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All Forum Posts by: John Matthew Johnston

John Matthew Johnston has started 64 posts and replied 228 times.

Post: To Show Or Not To Show Before An Application is filed?

John Matthew JohnstonPosted
  • Investor
  • Beaver Falls, PA
  • Posts 229
  • Votes 51

@Jason Sousa

I always get the initial application before I schedule a walk through. If everything looks good ( Income, animals, amount of people living in house, credit score, no history of past eviction or felony I will show them the place, if they like it I have them do a background and credit check on their dime and as long as everything looks ok I collect first months and security deposit and hand them keys.

Post: Conventional, Heloc or Commercial???

John Matthew JohnstonPosted
  • Investor
  • Beaver Falls, PA
  • Posts 229
  • Votes 51
Quote from @John Morgan:

@John Matthew Johnston

I did my first 10 with conventional loans. Interest rates were much lower. But if your DTI is too high, then go with DSCR or commercial loans. I've done a few 30 year fixed DSCR loans and they're great. And I've done 4 commercial loans which aren't bad. But they are 5 year ARMs with a 25 year amortization.

Thanks, I really like the aspect of the fixed rate. I will try to go conventional or DSCR and then save commercial for emergencies from now on. Thanks for the reply and advice. 

Post: Conventional, Heloc or Commercial???

John Matthew JohnstonPosted
  • Investor
  • Beaver Falls, PA
  • Posts 229
  • Votes 51
Quote from @Stephanie P.:
Quote from @John Matthew Johnston:

My wife and I have just bought our 8th door and we use the Brrrr strategy. We have always went for the 30 year fixed because our goal is CF and we plan to hold for a long time. I am only a nurse and my wife is a stay at home mother basically so we arent high income earners . We recently started to run into DTI issues and a commercial lender said I shouldn't be assuming mortgages in my name anymore to avoid this issue. The last 2 loans I took out were commercial loans with 5 yr. ARMS that aren't fixed and I just dont like not having a fixed rate. My question is what would be my best loan option to get the longest amortization, fixed and decent rates without assuming loans in my own name or should I just keep trying for conventional loans and max out the 10 conventional loans rule. I have always struggled with the Refi aspect and what the best options are. It seems like everyone has a different opinion of it.


 Hey John,

First, you're not "only a nurse".  You and your colleagues are the backbone of health care, so thank you.

I'm a DSCR broker (full disclosure).

I always recommend borrowers exhaust their conventional financing before venturing into commercial or DSCR, especially if they're in it for the long haul. The rates, over time, will pay you back handsomely. Once you get to a point where either you don't qualify or don't want the hassle, then DSCR is a great way to go because of either the interest only option that gets you better cash flow or the 30 year fixed option. Commercial with a shorter amortization is last in my opinion.


 Thanks for the kind words, when I said "Only a nurse" I meant more of the financial aspect of the it but the kind words are appreciated so thank you. Also thanks for the great information and the reply!

Post: Conventional, Heloc or Commercial???

John Matthew JohnstonPosted
  • Investor
  • Beaver Falls, PA
  • Posts 229
  • Votes 51
Quote from @Jay Hurst:
Quote from @John Matthew Johnston:

My wife and I have just bought our 8th door and we use the Brrrr strategy. We have always went for the 30 year fixed because our goal is CF and we plan to hold for a long time. I am only a nurse and my wife is a stay at home mother basically so we arent high income earners . We recently started to run into DTI issues and a commercial lender said I shouldn't be assuming mortgages in my name anymore to avoid this issue. The last 2 loans I took out were commercial loans with 5 yr. ARMS that aren't fixed and I just dont like not having a fixed rate. My question is what would be my best loan option to get the longest amortization, fixed and decent rates without assuming loans in my own name or should I just keep trying for conventional loans and max out the 10 conventional loans rule. I have always struggled with the Refi aspect and what the best options are. It seems like everyone has a different opinion of it.

