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All Forum Posts by: Kim Hopkins

Kim Hopkins has started 48 posts and replied 254 times.

Good idea. I've asked the leasing agent if he thinks it would actually lower the rate or just the number of applicants. If he says it wouldn't lower the rate, any ideas on how to discount based on the fact that it would lower the applicants by 50%?

Originally posted by @Jack Inman:

@Kim Hopkins Probably worth going for a discount first. For quantifying the amount, I'd start by seeing if that leasing company you mentioned could give you an idea on how much the difference in potential rent is between a 14ft clearance and the 11'7" clearance is. Loosing 50% of the potential tenant pool is never a good thing, but if the seller is willing to give you a discount to offset that drop in value then I see no reason to back out.

We're in contract on a small bay industrial warehouse in the Phoenix metro area. We toured it today. It's a fantastic location and 100% leased. Downsides we were aware of is that there's too much office buildout And instead of overhead doors they have these stupid pedestrian double doors. But we were willing to deal with all of that. However we just discovered that the clear height is only 11 ft 7 in. The OM said it was 14 ft and the standard for the area which is very dense with this product type is 14'-16'. The leasing company that leases 95% of this product type in the area says this will eliminate 50% of prospective tenants.

however it is an incredible incredible location And currently 100% leased. 

question one. Do we ask for a discount or do we walk?

question two if we ask for a discount, how do we quantify it?

thanks!

Kim

@Chris Jeffries Can you please say this again, but more slowly? :) I definitely understand the concept of debt refinancing, and it's definitely a possibility. First issue is that we get 15 year term debt, and so that's a long time for investors to be in the deal. Second issue is that we are cash-flow investors, versus banking on appreciation, so they'll get great cash flow over the years but may not get a great return when we refi since we don't like to pull out much equity when we refi, in order to keep the cash flow up. 

Hello! We specialize in multi-tenant light industrial properties. To date, we've self-funded or accepted family investors who have no issues with indefinite hold periods. 

Our objective is to never sell our properties. In addition, we are typically able to secure 15 year terms on our debt. We also work with insurance companies so prepayment before term is typically not an option. At the current low interest rates, it would seem unwise for us to accept any term less than what we are able to secure. We also focus on cash flow, vs appreciation investing, so I would not consider our portfolio to be focused in "value add". 

We'd like to accept outside investors in our next few deals. This is both to give back to friends and family who are interested in investing, and so we can do more / larger deals. We are considering a straight split (maybe 80%/20%GP) or a waterfall (maybe 5% pref and 70/30%GP). Not sure of the numbers yet and this post isn't really about the actual numbers. 

My question is: If Investors typically prefer a shorter hold period, say 5 years for sake of example, is there a way to structure the syndication to allow them to exit at year 5 WITHOUT a sale OR refinance? 

I've seen a structure where there is an annual preferred return, say 5%, but no waterfall split and at year 5, the GP returns the capital and some additional preferred return, say 4% over each year of the hold (in place of the waterfall split). But this is usually a fund that is selling properties and therefore has the capital to do this. I'm concerned we may not have the capital to give our Investors a proper exit without a sale or refinance. 

(Note that I'm not really looking for the answer to "find investors interested in a 15 year hold" since we plan to hold the property in perpetuity and we eventually would prefer to not have outside investors in the deal, with proper compensation to them on an exit of course).

Thanks!
Kim

Hello!

Hope everyone is enjoying the holiday season or the end of 2020 or both! 

To continue where I left off last time, after fleeing our personal home in Los Angeles and relocating to Arizona, we decided to rent out our California home for the time being. We are using a specialty property management/leasing company that places people through their insurance company for temporary housing. It's always for a 30 day minimum and typically for a couple of months at a time. 

The company we're working with uses a standard template for their tenant leases. It is the "California Association of Realtors (CAR) Residential Lease or Month-To-Month Rental Agreement".

Since month-to-month renters have the exact same tenant rights as yearly renters in Los Angeles, it is important we treat the leases seriously. We will be doing whatever we can outside of the lease to vet the tenants as well (credit checks, etc.).

The company we're using has not made any edits to the CAR standard lease form. 

Question for those experienced in California and Los Angeles month-to-month and/or long term rentals: 

  1. Is this form as good as it can be for Landlords in Los Angeles / California? 
  2. Are there any standard edits that should be made to it? 
  3. Do you think there is any point in hiring an attorney to do this or is it so tenant-friendly in Los Angeles that there is nothing that can really be done to the lease or in practice to increase protection for the Landlord?

I understand none of this in any way constitutes legal advice.

Thank you!
Kim

Hi @Gi'angelo Bautista this is very interesting. I actually didn't know there were professional eviction services! That sounds like something very good to know. 

For your houses (not private rooms) that you're renting for 30+ days, could you possibly give me a specific list of what you do to screen tenants? Also, do you market entirely through AirBnB and if not, what outlets do you use to market he homes? 

Thank you much

Thank you @Sean Gribbons, I agree with you completely. We would NEVER invest in California. The only reason we own this property is because it was our home and the only reason we want to keep it is so we can easily visit our friends and walk to our favorite restaurants and parks. I hear you though. We are one of those droves that left. 

Thank you everyone. And for the new replies from @Mindy Jensen , @Joe Splitrock, @Sarah Blesse, @Jon Schwartz, @Melody R.

It sounds like it is just not worth the risk to do business in California. Ironic, because I could have rented the house at a lower rate than the mortgage would cost to someone who buys it new (thanks to appreciation) so their unfriendly laws are contributing to lack of affordable housing. And now I also have to sell my house. 

Thank you everyone for the very helpful insights! 

@Carla Carvalho Great points except we don't want a long term tenant because we want to visit. The only scenario would be if they're willing to vacate when we're there but I don't know if that's realistic. 

Hi @Carla Carvalho, I'm very interested in hearing what you find out about this. We own a home in Sherman Oaks next door and want to do something similar. You know you have to rent for a minimum of 30 night stays in Los Angeles unless the home is your primary residence right? 

That's our predicament as well. On top of that, there is a moratorium on evictions, so I'm concerned about renting to someone and having them refuse to leave. Therefore, I'm also very interested in corporate rentals as well, but not sure where to start.