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All Forum Posts by: Joshua Janus

Joshua Janus has started 1 posts and replied 1280 times.

Post: My first deal in Cleveland

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Quote from @Eyal Goren:

First time investing in Cleveland. Is this a good deal relative to the area?

$390 cashflow, ±20% CoC

My worry is that the area is not that great (is it ok?) - the property is based in Garfield Heights - and that my property tax will be much higher.

More details: https://brickbear.ai/share/deal/1/583


Focus on the ARV + your all in as well. Residential RE is based on what your neighbors pay so if you are all in less than they are every time you are doing well

Post: Local Agent in Charge

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Quote from @Neal Schadler:

I have several properties in Cleveland and the surrounding areas. Many of the cities are now requiring someone to be a Local Agent in Charge if you don't live in Cuyahoga County. I am an out of state investor.

How have dealt with this issue>

Neal Schadler


 There are multiple property managers in the "build your investing team" section that can help here. 

Post: I need a hard money loan

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Quote from @Damein White:

Any referral for a hard money loan out in Ohio 


 Wildcat lending or Renovo are both great hard money lenders I've used in the Cleveland market. 

Post: Seeking DSCR loan in Cleveland

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Quote from @Ron Kim:

I appreciate all the replies as they give me insight. The neighborhood is a cash flowing area with solid rental demand but it is an f grade on crime grades. I'm looking for a lender and property managers experienced with dealing in these areas.


 I would be VERY careful buying in f areas. Check how many times it has been sold on here since 2000

https://myplace.cuyahogacounty.us/

If it's trading a lo of times that clearly shows the investment is not working. 

Post: Seeking DSCR loan in Cleveland

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Quote from @Ron Kim:

I'm eyeing a property 65k for my first rental investment and I have 25% down payment. It is already generating 900/month with updated electrical and clean interior.


 What neighborhood is that in? I worry about homes < 100k in Cleveland they generally are in very rough areas or need a ton of work and are filled with deferred maintenance.

Post: Looking for a DSCR/fixed/ARM lender for a cash out refinance on my rental property

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Quote from @Jimmy Lieu:

I am looking to do a cash out refinance on a single family house rental I own. I already have a few term sheets, but the fees/interest rates are much higher than I expected. Any recommendations for DSCR/rental loan lenders in the Columbus Ohio area?

Ideally, I want the lowest PITI possible - so interest only loans would be preferred but open to ARMs and fixed loans. Thanks for your help.


here are 2 DSCR lenders I use for cash out refi's

Isaac Antar Express Capital Financing DSCR (201) 490-1114 [email protected] https://expresscapitalfinancing.com/

Quinton Booth investmentpropertyloanexchange DSCR (417) 605-2151 [email protected] investmentpropertyloanexchange

Post: Best Pockets in Ohio for Section 8

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Quote from @Danielle B.:

Considering the following cities in OH to invest in Section 8 Housing:

  • - Akron
  • - Dayton
  • - Toledo
  • - Youngstown
  • - Canton

For those of you with experience here, can you share the average cost for a single-family house (3 bedrooms +) and the net profit per property per month for Section 8?

Looking for properties under 100k where the net profit per property per month is at least $500. 




Cleveland, Ohio is a great market to focus on for cash flow and specific pockets have gone up 2x and upwards of 4x in the last 5-10 years even!

Examples:

44109 (median home price went from roughly 50k to 125k in 8 years)

https://www.zillow.com/home-values/77009/cleveland-oh-44109/

44102 (median home price went from roughly 30k to 120k in 8 years)

https://www.zillow.com/home-values/77002/cleveland-oh-44102/

44106 (median home price went from roughly 100k to 200k in 8 years)

https://www.zillow.com/home-values/77006/cleveland-oh-44106/

It has the highest rents on average in all of Ohio for major cities and the median home value is not even in the top 3.

