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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 9 posts and replied 77 times.

Post: Lakewood/Tacoma, WA 1st deal help

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Originally posted by @Adrian Buck:

My question is primarily directed toward those who are familiar with or who invest in the south Sound area around JBLM. I'm looking to buy my first buy and hold rental, but only have $15k to get started.

I've noticed that most of the affordable (read: cheap) property south of Seattle is in and around Tacoma. It seems like investing in Tacoma can be risky from a quality of neighborhood perspective, but I'm unfamiliar with the Tacoma/Lakewood border area. I found a FSBO SFR that seems like a decent deal and am looking for feedback.

The property is 1000 sq ft, 3 bed 1 bath asking $138k. Rents in the area for that size home look like they are $11-1300/mo. So, a couple of questions I have are: Does this look like something worth pursuing? What should I be aware of regarding that area, and more specifically the effect that a military base has on the local rental market? Which south Sound area have you found to be a better area for a rental?

Thanks BP!

 check the comps real well. try rentometer.com or zillow rentals and see exactly what people are renting and for exactly how much. I only rent in places I am familiar with. I have lived in des moines to seatac to kent and renton. So I stay in those areas because I know the market inside out. I don't invest in tacoma, because I'm not familiar with the area. Also being a landlord in kent and having property that far south might be an issue. I like to keep on top of my properties. 

Post: SFH for rental analysis

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Originally posted by @Ralph R.:

Kevin

I'm not seeing why a guy would pay all cash for any rental.  I cant see why an investor would buy one investment property for $100K, when he could leverage them and buy 4 properties for a 25K down payment each?  at least if one goes empty, or needs some repair you still have the others that are performing well.  I agree with @Sarah Cunningham.  buy a little cheaper houses and don't fill the basket too full of eggs.  In the long run it will yield better return on less outlay. 

The other thing I see is the house obviously doesn't meet the 1% rule.  I never look at a listing twice if it won't rent for 1% of the initial cost MINIMUM.  including closing costs.  this is more important in multifamily dwellings as most appraisal's use at least a percentage of the propertie's ability to produce income to establish the propertie's value.

RR

 First off I completely agree with everything you just said. But you have to consider geography. Seattle home prices are really high.. I mean even in recession a 400k house went down to 250k when in california a 400k house went below 150k. huge difference. We have a string market. I always hear people on here saying they bought a 100k duplex..lol and me and all my seattle investers crack up because the closest duplex to us is selling for 499k. Its a completely different market. The 1 percent rule does not apply. Neither does the 50 percent rule. I have been in this market long enough and seen sfr work the best for me. As far as paying cash, Its just easier. Why cash flow 10 homes when you could own 1 and make the same money and have less worry. I would totally cashflow 10 homes if I was a full time investor, but sinceIm not, the tenant to cash ratio plays a huge part in my life. why rent a 4 plex where you have to deal with 4 tenants when I can rent a sfh for 2300 a month and deal with one tenant and make the same amount of money. Just makes sense to me. I have a friend in Kansas city who buys homes for less than 50k and rents then out for 1k each a month. Now thats a market im looking into currently. Plus their property taxes are dirt cheap. 

Post: Appfolio?

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Michelle L. Dooreuhn Cee Thanks so much for the replies. When I heard 200 bucks, I had to go back and do some more research. I found truerent online and it's apparently free for 50 units and under, I'm trying it out now. I'll let ya know how it is. Check back for an update.

Post: Appfolio?

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Anyone use Appfolio? Likes dislikes? Does someone with 10 properties really need it? Or is that only for bigger property management companies. The only thing I like about it is the way tenants can pay online and it can go directly into your account. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Post: How To Afford A Lambo?

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Originally posted by @Harrison Painter:

I had a long talk with my father back on my 30th B-day.....

It was about finally understanding what the hell he had been telling me all of those years, the stuff i never listened to! :lol:

I have come to realize that I actually get a little dumber every year.........At 18 I thought I new it all, and every year that passes, I realize more and more of the things I don't know! LOL

The moral to the story, sometimes dumber is smarter! :mrgreen:

My advice is to buy decent used car, most successful people will give 2 craps about what you drive, they will only care if you are someone who will hustle and MAKE BUSINESS HAPPEN!

Take all of that money you are thinking about spending and invest it in real estate....

If you do that, you might be paying cash for your dream car in the future!

 BOOM!!!! perfect answer!!! couldn't of said it any better myself. 

