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All Forum Posts by: Lee Mast

Lee Mast has started 10 posts and replied 28 times.

Post: Help... Newbie is drowning...

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24

@Donald Thomas

I'm also new...I have one cash flowing Triplex in western NY state where I grew up because investment properties are very expensive where here in Colorado where I live. I have more leads than I can handle right now... I have an off market Turnkey Triplex I am considering and I have at least 20 properties (combination of SF, Duplex and TriPlexs) that an older couple wants to unload in the next 5 years.

Where did I get these leads? Well, I started calling people from "back home". Do you know people in other areas of the country where maybe housing is cheaper? Call them up and tell them what you are interested in. Ask them what they know about the area. Look on craigslist and Facebook for listed rentals "for rent"... contact the number... try and track down the owner... ask them if they would ever consider selling. Where there is a will, there is a way!

Post: Lease Option a Lease Option...Sandwich?

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24

@Brandon Sturgill No one ever commented on this? What did you end up doing? I'm researching lease options right now.

Post: Turn Key Triplex available - would love feedback

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24

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*This link comes directly from our calculators, based on information input by the member who posted.

Post: New to the Pocket and am wondering if I could get some feedback

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24

I think I see an opportunity but there are a lot of hurtles for me to overcome. First of all the property is not for sale and is part of a 107 acre parcel. If I can convince the owner to sell off a small corner with this house, I would be needing funding assistance. I have access to about 45-50k of my own money. Would probably need hard money or private money or a partner to make this happen. Mostly running these numbers for practice but this does look like a possibility. Any feedback on how to properly use these calculators is appreciated!

I chose the "selling price" off of the Tax map info as the which lists the "actual value". The "Assessed Value" is only $15,730! My Rehab number came from the Rehab Calculator. I'm sure that must be reviewed and tweaked to make sure it's accurate. Not sure if this house is on public water/sewer or if there is a well/septic. For the purpose of these numbers I assumed it was on public 

Post: New to the Pocket and am wondering if I could get some feedback

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24

View report

*This link comes directly from our calculators, based on information input by the member who posted.

Post: I bought the 3 unit I was living in!

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24

@Nicholas DiPasquale Since starting to follow Biggerpockets I've learned that the deal was better than I knew. My plan is to continue educating myself on Real Estate investing here on Bigger Pockets and elsewhere, to start analyzing properties on the Bigger Pockets Calculators and hopefully find and seal a deal on a house hacking duplex here in Northern Colorado in the next 6 months. 

Post: I bought the 3 unit I was living in!

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment in Penn Yan.

Purchase price: $66,500
Cash invested: $20,000

This is a 3 unit property. One unit is two bed/two bath, the other is two units are one bed/one bath. I paid $66,500 for it, put about $20k of my own money in it including the down payment/closing costs and some repairs. Currently one unit is rented on Air BnB 6 months out of the year and has a College student during the school year. The other two units have full time tenants. I no longer live in the state and the property is managed by a friend.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

I was living in one of the apartments and was tired of seeing the empty studs on the empty/gutted unit next to me. I thought, "why not buy this and work on it in my spare time" and I did. I did some rough math and figured I could live rent free and maybe put a few bucks in my pocket when I was done. I grew up in contracting so I knew I could do a lot of the work myself. I just asked him if he would like to sell it to me and he said yes so we made a deal.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

As mentioned, I was living in one of the apartments. I just asked if he would sell it. He gave me a price of $66,500. I felt that was fair so I accepted.

How did you finance this deal?

I financed it through my local bank. I've done business with them for years. They knew me well and they worked with me on the mortgage. I used to be part owner of a roofing company and we had a 100k line of credit. I used that line of credit and some of my many credit cards to finance the remodel and then I got a Home Equity loan to pay that back.

How did you add value to the deal?

I did about 50% of the rehab work myself. I utilized relationships which connected me with a talented individual who had just moved to the area and didn't yet have a job. This guy did the rest of the work for me hourly on an hourly wage.

I expanded the parking lot out back to make room for two cars for each unit off street parking. I divided the garage into 3 storage units approximately 6'x24'.

What was the outcome?

My current Cash on Cash return is about 27% annually. When I add annual principal pay down I am at about a 42% ROI annually. Because of the increased ARV by all the repairs I've done, I've been told the property is now worth between $130k and 150k.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

I happened to luck out with this deal. When I did the deal and the remodel it was mostly gut instinct. I didn't know anything about Bigger Pockets, Cash on Cash return, ARV. I didn't know how to run the numbers. My next property will be more well thought out before I take the plunge. I now reside in Fort Collins CO and plan to start investing here. Obviously this is a much different market than Western NY state so I will probably need some hard money lenders to make the next deal fly.

Post: I bought the 3 unit I was living in!

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment in Penn Yan.

Purchase price: $66,500
Cash invested: $20,000

3 unit property. I was living in one unit when I bought the property from the land lord. One unit is two bed/two bath, the other is two units are one bed/one bath. I paid $66,500 for it, put about $20k of my own money in it including the down payment/closing costs and some repairs. I took out a 35K Home equity loan to remodel the main apartment (which was completely gutted when I bought it), repaint the outside, some roof work, landscaping work, expand the driveway, new sidewalks and a new concrete patio out back. Split the garage into 3 separate storage units. I did some of the work myself but hired an unemployed contractor friend to do the rest. The property is currently managed by a friend. The unit I used to live in has been an Air BnB over summer and occupied by a college student over winter for the past 3 seasons. I plan on switching it back to a full time tenant soon.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

I was living in one of the units. The unit next to me was gutted and the land lord wasn't currently working on it. I grew up in contracting so I knew I could do a lot of the work myself. I just asked him if he would like to sell it to me and he said yes. We made a deal. Currently it is Cash Flowing about $450 a month but I will be making some changes which will push that to about $570 a month very soon.

How did you finance this deal?

I financed it through my local bank. I've done business with them for years. They knew me well and they worked with me.

How did you add value to the deal?

I did about 50% of the rehab work myself. I utilized relationships to hook me up with a talented individual who had just moved to the area and didn't yet have a job. This guy did the rest of the work for me hourly.

I expanded the parking lot out back to make room for two cars for each unit off street parking. I divided the garage into 3 storage units approximately 6'x24'.

What was the outcome?

My current Cash on Cash return is about 27% annually. When I add annual principal pay down I am at about a 42% ROI annually. Because of the increased ARV by all the repairs I've done, I've been told the property is now worth between $130k and 150k.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

I happened to luck out with this deal. When I did the deal and the remodel it was mostly gut instinct. I didn't know anything about Bigger Pockets, Cash on Cash return, ARV. I didn't know how to run the numbers. My next property will be more well thought out before I take the plunge. I now reside in Fort Collins CO and plan to start investing here. Obviously this is a much different market than Western NY state so I will probably need some hard money lenders to make the next deal fly.