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All Forum Posts by: John Carbone

John Carbone has started 38 posts and replied 1079 times.

Post: Housing crash deniers ???

John CarbonePosted
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Quote from @Greg Scott:

The market may correct, but I firmly believe there won't be a crash.  The reason is simple, equity.

Before 2008 people with no income could get liars loans and buy much more real estate than they could afford.  We heard stories of cleaning ladies buying multiple million dollar homes.  When home prices starting falling, the whole thing collapses like a house of cards because nobody had any equity.  They couldn't sell and get out.  We had cascading foreclosures creating a downward spiral.

Recently, prices have been surging.  Given the laws passed after the Great Recession, appraisals and lending is highly restricted.  Appraisals have not been keeping up with prices and lenders won't lend above appraised value.  We sold a house in 2021 and in one day had 20 offers.  Several of them had acceleration clauses stating they would pay more than anyone else up to $X.  Both of them waived any financing contingency because they KNEW the house wouldn't appraise for what they were offering.  They had to make up the difference with cash.  Those people have a ton of equity in their homes.  If they had to sell, they might take a haircut, but they aren't going to get foreclosed. 

There is no  house of cards here to come tumbling down.

 @Greg Scott

I disagree here, I think a lot of people believe what you are saying, but it is misguided. The "equity" that has been gained over the past decade has primarily been driven by the low interest rate environment. The interest rate is the main component to housing affordability (monthly payment.) So by having 2-3% interest rates, it artificially inflates housing values. This "equity" while it appears real, is really phantom. The fed has aggressively raised rates, we are now sitting at a 7% primary home mortgage rate. A 500k mortgage in 2021 at 3% has a payment of $2,108. a 500k mortgage now at 7% is $3,327. In order to have the payment be $2,108 now at 7% rates, you need a 320k mortgage ($2,129). That is a 36% drop in value now due to rates rising to where they are now. The "equity" is being recaptured now to reflect the reality.

Post: Please explain benefits of arbitrage to a dumb landlord....

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Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

After all these hundreds of posts about arbitrage, I just don't get it........so I have a question to ask. I have never actually done arbitrage from either side, so excuse my ignorance :-).

Here goes: Can anyone explain what the benefit is to a property owner to have a literal stranger sublet their house to a whole bunch of other strangers and pocket the difference in rent profit?

I’ve thought of this myself too. The only thing I can think of why I would want to do this from an owner perspective, would be to test the market area for the product, while someone else is doing the work. I could essentially let someone deal with the start up costs and promoting of it. I’d track it to see how profitable it is. Once the first lease is up, I would renew at a much higher rate to them, or I would then just rent it myself after they did all the work for me. I’ve never actually done this, but that is the only reason I could imagine someone would. 

Monthly Rents are going up higher now in general. I think this is a massive fad 

Post: Where To Post My Glamping Sites For Sale?

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Quote from @Brennen Wilcher:

Hello my fellow Bigger Pockets members! I currently own 3 glamping campsites that due to my new job promotion I unfortunately need to sell. The only issue that I'm having is figuring out where to post the listing due to them being such a different kind of real estate. I'm even willing to finance the sale of all the assets to make things run smoothly and to hopefully sell them faster. This is a turn key operation with EVERYTHING they'd need to get started.

Thanks again for any help! Love how supportive and helpful this community has been to me so far!

You don’t have real estate, you have tents. Your best bet is locally where you have been operating the rentals. From what I see, glamping seems to be a Covid fad that is over. If your glamp sites are still profitable, pay someone else to manage it if you don’t have the time. 

Post: Finding and cost of “onsite partner”?

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Quote from @Autumn G.:

Hello!

I’m under contract on a lake cabin, about 1000 miles away, close to where I grew up. 

It’s somewhat rural, but an hour away from a major area of tourism. The numbers based on one spreadsheet I found have me making a small profit, but the thing I’m unclear of, is how you find an “onsite partner” to be boots on the ground? What does that relationship look like? Is there a checklist of expectations? 


Also, relative to my calculations, how much does this person cost or charge for various needs ie someone having checkin trouble? It seems this necessary expense could whittle away my profits pretty quickly, unless it’s a pass through cost. Any insight on what this relationship looks like, and costs would be appreciated!

Thanks!

To put things in perspective here, it’s extremely hard to find new reliable cleaners/handymen right now, especially ones who will also go above and beyond and do drop ins - these people are way too busy for that. Almost everyone on here has established people doing the work for them already, and what worked really well in the past (before everyone else was doing it) is not as relevant to the situation now. It’s much easier to keep an employer if you pay and treat them well, which is what most everyone on here is doing. Trying to find someone that you are looking for with just one house, I’d advise against going to Facebook for that. Almost everybody is doing that now, and your likely to find someone very subpar, if at all. Also, being one hour from a major area your less likely to find someone on there that is super close for short notice drop ins.

