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All Forum Posts by: Mitch Messer

Mitch Messer has started 73 posts and replied 2080 times.

Post: How do we analyze the markets and deals outside of the US?

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,227
  • Votes 1,775

@Ngoc Vo Welcome to BiggerPockets!

The good news is that the financial metrics you've read about are universal and not at all country specific.

The bad news is that Germany may just not be a good cash-flow market, compared to the U.S.

But then, few markets are.

That's why you find so many Germans and Australians and Spaniards and others trying so hard to find great deals in the U.S.

And, even in the States, there are plenty of sub-markets where properties routinely fail the so-called "1% rule."

My advice is to keep searching, see the whole gameboard, and let the financials be your guide to great opportunities!

They are definitely out there!

Post: Good cash deal? - Multifamily Analysis

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,227
  • Votes 1,775
Quote from @Gino Barbaro:

@Jerry Zhang

What is the median income of the area, and the unit mixes of the apartments? I would look into market comps for value and rents. I would also do a lease audit to check for delinquency, and how many of these tenants were just leased to, and how many are actually paying. Heads in beds are good, but are those heads paying

I would ask this seller why is he selling. From a pure numbers perspective, it appears to be a very good deal. I would love to see you wholesale it to an operator and you keep a piece.

I know a few students who own and operate in NM, and I can make an intro for you

Gino


Hey Gino, I reached out to you on LinkedIn. Can't DM here.

Post: Good cash deal? - Multifamily Analysis

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,227
  • Votes 1,775

Hey @Jerry Zhang, congrats on finding an interesting deal!

I recommend you check your numbers: If current NOI is $37K and they're asking $500K cash, your cash-on-cash return at time of closing can't be more than 7.4%, and that's assuming an all-cash purchase, ZERO CapEx, ZERO renovations and ZERO closing costs. All very unlikely.

Also, I'd be highly concerned about that 18% vacancy rate you'd be buying into! That's NOT my definition of "turnkey!" Be sure understand the reason for it, so you're not digging yourself into a deep hole here.

Lastly, remember that cap rate is a measure of the local market. Without knowing the cap rates of other MFHs nearby, there's not much objective insight to be gained there.

Good luck!

Post: Any Easy way to Get ESCROW Impound Funds BACK - when SUBJECT 2 Loan is paid off ???

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,227
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Quote from @Michael Morrongiello:
Mitch - A Good Strategy however;
Can an ENTITY (your corporation) be designated as AIF - Attorney in Fact for INDIVIDUAL borrowers who's loan is being paid off? (where you acquired title to their property SUBJECT 2 their loan)

We've been told that ONLY a PERSON (an individual) having the capacity to contract is QUALIFIED to act as an Attorney in Fact for an individual. That seems to preclude
YOUR company from acting a Attorney in Fact on their behalf?

When the Loan Servicer / Bank is paid off they will issue a CHECK to THEM (the original borrowers)

SO, assume the AIF is designating YOU (as an individual AIF) to act on their behalf
then YOU as an individual endorse the check as their AIF over to YOUR company's Name?

"Pay to the order of < MY COMPANY NAME> by virtue of the Power of Attorney in Fact granted to by  

THOUGHTS ???


That's a fair question, so I went back and checked. The PoA designates our company as AIF.

Now, it's possible that back during the original closing we had the borrower sign TWO PoAs: One designating our company, the other designating an individual representing the company.

Our original PoA was prepared in consultation with an attorney, but that was done well over a decade ago!

That said, the PoAs we have used, and this is across several dozen sub2 deals, has been with the company as AIF.

Never had a problem getting a lender check to clear in over 20 years.

Post: Multi-family Portfolio in Augusta, GA

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,227
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@Jaime Powell Can you walk us through the pricing philosophy here?

For example, 107 Ellis Street will deliver about $20K in Gross Income once stabilized. After Operating Expenses are deducted, we're looking at about $13K in NOI.

Purchased for cash at the full asking price of $244,900, and assuming NO CapEx or renovations, that's about a 5.3% Cash-on-Cash return.

What am I missing?

Post: Any Easy way to Get ESCROW Impound Funds BACK - when SUBJECT 2 Loan is paid off ???

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,227
  • Votes 1,775
Quote from @Michael Morrongiello:

BACKGROUND:
Bought a property SUBJECT 2 an existing 1st lien (lets say serviced by Shellpoint) years ago.
Loan is NOT in our name but in the name of the original borrowers. This account includes ESCROW IMPOUNDS being collected for the payments of taxes and insurance bills as their occur. We have made payments on the loan that is NOT in our names.

SITUATION:

SOLD the home under a LEASE OPTION (or it could be even a WRAP AROUND Mortgage (or Deed of Trust) type of sale.
They PAY US (on our LEASE or the Wrap Around Note) and We pay the underlying 1st lien lender (serviced by Shellpoint)

PROBLEM:

The Value of the property has gone up a lot. Now the Tenant Buyers / or Wrap Around Note payors are REFINANCING and getting ALL new
financing which means the underlying Note which we took over SUBJECT 2 is being PAID OFF in FULL.

