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All Forum Posts by: Lee Mast

Lee Mast has started 10 posts and replied 28 times.

Post: Subject 2 advice requested.

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Lee Mast:

Hi. 

I have an 8 unit apartment building I am considering making an offer to purchase with a subject 2/owner finance hybrid (Pace Morby stuff).

The property is currently jointly owned by the two children after their dad passed away. The mortgage is still in their dads name. 

Is there any additional implications/risk of attempting to purchase this property Subject 2 vs purchasing from an owner with the mortgage in that owners name? 

What kind of questions should I be asking? 

Has anyone here actually successfully found the mysterious "Due On Sale Clause insurance" referenced by Pace Morby on his Bigger Pockets podcast appearance on BP show#527 on Nov 4, 2021? 

That insurance won't do you any good if you can find it. It's wishful thinking.
Anyway, check and see who the title's name is in. It may be that probate hasn't been completed and the siblings don't legally own it yet.

Assuming that probate is taken care, doing owner financing or subject to are great ways to go. Here is a link of what to avoid:

https://www.biggerpockets.com/...


   due on sale insurance Double LOL   get real.. such BS. although i think a commercial lender is far more likely to accelerate when a transfer of title has occurred than a resi mortgage.. out of the few hundred sub toos we did I only had one or two resi notes called.  sub too is not knew its just guys that are good at marketing and being gurus are packaging it and make it sound like they invested it LOL


 Don't "Get Real" to me! Brandon Turner and Bigger Pockets endorse this guy Pace Morby who they've had on the show several times and he claimed it was a real thing. Now that I've done a little digging I agree with you on the double LOL Get real! However, I think I was justified in asking the question when a trusted platform such as BP allowed this guy to promote his BS and as far as I know, has had no follow up. 

Post: Subject 2 advice requested.

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24

@Account Closed 

Good article. Thanks for this. I think Pace Morby makes it sound like a slam dunk easy-peesy-nothing-can-go-wrong "I do one every day" (don't know if you heard him on the BP Podcast I mentioned in my post). 

Point 3 "you can really mess up the sellers credit if you miss a payment..." In this case, the mortgage is still in the deceased dads name... I'm assuming that would eliminate this point of concern?

Point 4 "If the seller files bankruptcy..."  Is this still a concern with the mortgage being in the deceased dads name? Or if title has been transferred to the kids and one of them filed bankruptcy this could become an issue? 

Point 5 " If there is a fire..." Is there anything out of the ordinary to "setting up insurance" on a Subject To purchased property? Normally my bank would be the lien holder on my insurance for a covered property. How do you do this with Subject To?

Point 6 - As far as I know there is no financial "distress" involved in this decision for the kids to sell. One is a doctor, the other is a business owner and they just have no interest in being land lords. 

Point 8 "Jail???" wow that's crazy! But of course, I don't plan on missing payment. Fingers crossed!

Points 9 and 10: Can I avoid these concerns by negotiating fairly and using my attorney for all contracts and NOT using a Quit Claim Deed? 

Points 12 and 13 - Lender: Can I ask the sellers to do an address change with their bank and have all documents sent to me? I'm assuming since the loan is still in their dads name, all mortgage statements would be sent in his name? So perhaps just change everything to my address as though he lives with me? Creepy I know... he's dead. 

Thanks for your advice. 

Post: Subject 2 advice requested.

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24

Hi. 

I have an 8 unit apartment building I am considering making an offer to purchase with a subject 2/owner finance hybrid (Pace Morby stuff).

The property is currently jointly owned by the two children after their dad passed away. The mortgage is still in their dads name. 

Is there any additional implications/risk of attempting to purchase this property Subject 2 vs purchasing from an owner with the mortgage in that owners name? 

What kind of questions should I be asking? 

Has anyone here actually successfully found the mysterious "Due On Sale Clause insurance" referenced by Pace Morby on his Bigger Pockets podcast appearance on BP show#527 on Nov 4, 2021? 

Post: Finding Multi-Family Agent Expert

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24

Hey Austin, check out Jared Reimer with Elevations Real Estate. He is a real estate investor as well as a real estate agent. Let him know I sent you. PM me if you want his cell number but a quick google search should bring him up. 

Post: In Search of an Investor Friendly Accountant - CO or online

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24

I am looking to consult with a Tax accountant well versed in all things Real Estate investing. I'm located in Colorado but own properties in both Colorado and NY state. Preferably a Colorado accountant but I suppose I could use anyone since most things can be done online these days. 

Who's that tax accountant that saves you thousands and knows everything about Real Estate tax law? Please send me a message!!! Thanks! 

Post: Tenants Did not pay Deposit

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24

@Xela Batchelder I would inspect the apartments and if they are taking care of the place, leave well enough alone and slowly work on raising the rents over time. Having good long term tenants is more important than that security deposit... after all, we've all heard horror stories of tenants trashing a place far beyond what a security deposit can cover.

Post: Brandon Turner Nails it on the COVID-19 Rent Due Advice

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24

There are various ways they can pay by Credit card including Cozy and Plastiq, PayPal Venno and maybe others. That would be my first suggestion. So far I haven't heard from anyone so I'm leaving well enough alone 

Post: Goal setting podcast? Can't find it!

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24

I listened to a couples goal setting podcast on what I thought was the Bigger Pockets podcast with Brandon Turner but now I can't find it! Want to listen to it again! I think it was with Scott ? and his wife? Thought it was a recent podcast... this couple does goal setting retreats... anyone know what I'm talking about and can point me in the right direction?

Post: Is it possible to get 80% LTV on a Triplex Investment Property?

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24
Originally posted by @Matty Foley:

@Lee Mast I see many conflicting responses, but here is your answer: Yes it is possible to get 80% LTV but there are many factors to consider. All of the Community Banks I know (and I've worked for a few) set internal LTV limits at 75% for investment properties (Triplex or not). 80% would be a policy exception, which Banks try to avoid as much possible; mostly because loans with policy exceptions will be looked at with more scrutiny by the examiners. Higher LTV also = higher risk. With that said, I've certainly done my share at 80%. *In my personal experience, it always helps if you can give something in return to help justify the higher LTV. That may be bringing over you entire deposit relationship to the bank (community banks lifeblood is deposits to find loans), or taking less favorable terms elsewhere, such as a shorter amortization, higher interest rate, or higher origination fee. Another consideration is; if you are a very strong borrower, its likely the Bank may have no issue with 80% LTV because they will want you as a customer. To summarize, it is possible but you may have to shop around a bit - and Loan terms can always be negotiated, so be willing to give a little in order to get something in return.

 Thanks Matt for that advice!

-Lee 

Post: Will two empty units in a Triplex affect my appraisal for a refi?

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24

My lender told me that the empty units will not affect the appraisal for the HELOC... that's what I just heard yesterday...