Post: I'm looking for a team for my Investment Properties in Cleveland

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Quote from @Muhammad Danish:

Hey everyone, my name is Danish. I'm new to the forum and new to this platform. I've known about this platform for a while, but I have decided to take a step and join to connect with people. I have been an investor in private and public companies for years, and I have decided to take a leap of faith and get into real estate. I'm based in Seattle, and I am really, really interested in the Cleveland, Ohio market. I would love to learn more from the people in this forum specifically.

In the meantime, I would love to develop a team as I'm already looking at a couple of properties, and hopefully, I can get started at the beginning of 2025, buying up a few properties. So again, I would love to connect and build a team of real estate agents, general contractors, inspectors, and property managers specializing in Section 8. As a matter of fact, if everyone on my team has knowledge about Section 8, that would be ideal.

So, yeah, I would love to connect with people, learn more about the Cleveland market, and hopefully, start applying the strategy as soon as possible. I have been fascinated by the BRRRR strategy, and hopefully, it will work well in Cleveland. So, yeah, I would love to connect to discuss real estate, learn from you all, and hopefully, if you are interested in investing in private or public equity, feel free to connect with me as well. If you are a real estate agent, general contractor, home inspector, or property manager, feel free to reach out to me as well


Cleveland, Ohio is a great market to focus on for cash flow and specific pockets have gone up 2x and upwards of 4x in the last 5-10 years even!
Examples:
44109 (median home price went from roughly 50k to 125k in 8 years)
https://www.zillow.com/home-values/77009/cleveland-oh-44109/
44102 (median home price went from roughly 30k to 120k in 8 years)
https://www.zillow.com/home-values/77002/cleveland-oh-44102/
44106 (median home price went from roughly 100k to 200k in 8 years)
https://www.zillow.com/home-values/77006/cleveland-oh-44106/

It has the highest rents on average in all of Ohio for major cities and the median home value is not even in the top 3. That creates a really nice price / rent ratio which is favorable for investors looking for cash flow. The median home price is also very low nationwide which creates a low barrier to entry. You can get solid cash-flowing single families in the 90-120k price range and duplexes in the 130-180k price range. There are cheaper one’s in D/F areas but I would be careful as those can create a laundry list of additional issues. In 2022 the rents increased 12.1% year over year which was the 3rd highest in the entire country per https://www.axios.com/local/cleveland/2023/02/14/cleveland-rent-prices.

Here are pockets I focus on for cash flow:
West side - West boulevard, Cudell, Clark-Fulton, Jefferson, Bellaire-Puritas, Old Brooklyn
East side - Fairfax, Buckeye-Shaker (the north side), Waterloo Arts District, Garfield Heights, Maple Heights, Newburgh Heights, Lee-Miles (the north side), Bedford

Here are the areas that I focus on for appreciation:
West side - Lakewood, Edgewater, Old Brooklyn, Ohio City, Tremont (above 490)
East side - Buckeye-Shaker (the north side), Waterloo Arts District, Fairfax
*I have a graded neighborhood map of these areas as well if you would like to check it out.

Post: Experience of OOS investing in Cleveland after 1.5 years.

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Quote from @Luka Jozic:
Quote from @Joshua Janus:
Quote from @Luka Jozic:

Hi everyone, I started investing in Cleveland about a year and a half ago and have acquired 6 LTRs (SFH and MFH) using mainly the BRRRR method in C areas. I've done fairly big renovations where in most cases, Im replacing almost everything in/on the house. First year has been tons of learning and despite all the research and preparation I did, I still did mistakes and learned things the hard way. I went with one of the biggest PMs that everybody vouched for, yet it took them forever to even place a tenant, and once they did, the tenants never paid on time. Additionally, despite the houses being newly renovated, every month there were new expenses and something breaking, almost as if they want me to not cashflow. The PM said they don't up-charge, but most repairs and expenses were ridiculously high. The result of this? No cashflow, in fact Im in the negative for almost every property so far, and yes I do put aside money for vacancies, capex, and repairs. I finally switched PMs recently and the new one seems much better but Im still getting pretty frequent repairs though much cheaper than the previous PM. The problem is that in this market, getting $2-300 a month cashflow is about as good as it gets, and one furnace, one turnover or whatever and that takes out the cashflow for that year, or even puts you in the negative.

