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All Forum Posts by: Lee Mast

Lee Mast has started 10 posts and replied 28 times.

Post: Will two empty units in a Triplex affect my appraisal for a refi?

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24

Really appreciate the insite everyone. I have the two units listed on Cozy... hopefully will get them filled soon. The good news is I did find a lender that will give me a HELOC up to 80% LTV on my Triplex! That seems to be a rare occurence these days.

Post: Lease Option - step up in bases questions

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @Lee Mast:

I have a problem ... I have too many leads and not enough knowledge/experience or money to make it happen!!! 

Okay Explain! I reached out to an older couple in my home town who are land lords. I rented from them years ago and I knew they are at retirement age so I thought maybe they would be ready to sell. They are. I have a list of about 20 properties right now (and there's more) that they want to unload in the next 5 years. I was chatting with @Herb Dorn about this and he suggested I consider a Lease Option with Step up in Bases approach as one angle I believe to help them save on Capital Gains tax. 

Has anyone else out in BP Land ever done something like this? Would love to pick your brain! 

I will be doing more google research in my spare time but I thought I would throw this subject out there and see what happens. Would love some feedback. 

What you are asking is a tax question that a CPA or Enrolled Agent could be more definitive about. But what I think he was probably meaning is that when you take over a property with a lease option, you don't own the property and the title doesn't change hands so there is no taxable event.

If you use a lease option that lasts longer than the seller lasts, the heirs take over the property at the stepped up basis. There is no capital gains. The advantage is that the seller gets cash flow during their lifetime and doesn't have to pay capital gains.

When you exercise the option, title does change hands and if the seller is still alive they have a potential capital gains tax liability. If they have passed and probate gives the property to the heirs, you can exercise the option, take ownership and there is a stepped up basis so no capital gains tax to either the seller or the heirs.

 Mike, thanks for your thoughts. This was a completely new concept to me before @Herb Dorn mentioned it to me. Thank you Herb! Still lots of questions but I will reach out to a NY CPA and continue my search online for more education on this. 

-Lee

Post: Is it possible to get 80% LTV on a Triplex Investment Property?

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24
Originally posted by @Michael Ablan:

@Lee Mast - Small local banks, with commerical lending departments. I get 80% LTV all day with these sorts of banks. They may initially only offer 75%, but I've found most are allowed to do 80% to earn the business of a client.

Michael, Thanks for that insite... I have found a couple banks now that will do 80% LTV so maybe I will use that as leverage on my local bank. No reason they shouldn't... I only own one property, have no other debt and a great credit score. Negotiate!!!

Post: Lease Option - step up in bases questions

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24

I have a problem ... I have too many leads and not enough knowledge/experience or money to make it happen!!! 

Okay Explain! I reached out to an older couple in my home town who are land lords. I rented from them years ago and I knew they are at retirement age so I thought maybe they would be ready to sell. They are. I have a list of about 20 properties right now (and there's more) that they want to unload in the next 5 years. I was chatting with @Herb Dorn about this and he suggested I consider a Lease Option with Step up in Bases approach as one angle I believe to help them save on Capital Gains tax. 

Has anyone else out in BP Land ever done something like this? Would love to pick your brain! 

I will be doing more google research in my spare time but I thought I would throw this subject out there and see what happens. Would love some feedback. 

Post: Seeking Cash Out Refinance

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24
Originally posted by @Joseph A.:

@Lee Mast Thanks, I've gone down all those avenues, I forgot to mention that I no longer have W-2 income and I've only been self employed for 1 year so banks don't want anything to do with me right now.

 That is a tough spot to be in! I wonder if a private lender would give you money with a lien against the property?

Post: Is it possible to get 80% LTV on a Triplex Investment Property?

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24

@Craig Jeppesen 15% or 10% on an investment property TriPlex? Can you send me some names of banks I can follow up on? Thanks!

Post: Seeking Cash Out Refinance

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24

Beautiful rehab by the way! 

Many lenders will do a cash out refi on your duplex at 75% LTV. My concern would be the cost of the money. If your property appraises at 65k, at best, you will get $48,750. Your closing costs are going to be somewhere between $3,700 and $5,500 just to access that money. At 5k closing costs that's about a 10% cost for that money plus the interest rate on the fixed rate loan that will be close to if not more than 5%.

I've looked into this myself recently for my property in New York State trying to access some cash. My choice is to go with a HELOC ... very low closing costs and you will get access to the same money but you only pay interest on it if you use it. I know it's very hard to find a HELOC on an investment property but I've been told that TD Bank will do it. I can PM you the contact info for the person I'm working with if you're interested.

Post: Is it possible to get 80% LTV on a Triplex Investment Property?

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24

Thanks Matt, will do. The issue I seem to be having is with the TriPlex. Everyone says they can do 80 LTV on single family not Triplex. But ... I am not one to give up!

Post: Will two empty units in a Triplex affect my appraisal for a refi?

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24

Hey BP Masters as my title says, I'm about to apply for a Cash out Refi. I unexpectedly had two tenants break the lease and move out. I'm using this opportunity to "freshen up" the apartments and I'm sure they will rent within a week or two but I'm just wondering if having an empty apartment would dock my refi appraisal? 

Thanks in advance!

Post: Is it possible to get 80% LTV on a Triplex Investment Property?

Lee MastPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Fort Collins Colorado
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 24

My previous post got deleted... apparently I worded something wrong that made this look like an advertisement or solicitation so... trying again. Am I on a fruitless search to find 80% LTV for a TriPlex?

Thanks!