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All Forum Posts by: Michael Kevorkian

Michael Kevorkian has started 13 posts and replied 52 times.

Post: Northlake Illinois Single Family as-is flip

Michael KevorkianPosted
  • Realtor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 103
  • Votes 44

Investment Info:

Single-family residence other investment in Northlake.

Purchase price: $90,000
Cash invested: $1
Sale price: $167,000

Delinquent tax sale lead. Marketed direct to owner via postcard mailing. They called in and after several months of back and forth I finally got the contract signed. The property had a tenant in it so there was a bit of time to wait for them to first try to get a mortgage to buy it, then when that fell apart, it was listed on the MLS and sold right away in as-is condition.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

The price and neighborhood

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Direct mail and over the phone negotiations

How did you finance this deal?

Hard money loan

How did you add value to the deal?

Bought it right

What was the outcome?

Sold for a good profit

Post: Pilsen 6 Unit Wholesale Deal

Michael KevorkianPosted
  • Realtor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 103
  • Votes 44

Investment Info:

Large multi-family (5+ units) wholesale investment in Chicago.

Purchase price: $565,000
Cash invested: $5,000
Sale price: $615,000

Wholesale deal brought in by a Realtor who knows I can close fast. I signed the contract then emailed the property to my buyers list. Got multiple offers on it and sold it within 24 hours to the end buyer.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Pilsen is a very hot neighborhood and my office is also there so I am very familiar with the market.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Realtor brought it off-market to me

How did you finance this deal?

N/A Wholesale deal

How did you add value to the deal?

Bought it right and kept it off-market

What was the outcome?

Sold the property to another investor

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Should have asked for more money

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Yes... a Realtor

Post: Single-family fix & flip Chicago Heights

Michael KevorkianPosted
  • Realtor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 103
  • Votes 44

Investment Info:

Single-family residence fix & flip investment in Chicago Heights.

Purchase price: $55,000
Cash invested: $50,000
Sale price: $160,000

Bought the house direct from the owner. Had it sold as a wholesale deal but the buyer walked before closing. Bought the property and listed on the MLS in as-is condition to sell to another investor. Got a couple of offers but none that made sense to take vs. doing the rehab. We are starting the renovation in the next two weeks and then will list it for sale on the MLS to sell to a retail buyer.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Good neighborhood and exceptional purchase price.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Direct mail to seller

How did you finance this deal?

Cash

How did you add value to the deal?

Starting renovation

What was the outcome?

About to begin rehab

Post: Burr Ridge Single Family Flip

Michael KevorkianPosted
  • Realtor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 103
  • Votes 44

Investment Info:

Single-family residence fix & flip investment in Burr Ridge.

Purchase price: $145,000
Cash invested: $125,000
Sale price: $350,000

Moderate cosmetic rehab of a single family home. Renovated interior and exterior as well as made repairs to mechanical systems as necessary. Currently for sale.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

This was a direct with owner purchase and it needed a tremendous amount of updating. I knew we could get a good deal because of the condition of the property.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Cold calling

How did you finance this deal?

Cash

How did you add value to the deal?

I renovated the property inside and out.

What was the outcome?

Currently the property is actively for sale to a retail buyer.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

I went over budget quite a bit on this one but I think the finished product couldn't have been achieved short of what I spent on the renovation.

Post: Written proposal for review by Attorney and Probate Court ???

Michael KevorkianPosted
  • Realtor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 103
  • Votes 44

@Steve G. typically you would handle the offer process the same as any other seller. You prepare the contract, remember home court advantage here, prepare your contract and send it over. If they have modifications and or changes, if they're reasonable and you can live with them you can negotiate the terms in your contract. I always use my contract which is written heavily in favor of the buyer when I am purchasing something. Even if I get called out by the sellers attorney and they want me to use a standard form contract I am willing to do it but half of the time nobody ever brings it up.

You always need to leave yourself attorney and inspection provisions as far as I am concerned. It is a way for you to get out of the deal if you need to and time for your attorney to review the contract if necessary. It is a safety net for you as a buyer and a seller and overall good practice.

Step 1. You prepare the contract, offer, purchase and sale agreement and send it to them... if they write it, they will most likely write it in their favor. 

Step 2. Make sure you or your acquisitions person has access to the property to do your inspection.

Step 3. Then submit your refundable earnest money deposit. (Refundable when you're the buyer, non refundable when you are the seller).

Step 4. Either close on the property or sell your contract and you're done.

Obviously there are several steps that can come between or be added to what I listed but my list is the basic process.

Make sense? I have attached a link to a copy of the contract I use, just CLICK HERE to get it. I'll email you the password so you can access it... have your attorney review it and make any necessary modifications necessary.

