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All Forum Posts by: Julie Nealey

Julie Nealey has started 20 posts and replied 86 times.

Post: Seeking Developer/Investors in Mixed Use

Julie NealeyPosted
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2.68acres Prime Mixed Use, pre-app approved land for sale. 2.27acres buildable in a PRIME location in Mill Creek, WA, a suburb just north of Seattle in a very hot market. Median income over 105K -- Property sits with excellent frontage for prime retail on major SR 527 at a dedicated right hand turn lane. Just 2 miles North of the Mill Creek Town Center. Traffic counts are very high. 

Environmental complete, partially cleared and graded. Rezone is possible for $2500. City has been great to work with. My circumstances changed. FOR SALE -  Feel free to reach out and ask questions.

Quote from @Jesse Lopez:
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

A few questions: 

Is your 'planner' going to do the drawings then? I don't see that mentioned

And what about engineering?

What is your estimated total cost as of now? 

How long will it take to recover that?


 Good day Bruce,

Thank you for your feedback. To answer your questions:

1. Yes. The drawings are part of the fees charged by the design planner.

2. Engineering will be an additional expense. Of course, the designer has offered to hire his contacts but coming from a civil engineering background, I wish to take on some of the minor interior construction and HVAC systems. For liability reasons, I will seek to contract the plumbing, electrical & fire suppression.

3. & 4. I currently don't have that information (I'm currently stationed overseas, and my brothers are doing most of the research). I will touch bases with them to see what those numbers look like and share them here.


What do you think so far?


You would also need to have parking. If you only have 8000sq ft lot, you would not have the space for your parking requirements if you plan to max out the site.(Most requirements are per X sq ft. (Of course you could always go underground, but that is a very very expensive and I would not recommend it.)

I wish you luck!

Quote from @Sean Lynch:
Hi,

I am looking into building a multi-family subdivision/association and wondering if anyone here has any experience in larger scale development like this? Currently bidding on land available up to 40 acres and speaking with a number of companies that would help support the building of multi-family properties (Duplexes). Looking at moving forward with a pre-fab multi-family contruction once the right land is acquired.

I wanted to reach out to the BP community to see if anyone has ventured into this type of project? Would love to chat about potential pitfalls and obstacles, processes used, etc...Anything that could help with outlining what to expect.

The land I'm looking to buy will be clear for the most part so I would be able to come in and break up into plots, build main roadway in/out of association, will need utilities added to each unit etc..... Just wanted to see if I could run some ideas by anyone in this community who has explored similar investment options.

These will all be buy and hold multi-family investments that are long term rentals.

Any help or insight is helpful!

 What about mixed use development? Best of both worlds? 

@Douglas Gratz Your original post was from Dec 2021. I'm curious where you are in the process? Have you completed all your due diligence? I just went through this process and it cost me 700K to get full entitlements. 

If you have an elevator as you mentioned originally, that alone will cost 30-50K. Of course, I am in a suburb just north of Seattle and I got bids for my 14 multifamily townhomes/commercial that came to $300sq ft and my finishes were high-end, but NOT luxury for anticipated sale price between 950K-1million (Townhomes) Prime retail. It took me a year to get entitlements. So hard money needs to be 2years at least and I suggest doing interest reserve. Traffic mitigation fees alone were 30K for my site and the surety bonds required by the City were about 80K. We also bid 20% contingency cost just to insure we had the required funds to compeletion.

 

Post: Yakima Washington Investor

Julie NealeyPosted
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Quote from @Cameron Brulotte:

Has anyone here done any deals in Yakima, Wa.  I am just curious because I am looking at investing in that particular location and not finding to much probably just like any other city, but I think we have hit a softening in the market for now!

Thanks Bp!

What kind of investing are you looking to do? 
Quote from @Jess Haas:

What are the drawbacks of listing the land with the entitlements? Seems like you should weigh listing it vs partnering it with a developer. See what your potential returns may be and then make a decision. Without running proforma it’s hard to compare. 


 I listed it, so it's on the market now. I think the biggest hurdle is the re-zone from 50/50 +1 commercial to 75/25, but is very doable. Thank you Jess.

Quote from @Tim McKelvy:

What are your thoughts on finding land and developing/building multi-family units? Depending on price of land seems it could potentially be a good investment depending on builder etc. For reference our area (NW Arkansas) rents are anywhere from $1000-$2000 on average but there are outliers in both directions. We are also home to 3 fortune 500 companies JB Hunt, Tyson Foods, and the king: Wal-Mart. We have 25 families moving here every day, we need more multi-family options. Anyone done anything similar?

Hello Tim, I was a first time developer and the cost to get entitlements and shovel ready was just under $700,000 (I was developing over 2acres.) There are so many moving parts you feel you are always paying for something you have to have in order to get to the next hurdle.

My advice partner with someone. I did by myself, and had never done it before. I wouldn't recommend it. 
 
Quote from @David V.:

Hi, 

Recently been looking at alternative investments, particular rural land, subdividing. Some of these require a few hundred grand. How do I (or people in general) connect with some like minded investors, so each puts in a smaller portion? At the same time the partners might complement each other, etc.

Alternatively, how do I connect with hard money lenders? 


When you say "alternative investments" are you looking to develop?

As far as meeting hard money lenders, I have always cold called, but I would say that it really is 50/50 if you actually get to speak with someone. Cold calling got me my first HML, but I have found a wonderful broker that helped me find my latest lender, he was/is excellent at what he does, honest and extremely responsive, so much worth the fee.

Quote from @Sergey A. Petrov:

Partner up with a developer. I do see developers taking the wait and see approach so if you can’t find one that tells you that you should either hold or sell if you don’t want the carrying/holding costs and would rather just unload it


 Thank you. 

I own raw land in a prime location just north of Seattle in a very good location. Its mixed use, 50/50 +1 split. I have owned the property for 4years and pre-covid actually obtained all entitlements to build an owner occupied development.  I even started to clear and grade the site, and then Covid hit. Coming out of covid the cost to build over doubled and I could not have my clients absorb that, so I decided to go a different route. Had the wetlands redetermined and went from a 100' buffer to a 50' buffer. HUGE!!! I could then max out the site and had a new site plan drawn up and pre-app approved for multifamily/commercial. 

I am not a developer. I have learned A LOT going through the permitting process the first time around, but for the new site plan, its a bit too big for me to tackle. My questions are:

Sell ? In this market will we not get our asking price as developers are in a "wait and see" pattern?

Keep it undeveloped and hold it for a while as the value will only increase, as it is in a prime location with incredible traffic counts and frontage on a major state route.

Bring in an experienced developer and develop it? If so, what are typical splits for deals like this? 

Thank you in advance?