 @John Matthew Johnston The advantage to a commercial loan/DSCR is that the property itself qualifies for the loan by the rental income it brings in. In other words you do not qualify with tax returns, pay stubs etc. However, assuming you give your personal guarantee which you almost assuredly will, it does not lesson your debt to income ratio on the next full doc loan you go to get.

As you have seen commercial/DSCR loans have drawbacks either in adjustable rates, shorter amortization, higher rates/costs and possibly pre-payment penalties. So, IF you can qualify with your W-2 income along with your rental income the 10 conventional loans will give you by far the best terms. if you cannot qualify (but make sure you have a very competent loan officer go over your file before you decide that) then the DSCR/Commercial approach can be valuable.

As for the refi portion of your post the key to that is have a plan with your LO before you ever purchase a property. You tell your LO what you are looking to do with a particular property and they should be able to lay out a step by step program for how it will work. If they can not do that, find a new LO. 

Very informative! Thank you for the reply and detail in your response. 

Post: Conventional, Heloc or Commercial???

John Matthew JohnstonPosted
  • Investor
  • Beaver Falls, PA
  • Posts 229
  • Votes 51
Quote from @Jacob St. Martin:

Hello John, what kind of assets are you investing in? Based on your post it sounds like it is single family homes. I am honestly surprised that you were able to get a commercial loan for them as single family homes and multifamily are evaluated very differently. Assuming they are single family though, the DSCR loan is exactly what you need. The lender will choose to lend to you based on the cash flow of the deal not your DTI. If you have some properties that are >15=20% equity you should look into refinancing a couple into DSCR loans which will lower your DTI or just use DSCR loans going forward.

Thanks for your reply Jacob, Yes we have mainly single family and a duplex at this point. I have heard many good things about DSCR loans. Yes on two of the SFH we were able to get 20 year loans with 5 year ARMS. Thanks again for your reply. 

Post: Conventional, Heloc or Commercial???

John Matthew JohnstonPosted
  • Investor
  • Beaver Falls, PA
  • Posts 229
  • Votes 51

My wife and I have just bought our 8th door and we use the Brrrr strategy. We have always went for the 30 year fixed because our goal is CF and we plan to hold for a long time. I am only a nurse and my wife is a stay at home mother basically so we arent high income earners . We recently started to run into DTI issues and a commercial lender said I shouldn't be assuming mortgages in my name anymore to avoid this issue. The last 2 loans I took out were commercial loans with 5 yr. ARMS that aren't fixed and I just dont like not having a fixed rate. My question is what would be my best loan option to get the longest amortization, fixed and decent rates without assuming loans in my own name or should I just keep trying for conventional loans and max out the 10 conventional loans rule. I have always struggled with the Refi aspect and what the best options are. It seems like everyone has a different opinion of it.

Post: Pipes exploded in the middle of our current Reno

John Matthew JohnstonPosted
  • Investor
  • Beaver Falls, PA
  • Posts 229
  • Votes 51

WOW really! Ok I didnt know to do this. Thank You!!!

Post: Pipes exploded in the middle of our current Reno

John Matthew JohnstonPosted
  • Investor
  • Beaver Falls, PA
  • Posts 229
  • Votes 51

So we are in the middle of a reno on a 3-1 ranch. The house if heated with boiler system( That we just replaced 1 month ago) and baseboard hot water heat. We had the temp set on 65 and didnt have anyone over there working during the holiday ( 23rd-26th). My painter just went over and found the whole house saturated and pouring water from a couple places in the baseboard pipes and basically the whole house was underwater for days and we lost alot of supplies and our brand new cabinets are destroyed, along with prob the hot water tank, new boiler, washer and dryer and whatever else I havent found yet. . I already filed a claim with my insurance. Any tips???

Post: Grant Cardone Prophecy

John Matthew JohnstonPosted
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  • Beaver Falls, PA
  • Posts 229
  • Votes 51
Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@John Matthew Johnston just curious, where are you seeing the 15-20% ARV reduction?

what do you mean?