Post: Written proposal for review by Attorney and Probate Court ???

Michael KevorkianPosted
  • Realtor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 103
  • Votes 44

@Justin Fernandez seems like a probate lead to me.

@Steve G.  this is very common and I get calls like this all of the time. Basically what they're asking for is an offer on the propert... pretty standard to everything we would do under normal circumstances except that they are asking you to present your offer to / through the attorney so they can present it to the heirs and then wrap up the probate case in court. Again I will put the caveat in here that I am not an attorney, I am not giving legal advice and I suggest you hire a competent, licensed professional for any legal and or tax related matters. I am a licensed real estate professional and on that I am speaking from my experience. Again in short, they just want an offer sent  to the attorney so they can present it to their clients, the heirs to the estate which is in probate. 

 Congratulations on getting the lead and good luck with putting this deal together. I hope this helps, let me know if you have any other questions.

Post: Is wholesaling legal in Illinois? (Chicago Suburbs)

Michael KevorkianPosted
  • Realtor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 103
  • Votes 44

@Steve G. That's wonderful! I'm so happy to hear you're doing some deals and truly appreciate the compliment on the podcasts. It's been a while and it is definately on my to do list to get back to. I have a couple of coaching students who work in Florida so I will put you in touch with them in a private email. One of them is doing a BIG amount of business and now transitioned from wholesaling to rehabs and is doing 2 or 3 deals right now (I forgot how many) but he's an awesome guy to know and work with.

@Jerry Stanford True to the word my friend. My attorney once told me years ago, "itent is a tough thing to prove". One thing I know being a broker and having a license all these years is that in a very loose translation, brokerage is defined as charging a fee for services provided. So if I as a broker list a property for sale for a percentage of the sale price or a fee whether that is upfront or at closing or anywhere in between, I am brokering a deal. I get paid to bring a buyer and seller together (usually from the seller but it can be from either or both sides) and I usually have no skin in the game. If on the other hand I am the buyer on the contract, have put down earnest money (even if it's only $10.00) and then find a partner, investor relative or other buyer who wants it, if my contract is written properly and it is disclosed (in the contract) that I can assign it and may not be the one who closes.... then I would feel confident in my approach to wholesaling the deal via my equitable interest in the property. Mind you most of these rules apply to residential deals as commercial is a whole other animal and much looser since the powers that be generally feel that a buyer and seller of commercial real estate are somewhat savvy investors.

@Dale Stevens I'm with you... there is so much left up to interpretation that one can get lost in the shuffle. When I work with people on the "Real Estate Investing" process, I start by letting them all know one thing, "We may be starting as a wholesaler but wholesaling is not a sustainable business model". If you do not learn the old gas station adage: "When is the last time you went to a gas station that only sold gas"? (In other words multiple streams of income) then you will eventually stall and either evolve out of necessity or become extinct. Wholesaling is a good start, low barrier of entry, low cost (and profit) but a place to cut your teeth. From there one has to learn, grow and do better until they find the niche that works best for them. I am primarily a rehabber/builder now days. In the next 10-15 years... I may let others do the chasing and be 100% hard money or JV partner, who knows? The problem with wholesaling in a nutshell is you'll notice most of the people in the space don't hold any inventory. You blast to your list, 10 wholesalers pick it up, add $10K to your deal and send it to their list, that happens 1 or 2 more times down the line and all of a sudden there is no deal anymore and it turned into a daisy chain of crap where no one knows how to get the deal and get paid if they could find the originator. It's a mess with all the BS programs that are out there "selling the secret to wholesaling in under 11 hours" or whatever else they can conjure up. It's like the diet pill commercials for real estate investor wannabes. You know what I'm talking about, "take this pill, eat like ****, don't exercise, sleep 12 hours a day and you'll still lose weight". People who buy that stuff are the same people who are too lazy to call and ask for a refund and these companies know it.

My advice to wholesalers.... forget all the BS and nonsense about "co-wholesaling", flipping houses from Beirut with a laptop and a hookah or making a 6 figure income working in your underwear and never having to leave your house. This is a business so be prepared to work, this is a business and who makes the most money in any business model? People or companies who control all or the majority of the process. In other words, when you spend some money on marketing to generate a lead and IT'S YOURS then you have exclusivity. NOW you have something worth some money to sell. Don't think that recycling other peoples inventory will make you rich, it won't end well for you. Have your own list or start building it, get aggressive and use your "WIT" (Whatever It Takes) to get a deal sold.

Anyway... I rambled, thanks for all your input gents, I would love to talk further on this or any other subject you like, anytime. Have a great evening.