The 1st lien lender REFUSES to return the funds ($$) currently being held in the loan escrow account to US - since we are NOT the actual Borrowers named on the Note they are servicing. The insist that once the account is paid off in FULL, those funds MUST go to the original borrowers. NOTE: We have a specific POA - power of attorney given to us to act on behalf of the loan borrowers with regard to THIS property and their loan. We also have a written agreement stating that the ORIGINAL Borrowers have relinquished any rights they may have to the escrow impound funds that exist or may exist in the Escrow Impound Account. The Lender does not care! THEY REFUSE to issue checks to anyone other than the ORIGINAL borrowers on the Note they are servicing.

Any thoughts on HOW TO - be able to EASILY get these escrow impound funds (which are thousands of $$) disbursed to us ???
I am SURE this has come up with many others when an existing loan that was taken over SUBJECT 2 that loan is paid off.

Hi @Michael Morrongiello!

As you've seen, you're not going to get the lender to change their policy.

Fortunately, you don't need to!

If you have a properly written power-of-attorney (POA) authorizing you to manage on behalf of the borrower, then you should be fine.

Here's what we've done:

1. Have the lender issue the escrow refund check in the name of the borrower. (We would have previously updated the mailing address for the loan so the check comes to us, not the borrower!)

2. Take the check to OUR company's bank and show them the POA and any other supporting documentation.

3. Endorse the check as follows: "<Borrower_Name> by virtue of Power of Attorney and Attorney-In-Fact by <Company_Name>"

4. Deposit the check

Sometimes the banker will want a copy of the POA for their records, which we'll gladly provide. (It also helps if the banker knows you, knows what your business does, and you have positive bank account history.)

Hope this helps!

Post: What do you think of this subject-to deal in Metro Houston?

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,227
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Quote from @Dani Beit-Or:

Subject-to deal: 

Cash required: $35k + 295k existing mortgage + 5k in misc = $335k for a 350k 2021 house.

Pros

2021

35k needed

3% int. rate

Good schools

Good location 

CONS

$145/m in HOA

Cashflow is tight

Mortgage Info

Last Recording Date 10/6/2021

Loan Type CONVENTIONAL

Original Loan Amount $319,105

Loan Term 361 Months

Est. Interest Rate 2.99 %

Est. Loan Payment $1,341 

Est. Loan Balance $295,000

Loan Maturity Date 11/1/2051

Property Specifications:

SFH

Bedrooms 4

Bathrooms 3

Square Feet 2316

Year Built 2021

Garage Size 2

Schools Rating (scale 3-30, 30 is best) 18

Lot size (sq ft) 7,631.0

Purchase price: $330,000

Market Value: $350,000

Estimated Financial AssumptionsMonthlyYearly
Rent (upper)*$2,350$28,200
Rent (lower)*$2,250$27,000
Property Taxes$425$5,100
Insurance$200$2,400
Repairs$65$780
Property Management Monthly (%)0.00%
Property Management Monthly ($)$75$900
Leasing Fee$95.80$1,150
HOA$146$1,752
Vacancy Rate4.00%
Total Fixed Expenses$1,096$13,150
Total Expenses (Fixed + Mortgage)$2,620$31,437

Hey @Dani Beit-Or, as a straight rental the cash flow in this deal isn't just "tight" — it's non-existent!

And that's even using the high rent estimate, a low vacancy rate (8% would be more realistic), and a very low property management expense (10% of rents is pretty standard), just for starters.

If you personally were going to live in this property, it would likely be a slam-dunk...

... but, as an investment, it's a money-loser!

Post: 8% for vacancy AND repairs?

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
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Quote from @Ivana Ivanovic:

Hi y'all. Just starting out here. Is this a low number for both vacancy and repairs? Looking at new builds (brand new or recent), vetted for major repairs (there will be none presumably, some have a builders' warranty), that I will potentially own for 10-ish years. 

Thanks!

@Ivana Ivanovic I would say 8% is low to cover both vacancy AND repairs.

If you expect to incur just one month of rent lost every 12 months, you'd be looking at an 8.33% (1/12 of gross annual income) vacancy rate.

And, even for a brand-new build, you're going to have some repair/maintenance costs as long as you've got human tenants. Things will inevitably break, jam, clog, drain, build up, wear down, etc. over the course of a year. For that alone, you're probably looking at 5-7% for repairs.   

Post: New investor interested in multifamily properties

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,227
  • Votes 1,775
Quote from @Shane Cordrey:
Quote from @Mitch Messer:
Quote from @Shane Cordrey:

Im a new investor trying to get into multifamily property investing and long term rentals.


Welcome, Shane!

What specific markets are you considering?


 Thanks Mitch.  I am looking into markets that have a military base near by.  Any active duty base is preferable.    

We used to have a similar philosophy ... and then we went to live in Clovis, New Mexico for a few years! 😂

Plenty of lovely folks there, plus it's where Cannon Air Force Base is located, but we soon discovered that just having a base nearby didn't necessarily make for a lively real estate market.

Shortly after that, we adopted our MUCHAS criteria:

M - Near a military base

U - Has at least one college or university

C - Has a Costco or equivalent

H - Has a hospital ranked at least as a Level II Trauma Center

A - Has a commercial airport

S - Has a Sprouts (organic grocery) or equivalent

This has led us to look at often-overlooked markets like Lubbock, Texas and Augusta, Georgia.

May be worth a look for you as well!

Post: New investor interested in multifamily properties

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,227
  • Votes 1,775
Quote from @Shane Cordrey:

Im a new investor trying to get into multifamily property investing and long term rentals.


Welcome, Shane!

What specific markets are you considering?