Skip to content
×
Pro Members Get
Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
ANNUAL Save 16%
$32.50 /mo
$390 billed annualy
MONTHLY
$39 /mo
billed monthly
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
×
Try Pro Features for Free
Start your 7 day free trial. Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties.
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Jonah Slove

Jonah Slove has started 15 posts and replied 62 times.

Post: Fix and Flip Investor or Hard Money

Jonah Slove
Posted
  • Posts 66
  • Votes 47
Quote from @Andrew Postell:

@Brandy Luna congratulations on being able to save $30k.  That's a HUGE success.  That shows you have discipline and the ability to budget.  Both of those are skills you will need your entire investment career.  

Now, it sounds crazy to think that $30k isn't that much money.  I mean, it's a LOT of money but it does make some things challenging.  

So, what can you do with $30k?  You can buy your own primary home.  You can buy a multi-family primary home.  You can househack that home or just live in it for 1 year, and then buy another primary home a little later.  Not everybody can do this strategy...especially if you have kids, family, etc. but if you can, now you are buying with the help of a realtor, your home is inspected, you can negotiate with the seller on things, and you get the best rate you can find.  So, there are good things about going this route.

What else can you do? You can absolutely, most certainly flip....but you have to be really accurate on your math. When you flip you need to be within 5% of your ARV. You need to be within 10% of your rehab costs....and you do both of those steps BEFORE you make your offer.  The other thing you do before you make your offer is you find a hard money lender that will allow you to come out of pocket $0.  None of this "we lend 100% of the purchase and 80% of the rehab" stuff.  I mean, you can work with whomever you want to of course...but the way the rest of us do this is we find a lender that will allow $0 out of pocket.  Usually they lend 70% of the ARV (that's the math we want).  That way, if I can BUY and REHAB at 70% of the ARV...now I come out of pocket $0!  Ok, so you'll have to turn on the utilities and pay the monthly payments on the loan, etc.  But what I mean is to have no downpayment.  Admittedly, finding a property where you can get that math to work is hard...but so is everything real estate investing related.  I make about 100 offers to get 2 deals.  So, you might have to stick with it for a while.

And you can certainly partner with people too. I would only do this lastly though.  Well, at least not until you feel REALLY comfortable with someone. Like, you know them for a year or something. The best way to meet other investors is through local Real Estate Investing (REI) Groups. Try some local real estate meetup groups. Meetup.com is a good resource for those but some of the groups will also post here on Bigger Pockets Marketplace too. Even facebook might have some good local groups for you.

I know I'm hitting these real quick but those are the concepts at least.  Hope all of that makes sense.  Thanks!


can you share your HML for $0 out of pocket? I talked with a few and its 25% down or using the purchase value not the ARV.

Post: Time to sell?

Jonah Slove
Posted
  • Posts 66
  • Votes 47
Quote from @David Fern:

Since I have 2 daughters, I will chime in here with perhaps an unpopular take. Forgive me if my thoughts are off point. 

It has already been mentioned, and I agree, that this would come across better if your fiancé were the one asking for advice, since it’s her money. With the way this is being presented, it feels like you’re talking about her money as your money. You’re not married. You might be the greatest guy in the world with the greatest intentions, but if this were my daughter’s fiancé making this post, I would have significant concerns. She would be taking a massive unwise risk by doing this in a fiancé status. 

How about you guys get married, have a good honeymoon, get on the same page legally + financially, and then bring this back into discussion. Seems a bit rushed. Especially with times being so volatile and the fact that you haven’t tied the knot yet. Tons of people out there making huge financial house selling/buying decisions before getting married and getting burned.


David, she is reading right along with us. We are on the same page. This is not happening in the near future, nor without legal counsel from somewhere besides the internet. We are trying to learn what options may be best for us as a family. Thanks for your concern...

Post: Time to sell?

Jonah Slove
Posted
  • Posts 66
  • Votes 47
Quote from @Julien Jeannot:
Quote from @Jonah Slove:
Quote from @Andrew Postell:

@Jonah Slove tell her to look into capital gains taxes and how much she can exclude if she lived in it for 2 out of the past 5 years.  Renting a $1.3million home is a terrible return.  She can certainly do better with other properties. 


 We can exclude $500k of gains if we are married. Once fees and improvements are taken off too we should be maximizing that. So what are your thoughts on our scenario? She moved in with me 2 years ago and before the property in question was her primary.

Did she lived in the property 2 of the last 5 years?

 Yes! She has.

Post: Time to sell?

Jonah Slove
Posted
  • Posts 66
  • Votes 47
Quote from @Judy Parker:

IMHO she should not sell the townhouse.


 why is that? again the idea would be to reinvest in other rental markets?

Post: Time to sell?

Jonah Slove
Posted
  • Posts 66
  • Votes 47
Quote from @Bud Gaffney:

HOLD HOLD HOLD. Your kids and grandkids will appreciate it.


 more so than a bunch of other properties?

Post: Time to sell?

Jonah Slove
Posted
  • Posts 66
  • Votes 47
Quote from @Michael Smythe:

1031x only DEFERS capital gains, while selling it within 3 years of last occupying it for 2 years, makes wither $250k or $500k TAX FREE.

Ah ok. So I need to figure out how to claim it as my primary too :)

Post: Time to sell?

Jonah Slove
Posted
  • Posts 66
  • Votes 47
Quote from @Caleb Brown:

Wow that's awesome. Normally I'd say keep but with the equity and rent you can sell. If you do make sure to reinvest into a good deal(s) and have enough for some taxes. 


 Yup  looking for those good deal(s) now

Post: Time to sell?

Jonah Slove
Posted
  • Posts 66
  • Votes 47
Quote from @Dave Foster:

@Jonah Slove, She will be the only person eligible for the primary residence deduction.  In order for you to qualify you would have had to have lived in it also for 2 out of the 5 years prior to sale.  Marriage ultimately doesn't really have that much to do with the qualifying other than establishing residency and what tax return the property is reported on.  It is your use.

But....  there is a great opportunity here.  She will only get $250K of profit tax-free.  But because it is also an investment property right now she can also 1031 the remainder.  

 $250K tax-free.  and defer the rest of the tax in a 1031 exchange.  


 Good to know, thanks for the clarification.

Now to figure out where to buy next...

Post: Time to sell?

Jonah Slove
Posted
  • Posts 66
  • Votes 47
Quote from @Scott E.:

For sure need to sell and 1031 the proceeds into something else.

Spend some time dialing in where you want to park the money before you even list the townhouse for sale. The identification window on those 1031 exchanges goes by QUICK.


ok good to know. It sounds like we can also sell pretty much tax free from cap gains too as it was recently her primary. We live in a small town and rural area (Jackson, WY) so not sure where to look next.. multi family an hour away? a few SFH in another city? How should we start looking. I am also personally looking to buy in a city like Detroit to learn the process.

Post: Time to sell?

Jonah Slove
Posted
  • Posts 66
  • Votes 47
Quote from @Andrew Postell:

@Jonah Slove tell her to look into capital gains taxes and how much she can exclude if she lived in it for 2 out of the past 5 years.  Renting a $1.3million home is a terrible return.  She can certainly do better with other properties. 


 We can exclude $500k of gains if we are married. Once fees and improvements are taken off too we should be maximizing that. So what are your thoughts on our scenario? She moved in with me 2 years ago and before the property in question was her primary.