Post: Is wholesaling legal in Illinois? (Chicago Suburbs)

Michael KevorkianPosted
  • Realtor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 103
  • Votes 44

@Steve G. Long time no talk.... how have you been? I hope things are going great for you! @Edward Mitchell let me start with the old CYA and say "I am not an attorney... I am not giving legal advice... I advise you to seek legal advice... wear your seat belt and eat your vegetables". Now that we got that out of the way.... I am under no impression that wholesaling is illegal in Illinois or any state for that matter assuming you are doing things right. Recently I came across this article on the Illinois Association of Realtors website about wholesaling and even listing that wholesale deal with a broker in the MLS. Read it as I think it will or should answer many questions you may have.

"3. I am a broker representing a buyer/developer. He is now under a contract to purchase the land for subdivision and he wants to "pre-market" the lots before closing on the land transaction. May he list them on MLS, or otherwise advertise them for sale?

The important fact to remember here is that title does not transfer till the purchase of the land is complete. In other words, the developer/buyer cannot transfer good title to the land, or any part thereof, to any subsequent buyer until the developer/buyer becomes the owner of the property. Title does not transfer until the land transaction closes. As any real estate practitioner knows, a lot can happen between the time a contract is formed and the closing of the transaction. (This is true especially in subdivision development where the developer must undoubtedly meet requirements of the Illinois Plat Act and any other applicable local regulations before the land can be successfully subdivided, which specific requirements will not be addressed for purposes of this question).

On the other hand, the developer could advertise what he does have for sale. At this point, on the facts above, he owns only rights in the contract to purchase the land. He could transfer those rights to a third party (assuming provisions in the land purchase contract would allow this). He, along with your help as his real estate representative, could probably even market this in some manner. However, you must keep in mind your duties under the License Act to avoid any advertising that would be in any way false, deceptive or misleading. Thus, you would want to be certain when doing any advertising that the ads contain clear language that sufficiently explains the situation. You might even do an ad campaign soliciting interest should the land transaction be consummated. This becomes the developer's business decision based on your advice and input from his other advisors.

Developers sometimes handle "pre-marketing" by taking deposits and contracts that are specifically conditioned upon the consummation of the first land sale from potential lot buyers. In addition, developers have actually sold options to potential lot buyers contingent upon consummation of the land sale.

Regarding your question about listing on the MLS, there are a couple concerns. First, under the License Act (and probably MLS rules), you must have the written consent of the owner to advertise the property for sale. Keep in mind, on these facts, you do not yet represent the owner. You represent the contract buyer. Second, if the land was listed with another brokerage company, that firm may have the exclusive right to market the property for sale pursuant to an exclusive right to sell agreement. As a result, without some agreement with the current listing broker, you could not expose the land (or subdivided lots) to the MLS until title transfers and your developer client owns the land.

The situation might also be that the developer went directly to the landowner that was not represented by another broker to effect the purchase of the land. In that case, you probably need to get permission of the landowner to list the land as available for sale. The terms of the purchase contract between the developer and the landowner may actually contain the necessary permission to list, so you should check that contract for such a provision."

Post: REAL ESTATE INVESTOR WEBSITE COMPANY

Michael KevorkianPosted
  • Realtor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 103
  • Votes 44

@Lily Boudon  you have got a ton of great feedback here.... thanks everyone for such wonderful insights.

While I am not overly familiar with either service I will tell you that my experience as a wholesaler and rehabber and a website haven't been the best. Overall I know you absolutely NEED to have a web presence in this day and age and if for nothing else to show the world or your prospects that you are somewhat progressive and up to the times. The one thing I do not personally believe is that a squeeze page or website alone will magically make you successful as a real estate investor. 

You need leads to get phone calls to get appointments to make offers (and get some accepted) to sell your contracts or buy the properties right? I think that is something we can all agree on. That being said, I look at it like this, I am certain there is someone out there who has never spoken to a prospect and put a deal together but in my world, you need to talk with someone to build rapport, go out and meet them whenever possible and see the property (also whenever possible) to really "do" the work necessary to build your business and strengthen your sales and people skills.

In short, get leads (website, direct mail, door knocking, bandit signs, realtors.....whatever) and don't be afraid to call them and talk with them to take the interaction to the next phase which is the meeting, viewing the property or whatever it is in the chain of events.

Good luck and please let me know how it all goes.

Hey there, Michael Kevorkian here, and I want to remind you to get registered for the FREE Wholesaling Real Estate 101 webinar I am hosting Thursday December 18th at 6:00pm CST!

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Thanks and I look forward to hearing from you when we all come together on the webinar on Thursday.