Lets just say the experience hasn't been great, yet. Im trying to stay hopeful that it will turn around but I just keep receiving blow after blow. Just recently got hit with a 10K sewer line repair. I know, its my fault I didn't inspect the sewer line but in my defense, having such inspection contingencies makes it nearly impossible to find a viable BRRRR deal, as there are several investors lined up ready to pay more, in cash, and no contingencies. Im now starting to doubt wether or not Cleveland is actually a good market to invest in? Majority of the houses are old and require frequent repairs in addition to a poor tenant base that can't pay on time and don't care about their credit. On paper it looks good, but the reality is a different story. Im wondering if other markets might be better, with somewhat newer houses and higher quality tenants? But the thing with those markets are you'd be happy to break even, so even if repairs are less and tenant quality is better, I feel like it would end up being the same result.

For those of you that invest in Cleveland, do you have similar experiences? If not, what do you think you might be doing differently to make it work better?


 I've found that replacing the capex up front in Cleveland creates way less headaches / maintenance requests over time. This is the renovation criteria I use in order to make sure the place is clean, safe and actually ready to rent. 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MreMNvXxPZy7AaqMGMFPVunQ...


See since I've been doing BRRRR, thats generally what I have been doing but somehow something always manages to come up. But the main issue has been tenant quality. I've just realized Cleveland is not the right place for me so Im getting out.


 There are plenty of good tenants here. Almost 3/4 of the population in the city of Cle rent. If they are all bad the city is doomed. 

Post: Experience of OOS investing in Cleveland after 1.5 years.

Joshua Janus
Posted
  • Realtor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 1,301
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Quote from @Luka Jozic:

Hi everyone, I started investing in Cleveland about a year and a half ago and have acquired 6 LTRs (SFH and MFH) using mainly the BRRRR method in C areas. I've done fairly big renovations where in most cases, Im replacing almost everything in/on the house. First year has been tons of learning and despite all the research and preparation I did, I still did mistakes and learned things the hard way. I went with one of the biggest PMs that everybody vouched for, yet it took them forever to even place a tenant, and once they did, the tenants never paid on time. Additionally, despite the houses being newly renovated, every month there were new expenses and something breaking, almost as if they want me to not cashflow. The PM said they don't up-charge, but most repairs and expenses were ridiculously high. The result of this? No cashflow, in fact Im in the negative for almost every property so far, and yes I do put aside money for vacancies, capex, and repairs. I finally switched PMs recently and the new one seems much better but Im still getting pretty frequent repairs though much cheaper than the previous PM. The problem is that in this market, getting $2-300 a month cashflow is about as good as it gets, and one furnace, one turnover or whatever and that takes out the cashflow for that year, or even puts you in the negative.

Lets just say the experience hasn't been great, yet. Im trying to stay hopeful that it will turn around but I just keep receiving blow after blow. Just recently got hit with a 10K sewer line repair. I know, its my fault I didn't inspect the sewer line but in my defense, having such inspection contingencies makes it nearly impossible to find a viable BRRRR deal, as there are several investors lined up ready to pay more, in cash, and no contingencies. Im now starting to doubt wether or not Cleveland is actually a good market to invest in? Majority of the houses are old and require frequent repairs in addition to a poor tenant base that can't pay on time and don't care about their credit. On paper it looks good, but the reality is a different story. Im wondering if other markets might be better, with somewhat newer houses and higher quality tenants? But the thing with those markets are you'd be happy to break even, so even if repairs are less and tenant quality is better, I feel like it would end up being the same result.

For those of you that invest in Cleveland, do you have similar experiences? If not, what do you think you might be doing differently to make it work better?


 I've found that replacing the capex up front in Cleveland creates way less headaches / maintenance requests over time. This is the renovation criteria I use in order to make sure the place is clean, safe and actually ready to rent. 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MreMNvXxPZy7AaqMGMFPVunQ...