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All Forum Posts by: Molly Paprota

Molly Paprota has started 5 posts and replied 27 times.

Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Molly Paprota:

Hi, I am NY-based looking for purchase a long term/BRRR in Cleveland, and want to hear your experience with out of state investing.


Are most out of state investors closing on properties without doing physical walkthroughs? Same with rehab, are you rehabbing properties without physically being on-site to oversee the process? This feels risky to me, but this is my first purchase so would love to hear how you've handled an out of state investment. Thanks!


 I know dozens of investors that have purchased 100s of properties in Cleveland and have never been there. Its ALL about your team 

Thank you for this! Do you know of any team members that you could refer me to? I haven’t yet found a team I can trust and rely on from NY. 
Quote from @Mark Cruse:

This business has a vastly large failure rate for a reason. Now the current trend seems to be STR or invest out of state in something you have never seen. Everyone seems to follow the same paths as the new fad or cool thing to try. I have no idea why people are passing out advice to new investors influencing them to go this route. Of course, we all know itś some that can make it work here and there, but most investors fail just in their local markets. With all these damn moving parts, contingencies, shadiness, dishonest people, hidden traps and multiple possible points of failure, why do people go there? I understand why those auditioning to be someone´s on the ground team embrace this but I have no idea why experienced investors do. Failure is the most likely outcome even for people in the game forever. For newbies, maybe you will be that one power ball winner but look at the odds. I repeated over and over; if you have no ability or desire to lay your own eyes on an asset you plan to sink hundreds of thousands of dollars into, you dont need it. Its not a game and the sexiness of HGTV is entertainment BS. This business is hard and if you dont want to take time to understand or depend on others to it for you, I suggest you just find a high yield mutual fund. Its not 5Lynx or something you can pick up and put down with ease. There is a story every 5 seconds of someone losing tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars. As a senior investor, under no circumstance will I EVER provide advice to any new investor to blindly put their money in some place they have never been to.

Thank you for this feedback, I appreciate it. I am going to Cleveland to see the properties in person, I agree!

Post: Looking for my core team

Molly PaprotaPosted
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I am a NYC-based investor in the Cleveland market. I will be in Cleveland this Friday and Saturday and really want to maximize my time there by meeting up with pros face to face. I am looking to build my boots on the ground team that I can trust from NY. This includes an agent, contractor, property manager, inspector, etc. 

If you are in the Cleveland area looking for new investors to work with let me know, would love to chat further and get the ball rolling and meet up while i’m in town. 

Thanks and have a great day.  

Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Molly Paprota:

Hi, I am NY-based looking for purchase a long term/BRRR in Cleveland, and want to hear your experience with out of state investing.


Are most out of state investors closing on properties without doing physical walkthroughs? Same with rehab, are you rehabbing properties without physically being on-site to oversee the process? This feels risky to me, but this is my first purchase so would love to hear how you've handled an out of state investment. Thanks!

 Yes I know dozens and dozens of investors that have purchased renovated and rented 100s and 100s and 100s of properties in the Cleveland market without ever going there. Its all about their team in place 

Thanks Bob! How would you recommend finding the right team? Is it normal to have only an inspector do a walkthrough and not a realtor?
Quote from @Eliott Elias:

I flip property sight unseen, but I've also walked 100's of properties. Don't buy sight unseen without the experience and a solid team. 


 Thank you! I've walked through a couple of properties in a different state, but none in Cleveland yet. I think I'll go just to be sure. How would you recommend finding a solid team? I have a realtor, who has connected me to a potential property manager and inspector, but none of these are people I know personally, and they are all connected to the same person. My realtor does not do walkthroughs so I don't really feel comfortable putting my trust into a team who I have never met in person and who can't show me the property.

Quote from @Leroy K. Williams:

With all of the technology at our fingertips why would anyone have to physically walk through a property?  As an investor the number one thing you need is a competent person in the area who wants to help you succeed.  You find the person who understands what your goals are and then allow their eyes to become your own. Astronomers and Astrophysicists don't have to fly into outer space to understand the planets and stars billions of light years away, surely you can get a good picture of what is happening a few hundred miles away.  


 Hi, thanks for this! I agree with that, How do you find that right person to trust? My realtor does not do walk throughs and I don't know anyone in the area personally.

Quote from @Delbert Standifer:

@Molly Paprota

May sound funny but it’s really all about your team. I have to 6 out of state properties. The first 2 I went to go see after my confidence/ experience grew I didn’t feel a need to see every property that I purchased.

That makes sense! I think Id feel most comfortable at least seeing my first one in person. How did you go about finding a solid team?
Quote from @Olivia Grabka:

@Molly Paprota

1. We have completed 2 dozen projects in the past 30 months

2. We own 24 units (all of them BRRRs)

3. Between me and my two partners we have over 800 total transactions as agents

We would NEVER buy out of state sight unseen. Don't do it.

Thank you! So even if your agent was willing to facetime you or send videos, you would be sure to physically walk through the space yourself?

Quote from @Steven Goldman:

@MollyPaprota  I always suggest that you assemble a team familiar with Cleveland to work with on the purchase, finance and management of the property. Than you can begin your search with the knowledge that you have the people in place you can trust and depend on. If possible you should take a trip to Cleveland look at some neighborhoods and  properties and meet the team members you are going to rely on. I would start small and learn the marketplace and also test the capacity of your network. If the first deal works smoothly than you can tackle a higher value project.  Fortune favors the prepared. Good luck and keep moving forward. 

 Thank you @Steven Goldman, this is great advice. I think I will take a trip and be sure I have a solid team- it's a bit harder to get a good read on my potential team all the way from NY.

Quote from @Theresa Harris:

Buying out of state is a good option for some living in expensive markets.  I would not buy a property sight unseen.  At a minimum have someone you know and trust (not a realtor or PM) walk through it and video it with you, so you can ask questions.  Take a long weekend and fly in to look at places. Make sure you are working with a good realtor who knows what you want and has places lined up for you to look at and is willing to spend time looking at places with you.  The price of a flight and hotel is worth it.

 Hi @Theresa Harris thanks for this! I think I'd feel better seeing the place, especially for my first buy. I will most likely take a trip and do the walkthroughs.