Post: Please advice on North Kelso Wa duplex opportunity :)

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Originally posted by @Drew Barrett:

Hi everyone:)

I wanted to get your input on a property - it's a Duplex in north Kelso. It's a foreclosure property, being sold by Fannie Mae, for $156,000...its on a private lane, that's off a dead end-road. My agent said both units would rent for $900, but I'm calculating $800/month to be safe. It's a townhouse style duplex, with each unit being 1030 sqr ft, 2 beds, 1.5 baths, vaulted ceilings, small fenced yards, big 1-car garages, and fireplaces. It looks like the bank put in new floors, paint, fixtures, and appliances (those all look new, anyways). The mortgage (w/PITI and PMI) will be just under $1100, so that's $500 a month income (if both units brought in $800), then I'm setting aside $200 a month for repairs/capital expenses, and $160 for vacancies. So the cash flow would be $140(which isn't great). However, there's a good chance I could get $850 a unit, plus in a few years, I will refinance it, and drop the PMI, which would reduce my mortgage payments by $170. It's not in a flood zone, and I have inspection and financing contingencies in place. This would be our first property, and I want to get everyone else's input: do the numbers sound like a decent deal? Also, am I missing anything?

Any input, advice, or thoughts are VERY appreciated!

Thanks so much!

-Drew 

 did you include property tax and insurance in your calculation? because that takes away from cashflow also. I only see repairs and vacancies... tax? insurance? hoa? 

Post: Should I get a truck?

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Originally posted by @Mark J.:

Personally,  I don't know how people get along without a truck, especially if you own and renovate property. Now, do you need a fancy new truck, that's up to you. But an older, well-maintained truck covered by minimum insurance will offer you the affordibility and flexibility you need, when you need it. I drive a 11 year old Toyota Tundra I picked-up for next to nothing during the 2008 gas crisis when everyone was dumping low MPG trucks. Over the years, I've added plenty of scratches and dings during remodel projects. And now whenever I notice them, they remind me of projects completed and the hard work I put in to reach my goals. I'm proud of each and every one of them! My prediction- you may soon find yourself driving the truck more often than your car!

 completely agree.. but I went the other way. i have a sequoia that seats 8 people but i also own an open 8x12 trailer and also an enclosed 8x12 trailer. Most of my tools and rehab stuff is in the enclosed trailer and i use the open wood trailer to dump stuff on demo day. It works out great because I get to keep a big suv and seat the family but also do rehab stuff. so maybe go the trailer route.. always options

Post: Are there any "2%" markets in Western Washington?

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Originally posted by @Juan Silva:

I've been searching the MLS for a couple months now looking for my first rental investment in Western Washington, but so far haven't found anything close to the suggested 2% rent to purchase price rule.

Does anyone have suggestions on which areas fit the mark? If not, then what percentages are other REI's typically realizing when purchasing SFR and/or 2-4 unit properties in King, Snohomish, Pierce counties.

Thanks in advance for any/all feedback.

 I feel the same way. I'm in Renton, and I always am so jealous of people on bp who says they got a duplex for 150k and it rents out for 1500 each side... lol. The closest duplex for sale is in Kent, and its 499,999 and it rents 1400 on one side and 1600 on the other... try and cash flow that? lol Seattle is a rough market. I buy and hold, and hope that appreciation will help out some, but I don't depend on it. There is a lot of buyers now, and not enough homes for sale. I have a Realtor friend who got 18 offers in 2 days on a house in renton. lol. its crazy. The home prices are falsely inflated because of lack of inventory. 

Post: Tax Deal?

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Originally posted by @Nghi Le:

I came across a contractor who had two different sets of prices/bids; one that he calls his regular price, and one that he calls a tax/cash deal.  The tax deal is always a great deal, but I wonder if I could get in trouble for this?

We still sign a contract, he would provide a receipt for all the disbursements, and he says his license, bond, and insurance will still take effect for the project.  I also still plan on recording all of my expenses in QuickBooks and give it to my CPA at the end of the year regardless.

 Sometimes paying cash saves the small business owners lot of fees, so in return he lowers the price for the customer. Most contractors always lower the price when you pay in cash, its just a a huge benefit for them. As long as you get a receipt and report it in your taxes, thats all that matters. What he reports in his taxes is his problem.

Post: Washington state anti-flipping law (SHB 1843)

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Originally posted by @Nghi Le:

I haven't heard of anyone being hit with this in King County, but I know it has been heavily enforced in Kitsap County for a while. It may be just a matter of time. I'm also interested in how much the license, bond, and insurance will cost, and where can I get it done without much headaches. 

 Ive heard the same. I've heard kitsap county hits hard with that, king not so much.