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All Forum Posts by: Jon Martin

Jon Martin has started 36 posts and replied 1073 times.

Quote from @Michael Haynes:

Hello Henry Lazerow in Chicago. You should watch Nick's ReventureConsulting youtube video, "Airbnb owners are about to Sell (Massive Housing Crash


 ". . . . . could be as bad as the subprime crisis" 

LOL!!!!

Almost nothing is "Recession Proof" but you are certainly better off trying to rent an easy to drive to STR than a condo in the Caribbean when times are tight. Just like people don't stop eating meat, they eat ground beef and chicken instead of rib eyes and filet mignons. The caveat is that you need to have bought right so that you can lower your prices and pay the bills, and also have desirable attributes that make your place standout. 

I would respectfully disagree with the "only buy in vacation markets" advice. Lots of people jumped into a small handful of markets where there are no other strategies/exit plans, whether that be from that type of advice and/or herd mentality. There are plenty of places where the price to entry is reasonable and the return potential is good, and you don't have to compete with hundreds (thousands?) of units with amazing amenities and live models in their professional photos. Just be sure to read the fine print and buy in areas where the prevailing politics tend to be favorable. If there are county wide regs I would avoid it like the plague, but if you can park just outside the city limits and still be close to the action you are good in lots of areas. 

Post: Build or not to build

Jon MartinPosted
  • Posts 1,084
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By the time it's finished in 2-3 years we should be through this market cycle  . . . LOL. In all seriousness, there should be some wash out during the course of your build. 

I'd say if you are doing well then go for it. Sounds like you have a model that is working for you, even in a tough year. You are always going to be working off of lagging indicators, especially with a build that ties up your capital for 1-2+ years. 

Quote from @Sarah Kensinger:

I'm still trying to figure out why SOME people think the STR market has tanked. I'm surrounded by hundreds of STR operators that think otherwise.

I'm not either. I'm about on par with the AirDna estimates I ran when I bought at the start of 2022. With thousands of investors flock into the same small handful of hyper-competitive markets its no wonder that those markets will struggle, especially for those who bought in late. Meanwhile they ignore regional markets that have huge upside potential because they follow the herd instead of skating to where the puck is going. I love seeing neighboring properties close to where I want to buy with bad photos, average mismatched furniture and decor yet well occupied calendars. Shows me that with a bit more effort and good service I can easily surpass them. 

Some of the prevailing advice may not have been great in hindsight and in the context of too many investors piling in, but at the end of the day we are all adults who should do our own DD.
Quote from @Joe S.:

I'm wondering if you are attributing the saturation to the correct person? My guess is that more people were enticed by various personal finance and/or "hustle" podcasts, youtubers, tiktok etc. Most wouldn't find their way to a specific book nowadays without getting funneled in from another source is my suspicion. 

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Quote from @Trent Reeve:

if they are crazy check in (say 4 hours early) then maybe. If its a little and the place is clean and ready, i let them know im letting them in early to start some good will. As for checking out, i check with my cleaners and sometimes let them know they can take another hour past the normal checkout time (10 am) if they need it. but honestly, i havent had anyone ask for late checkout so far this year.

I agree.

If it costs me no extra effort then I will do it an no extra expense to guests.

Same. It's a kind gesture that costs me nothing and makes a good review more likely. If it's not a same day turn and the place is open then I let em have it. 

That said, I don't go out of my way to accommodate it in regards to scheduling cleaners around it. 

PM me please! Thank you 

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Quote from @Carrie Foley:

I actually think it's better to say there's 3 tiers out there. And I stick to the middle tier. A few thousand for a sofa at a place like World Market or equivalent. Buy quality, but not luxury. No matter how expensive it is, people will still spill/stand/jump on it, especially if you get guests who are less than 5 stars. 


Agreed. Don't buy the cheap plastic utensils from dollar tree that nobody wants to use, but also don't buy the $40-50 copper pancake turner from William Sonoma. Buy the $12 stainless steel utensil that is going to look good enough and last a long time. 

I like Living Spaces for sofas. Really good quality in the $1200-1800ish range. 

Awesome thank you @Sarah Kensinger 

I didn't like the idea of having to explain in the listing which bed/bath is open/locked, have them not read the obvious "fine" print, then complain that it's not what the expected. Having 2 listings makes much more sense because that way they see exactly what they are getting for the discounted price.