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All Forum Posts by: Kyle Meyers

Kyle Meyers has started 58 posts and replied 548 times.

Post: electrical and plumbing connection

Kyle MeyersPosted
  • Residential Landlord
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 592
  • Votes 138

Michael,

For the new water line, my plumber works with someone who does that work and was able to get everything set up. All I had to do was make a phone call, and now I will have to pay the bill. I am going to the property today to see how everything turned out, but I spoke with my plumber last night and he was able to test all of the water lines and said everything is working fine.

Post: Create a floor plan for internet ads

Kyle MeyersPosted
  • Residential Landlord
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 592
  • Votes 138

I have been looking for an easy way to create a floor plan for my rentals to put with the ads online. Does anyone know a good program or website to do this?

A couple hours ago I kept getting logged out and then got the ruby rails error. I haven't had a problem yet in the last few minutes I've been back on the site.

Post: Starting my LLC, but I already have the properties

Kyle MeyersPosted
  • Residential Landlord
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 592
  • Votes 138
Originally posted by Mandy Morrow:

We incorperated in Nevada because if sued we were told we would be figthing with Nevada Law on our side, instead of CA law which is more consumer friendly.

I would check with a lawyer. This has to do with jurisdiction and venue. I think anyone who wanted to sue you for something you do in CA would have no trouble proving that they can sue you in CA (jurisdiction) and that it is the best place to do so (venue). I am not a lawyer, so I am not positive about this, but I recently took a law class and these issues were some of the first things we discussed.

Post: call center to handle maintenance requests

Kyle MeyersPosted
  • Residential Landlord
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 592
  • Votes 138

Jennifer,

I don't have the contact info for you, but there are a lot of services that do this. Do a quick google search to find some more information. I was trying to start a business a couple years ago that would require a call center and spoke with several services. I would also recommend looking for services that take the after hours calls for electricians, plumbers, etc. They may be able to offer the kind of service you are looking for.

If you don't need an actual person to answer the phone, you could use google voice for free and they will send you a text message and email with the voicemail transcribed for you.

Post: electrical and plumbing connection

Kyle MeyersPosted
  • Residential Landlord
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 592
  • Votes 138

I'm having my water lines from the street to my newest property in Indianapolis redone today. I had the water company out about a month ago and they told me I needed to get a special pipe to put the meters in, so I had my plumber do that. Then last week, the water company called to tell me that they couldn't turn water on and I would have to replace the pipe from the street to the house. Since it is a duplex I have to run two lines and it is costing about 3000 and holding back everything else. My plumber told me it might just be that the city wants the the curb side meters and so they won't hook it up until I put those in, but I thought they would have told me that the first time I had them out. Good luck getting everything done. I found IPL much easier to work with that Indianapolis Water.

Post: Paying Contractors on Smaller rehabs

Kyle MeyersPosted
  • Residential Landlord
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 592
  • Votes 138
Originally posted by Max I:
I have a question about paying to contractors. When you guys have a contractor work on a small job, does the contractor give you invoice breaking out material vs. labor charge or the invoice is just for the job without any break out between labor and material.

On smaller jobs, do you guys buy the material yourself and pay the contractor for the labor part?

I think it is just personal preference. I've had some contractors break it apart, others just give me a total. For one of my properties I bought most of the materials myself and hired contractors just for labor, now I am having contractors provide most of their own materials. I still buy the design materials (tile, lights, door knobs) but the basic materials I just have them buy and it's included in the quote.

I would just ask the contractor to do the quote whichever way you want it done.

Post: Paying Contractors on Smaller rehabs

Kyle MeyersPosted
  • Residential Landlord
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 592
  • Votes 138

My contractor for my current fix up has been happy with being paid weekly for the jobs he has done, our contract has all the specific tasks listed out with prices for each. I meet him once a week and we go through what is completed, and what he is doing next, sometimes we find another project that needs to be done (fix the hole in the bathroom floor that we found when we moved the tub over). I haven't had any problems with this system, he did ask me for some money for materials before he goes out to buy the paint, but everything else he hasn't required anything upfront. I have worked with several other contractors, most of them want a small amount for materials and then payment at completion for the rest of the work, but I think on a longer job, the weekly payments make more sense.

I also have been able to build up trust between myself and my contractors, I can call them and make add something else and they can get started without a contract in writing, then I just sign something the next time I see them, or just pay if the work is completed.

I am pretty new to this whole thing, but it seems to be working so far.

Post: Starting my LLC, but I already have the properties

Kyle MeyersPosted
  • Residential Landlord
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 592
  • Votes 138
Originally posted by Mitch Kronowit:
I was hoping somebody with much more knowledge and experience would add to this discussion, but since nobody has, I want to throw out a few things.

First of all, I've only had my LLC for about a year and have not had it challenged yet. However, everything I've researched says in order to enjoy the liability protection from an LLC or Corporation, you HAVE TO MAINTAIN it properly. That means NO co-mingling of funds. NO actions that benefit the owners to the detriment of the entity. NO ignoring your state department's reporting requirements. Basically, treat your company like a separate entity and so will the courts.

Now, I would like to hear more from this attorney who says he can "pierce the corporate veil" by simply filing a few papers. My understanding is "piercing the corporate veil" requires a successful legal challenge to the sanctity of a limited liability entity, not just naming the owner(s). If corporations didn't provide any liability protection for its shareholders, how come I've never been personally served when Boeing, Chevron, or Cisco got sued?

And as Kyle stated, operating your business within an entity is not the end-all, be-all in "bulletproof" protection, just another layer of your empire's onion. You still need insurance. You still need to behave responsibly. Having an LLC or a Corporation is not a license to steal, be neglectful, or act recklessly. For that you need to hold a Congressional office. ;-)

I think one difference between being a shareholder of a company and the sole owner is that you are making all the decisions. My understanding is that someone may be able to successfully sue you for a decision you made, not based on your ownership. Since I make all the decisions for my investing, I would not really get much benefit from the llc (I think). If you don't make all the decisions or have employees, I would definitely think and LLC makes a lot more sense. I really don't know, this is just based on things I have read and people I have talked to. In any case, it is at least another layer of protection, I think I am ending up with the decision that the level of protection I think it would provide in my situation is not worth the hassles I would have.

Post: Starting my LLC, but I already have the properties

Kyle MeyersPosted
  • Residential Landlord
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 592
  • Votes 138
Originally posted by Steve Might:
Originally posted by Kyle Meyers:
I had thought that as well and that is why I had not done anything until this point, but I started reading up on the posts about it and I thought that even if it doesn't really fully protect me,…

With the reporting, tax and other requirements, and the inability to not represent your companies do you still think it is worth it? I am not arguing, just curious.

I think I am going to just keep everything in my name for now. It doesn't really seem worth it to get the llc for me right now. I am keeping it in mind for later on. As I get more properties, I will think about whether it makes sense for me to set it up.