stance is that politicians should not intervene to artificially change market dynamics, then by that definition you should be in favor of them removing or (in this case) limiting the tax breaks that artificially changed market dynamics.

The proposal is not to make it illegal to raise rent by more than 5%.  The proposal is to reduce tax breaks when rent is raised by more than 5%.  If you don't think the government should be meddling in the housing/real estate market in the first place, then you should be against those tax breaks existing in the first place, and rolling them back in any capacity would be a step in the right direction.

Post: Proposed Rent Increase Limit of 5%/Yr Nationally?! Seriously?

Ryan Moyer
Property Manager
Posted
  • Property Manager
  • Orlando Kissimmee, Davenport
  • Posts 866
  • Votes 1,266
Quote from @John Kunick:
Quote from @Jeff G.:
Quote from @Andrew B.:

It only applies to those who own more than 50 units, so if thats you I get why you're not happy, but I do believe this is a good thing for Americans. The cost of housing has exploded. 

I'm sure someone will chime in and say "that's going against capitalism and the free market," but I'll remind you tax benefits are not part of the free market. The whole intention behind a tax benefit is to encourage you to do something. If the rental market is extremely profitable, you dont need more incentives to buy rentals, you were going to do it regardless. 


 Nope, I don't have 50 units. I expect to grow to that size eventually, but that day is not today. I'm with you on the tax incentive argument: I'm very much a flat tax guy.

It's not that rent control is "against the free market" that bothers me. That happens to be true, but the real problem is that it introduces artificial inefficiencies in the market that end up severely harming the people that it's allegedly supposed to help.

Wherever there is rent control there is severe market dysfunction. I have yet to see a counterexample.


https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/bidens-rent-control-plan-onl...

What continues to amaze me is how dense people are when they are not willing to look at historical examples of what happens when bureaucrats and politicians intervene and therefore artificially change market dynamics.  How in the heck can anyone say "I do believe this is a good thing for Americans"?  This is similar thing that happened when the eviction moratorium was implemented and we had landlords claiming it was a "good thing".  Well, it ended up being a bad thing and ultimately ruled unconstitutional.

 But the tax breaks that would go away here were already bureaucrats and politicians intervening and artificially changing market dynamics.  If you're not in favor of politicians interfering with market dynamics, you should already want those tax breaks gone anyway.