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All Forum Posts by: Mike Kehoe

Mike Kehoe has started 9 posts and replied 75 times.

Post: Cash Partner Deal Structure

Mike Kehoe
Pro Member
Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 79
  • Votes 79
Originally posted by @Ryan Zomorodi:

Some flips I've structured with my cash partners look like this,

-They put up 85% of the total investment in cash. 

-I put up 15% (Often raised by friends/family in exchange for profit % or interest rate).

-We both get 7% preferred return on our capital. 

-Split profits 50/50

For the 15%, I'll offer 10-12% annualized interest or 50% of my side of profits to the capital source. 

Thanks, Ryan! Have you ever used four cash partners to equally make up the total investment in cash? 25% of the total cash needed per investor? Each investor would be offered 10-12% annualized interest? Just curious as I'm beginning to raise capital and many of my potential providers don't have enough cash to fund 85% of the deal but could do something like 25%. Of course, they could be the 15% partner that you discussed in your example, but in this instance, I'm thinking about how to move forward with these smaller cash partners while we're hunting for a larger cash partner that can put up 85% on future deals. 

Hope this makes sense. Thanks again for your help. 

Post: Cash Partner Deal Structure

Mike Kehoe
Pro Member
Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 79
  • Votes 79
Originally posted by @Greg Dickerson:

I agree with Ed. Just use Investor cash to fund the entire deal and pay simple interest at the back end when you sell or refi. 

Also you never want to use investor’s cash as a second or for equity when you are using hard money. that’s a dangerous situation to put your investor in. Hard money is unforgiving.

 Thanks, Greg! Your help is much appreciated. 

Post: Cash Partner Deal Structure

Mike Kehoe
Pro Member
Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 79
  • Votes 79
Originally posted by @Ed Matson:

For funding flips with private lenders, I think the simplest and a very equitable structure is to simply do it with debt. Since your partner is experienced, going with private money may well be an option vs. hard money loans. Typically a private lender will be looking for a return of about 8% and he will want to be in first position. After several loans from a private lender, you all may want to expand the relationship by making him an equity partner. That structure is much more complicated.  How much should the equity partner get?  What is their proportionate contribution to the success of the project? 

Thanks, Ed! This is very helpful. 8% APR or 8% for the length of the project (about 4 months in our case)?

Post: Cash Partner Deal Structure

Mike Kehoe
Pro Member
Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 79
  • Votes 79

Hi all!

I've recently become a full-time investor and am new to Bigger Pockets. I've partnered with a deal provider that's been investing for over a decade and has always used his own money/credit lines. The deals I've done so far are with my own money as well.

My partner wholesales, flips, and also BRRRs single family and small multi-units in Chicago. He does a substantial amount of deals with his own money, but I've come on to help grow the business by connecting us with cash partners. He has four full-time GC's that only work for him, so we have sufficient workforce to do more deals. To do so, we need more capital.

I'm currently reading Raising Private Capital by Matt Faircloth, and have gotten great information from it, but I wanted to throw these questions out to the BP community as we are soon meeting with potential cash partners:

How should we structure deals with our cash partners? Our projects will be less than six months.

Do we give equity on each deal and allocate 20% of net to the cash provider?

Or should we offer an APR on their money and keep rolling profits and initial investment over into the next deal? What APR would you give? How have you structured that before?

Do we offer more if they are in second position, only providing the downpayment for the hard money loan? What are examples that you're doing?

Thank you so much in advance! Please excuse my ignorance if I've posed some of these questions and scenarios wrong. I'm learning!

- Mike 

Post: I dropped out of college last week.

Mike Kehoe
Pro Member
Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 79
  • Votes 79

Congrats, Michael! I've learned 100x more in the "real world" than I ever did in college. 

My advice is to continue to educate yourself on your trade, but also emotional intelligence. Also, keep the partying to a minimum. Much of my early 20's were wasted because I was hungover a lot of the time. Take care of your mind, body, and spirit. Make sure to carve out time to recharge (gym, therapy, whatever works for you) on a regular basis. 

Good luck! 

Mike