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All Forum Posts by: Kevin Whisler

Kevin Whisler has started 8 posts and replied 87 times.

Post: Wholesaling, trouble getting deal under contract in NY

Kevin WhislerPosted
  • Lender
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 96
  • Votes 123
Originally posted by @John Thedford:
Originally posted by @Henry Lazerow:

Sounds like you are trying to defraud him. Hopefully he reports you the licensing department and tries to take your earnest when learns you aren't really a cash buyer. 

 and people wonder why I feel the way I do about unlicensed brokers. It seems fraud and deception are getting to be the norm in the industry.

John i see you on every post trashing wholesalers. How do you have so much time to do this? Nobody responds to your terrible comments, yet you keep posting them. I think if you were such a prominent investor, you wouldnt have so much free time to s*** on people trying to find financial independence.  [Personal attack removed by moderators]

Post: How to find a wholesale deal?

Kevin WhislerPosted
  • Lender
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 96
  • Votes 123
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Kevin Whisler:
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Cesar Pineda:

I’ve watched countless hours on YouTube about wholesaling the last 6 months. I’m ready to begin my journey. So what are the best ways to find your first deal ?

Wholesaling as it's taught is a myth. You need a license to Broker real estate. That's all wholesaling is as it's taught in these programs, it's brokering real estate except instead of being up front & telling the distressed seller that you'll sell their property for X amount & take X amount as your commission / fee you are taught to lie to the seller & pretend you are going to buy the property while you secretly attempt to "assign" your contract.

It doesn't work. Nobody has any respect for wholesalers. Whenever a wholesaler contacts me I simply get the information about the property & reach out to the owner myself cutting the wholesaler out of the deal entirely. If you do business above board as a licensed agent that won't happen to you. The only people making money wholesaling are the guys selling you all of that education.

To be successful connecting buyers and sellers you need to have

  • An in depth knowledge of the market.
  • Marketing skills.
  • Sales skills.
  • Negotiation skills.
  • Accurately estimate rehab costs.
  • Understand how to much time it would cost to run a renovation on the properties you are presenting.

My advice get a real estate license. Way cheaper, no legal issues, more respect and there is a decent chunk of cheap or free training out there from the mega brokerages. Soak it all in while you're trying to get off the ground. It's not an easy job, 90% fail rate but it's better than the 99.9% "wholesaler" fail rate.

James, you simply could not be more wrong. I've done over 500,000 in wholesale commissions and we've never had a complaint from a seller, a legal issue, or a complaint from a buyer. Please do not spew your negativity to excited new RE investors. 


Wholesaling when done the right way can benefit everyone involved. To say that all wholesalers are scummy people that are criminals is not correct. Perhaps you should educate yourself more thoroughly before trashing a part of the industry that you clearly misunderstand. 

 I've been around the block a few times. Don't think it's an education on the topic that I lack. You've said it yourself; you've made $500,000 in wholesale commissions. The fact of the matter is that one needs to have a real estate license to legally collect a commission in all 50 states. You are operating outside of the law. As I understand it, selling heroin is rather lucrative as well.

Wholesale commissions & wholesale fees are the same thing by definition. The fee on the deal is income that is paid out legally and on the HUD by licensed and insured title companies. It is not a wad of cash paid in a back alley. Your understanding of the wholesaling business and you saying that it isn't legal is wrong. Spewing that negativity to new users is bad for the community, it steers them in the wrong direction and frankly makes you look like a jackass.

There are plenty of people wholesaling correctly and legally, and making great money in the process. I'm sorry that you are so stuck in your ways in your opinion.

Post: How to find a wholesale deal?

Kevin WhislerPosted
  • Lender
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 96
  • Votes 123
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Cesar Pineda:

I’ve watched countless hours on YouTube about wholesaling the last 6 months. I’m ready to begin my journey. So what are the best ways to find your first deal ?

Wholesaling as it's taught is a myth. You need a license to Broker real estate. That's all wholesaling is as it's taught in these programs, it's brokering real estate except instead of being up front & telling the distressed seller that you'll sell their property for X amount & take X amount as your commission / fee you are taught to lie to the seller & pretend you are going to buy the property while you secretly attempt to "assign" your contract.

It doesn't work. Nobody has any respect for wholesalers. Whenever a wholesaler contacts me I simply get the information about the property & reach out to the owner myself cutting the wholesaler out of the deal entirely. If you do business above board as a licensed agent that won't happen to you. The only people making money wholesaling are the guys selling you all of that education.

To be successful connecting buyers and sellers you need to have

  • An in depth knowledge of the market.
  • Marketing skills.
  • Sales skills.
  • Negotiation skills.
  • Accurately estimate rehab costs.
  • Understand how to much time it would cost to run a renovation on the properties you are presenting.

My advice get a real estate license. Way cheaper, no legal issues, more respect and there is a decent chunk of cheap or free training out there from the mega brokerages. Soak it all in while you're trying to get off the ground. It's not an easy job, 90% fail rate but it's better than the 99.9% "wholesaler" fail rate.

James, you simply could not be more wrong. I've done over 500,000 in wholesale commissions and we've never had a complaint from a seller, a legal issue, or a complaint from a buyer. Please do not spew your negativity to excited new RE investors. 


Wholesaling when done the right way can benefit everyone involved. To say that all wholesalers are scummy people that are criminals is not correct. Perhaps you should educate yourself more thoroughly before trashing a part of the industry that you clearly misunderstand. 

Post: My first property - what happened

Kevin WhislerPosted
  • Lender
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 96
  • Votes 123

@Dennis M.

He’s cashflowing 900 a month and the property seems to be in really good shape. He also purchased it as his primary residence and turned it into a rental. Seems like a win to me. Read the whole post and don’t be negative.

Post: Wholesaler turned Agent- Whats next?

Kevin WhislerPosted
  • Lender
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 96
  • Votes 123

Hi everyone, I just recently stepped away from 2+ years of successful wholesaling and became an agent. I am moving from Philadelphia to Orange County, CA. as well. I was just wondering if any agents had any advice for starting out? (as well as if any agents in the area that come across this were trying to find an assistant, I'd be open to learning that way as well)

Any advice would be a huge help as far as RE meet ups in there area, or just tips to starting from the beginning! Thanks everyone!

Post: What happens if you cannot sell a wholesale deal?

Kevin WhislerPosted
  • Lender
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 96
  • Votes 123

Have a due diligence contingency built into your contract; so earnest money deposit would be submitted after a 5 or 10 business day period contingent on your partner, contractor, funding, etc. I mean it could be your family dog for crying out loud. But the point is, the due diligence period is a window where you can wholesale the property and have the buyer submit deposit so you dont have to come out of pocket. And if you can't sell it during that 5-10 day period, you're off the hook. 

Post: Seeking investor friendly Realtor in Philadelphia

Kevin WhislerPosted
  • Lender
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 96
  • Votes 123

@Scott Sperry

Hey Scott, how soon realistically? I’ll be certified in the next 6 weeks or so and have a good knowledge of the market from wholesaling the past two years. So if you’re that far out, I’ll help you. If you’re buying sooner I can refer you someone.

Post: Where to start with Wholesaling

Kevin WhislerPosted
  • Lender
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 96
  • Votes 123

Hey Joe, check your DMs, i just got back to you about this. 

Post: Agent referral in Philadelphia

Kevin WhislerPosted
  • Lender
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 96
  • Votes 123

Francis Mangubat- Hes with Advance Philly Keller Williams. Either him or someone from his team could help you. If you send me a DM, i'll link you two up!

Post: Wholesaling in Florida

Kevin WhislerPosted
  • Lender
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 96
  • Votes 123
Originally posted by @Samuel Toby:
Originally posted by @Brian Garrett:

There are a gazillion people trying to wholesale around here.

It’s an extremely competitive and saturated market.

I am looking to do more inbound marketing (seo, ppc, facebook ads) as opposed to the traditional outbound marketing that many wholesalers currently do (cold calling, direct mail, etc..) which I believe should help in a very competitive market 

Curious as to what your opinion is on this

The reason people do cold calling and DM is cause it has the best ROI. You just have to get people at the right time. Im in Philly which is a very competitive market, but we get a good amount of deals from simply cold calling. Also if you're doing inbound; Facebook gets super pricey and the leads are not qualified. We've spent over 10k there and had almost nothing come of it. I suggest AdWords if you're going the online route, simple because people will be searching you and submitting info as opposed to just clicking random buttons on Facebook.