It’s more competitive now. I’ve built my team on the ground with face to face interaction with people who probably never heard of facebook. I’d go there for a week, walk around the neighborhood, check with neighbors first, or go to a local store. You are looking for someone who just needs some side money. You’d be surprised what you can find if you put a little real life effort in, and you’ll have someone super close to your property that won’t put you on the back burner for another client. Just treat them well.

Post: Smoky Mountain STR Punchbowl Confiscated

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what a difference a day makes. Called back today and it’s up to 7.75 percent! Talk about parabolic. money is being sucked out of the housing market by a black hole! 

Post: Are STRs Played Out?

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Quote from @Mike Lambert:

@Steven Rosenfeld

A lot of great advice from great people here so it’s difficult to add more value but I can offer a different angle.

If you think that the bubblicious conditions are due to factors like to much cheap credit that won’t be that cheap anytime soon, too many investors switching to STRs as LTRs don’t work, too many investors chasing too little inventory and an unusually high number of Americans staying in the country because of international Covid restrictions that are being removed, you can always invest overseas. That’s what I’ve done.

The window for cheap money has been closed shut. Investing overseas (primarily in Europe) is starting to get appealing to me. I don’t know anything about the market over there, but seeing the strength of the USD relative to the Euro and GBP (especially), I’m thinking there could be some great deals to be had over there this winter when their economy likely shutters from having no energy. If real estate prices drop nominally in these countries, using the strong dollar to scoop them up, it could be a once in a lifetime opportunity. Someone on here should start a short term real estate company in Europe. 

Post: Accuracy of AIRDNA ?

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Quote from @Trent Reeve:
Quote from @John Carbone:
Quote from @Alex Ballesteros:

I am a new investor who is on track to buying my first investment property here in Compton, CA and my initial investment strategy was to have the main house as a long term rental property and house hack by converting the dethatched garage into an ADU which is where I would live in. After my analysis, the income from renting the main house would cover a little over 2/3 of my mortgage, but now I am thinking if it would be more beneficial of having the main house as a Short Term Rental, so I used the Airdna calculator on BP and the annual revenue would cover my mortgage & then some (earn profit on top of my mortgage).

First, what are your thoughts on doing STR vs LTR given my area?

Second, how accurate is the data on AIRDNA? I know this mostly depends on how well executed I set up the Airbnb.

I'd love to hear your guys' opinions & recommendations!

Airdna revenue projections include the cleaning fee. If you are going to be cleaning it yourself, then that's fine, but unless the profit is substantially more you may want to reconsider. you could be creating two jobs for yourself using this as a STR. A hands on property manager, and a potential STR cleaner if you do it yourself. the option of just LTR covering most of your costs seems appealing in this situation.


 where did you see or hear this?

https://help.airdna.co/hc/en-u...

Post: Accuracy of AIRDNA ?

John CarbonePosted
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Quote from @Alex Ballesteros:

I am a new investor who is on track to buying my first investment property here in Compton, CA and my initial investment strategy was to have the main house as a long term rental property and house hack by converting the dethatched garage into an ADU which is where I would live in. After my analysis, the income from renting the main house would cover a little over 2/3 of my mortgage, but now I am thinking if it would be more beneficial of having the main house as a Short Term Rental, so I used the Airdna calculator on BP and the annual revenue would cover my mortgage & then some (earn profit on top of my mortgage).

First, what are your thoughts on doing STR vs LTR given my area?

Second, how accurate is the data on AIRDNA? I know this mostly depends on how well executed I set up the Airbnb.

I'd love to hear your guys' opinions & recommendations!

Airdna revenue projections include the cleaning fee. If you are going to be cleaning it yourself, then that's fine, but unless the profit is substantially more you may want to reconsider. you could be creating two jobs for yourself using this as a STR. A hands on property manager, and a potential STR cleaner if you do it yourself. the option of just LTR covering most of your costs seems appealing in this situation.

Post: Are STRs Played Out?

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Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @John Carbone:

not yet it doesn't. the markets are forward looking, usually about 6 months. The price movements on wall street are pricing in a high "probability" of lower revenue, which in turn is derived from our vacation rentals. I wouldn't be very concerned about it, but at the same time I wouldn't flatly discount it as not being relevant. 
Not concerned at all, as in this case what Wall St thinks of Air's future will not affect my STRs at all. Even if AIR failed completely they would be replaced instantly.

the drop in Air's stock has nothing to do with the company itself. They are actually reporting good numbers. It's a sell-off across the board of travel related stocks due to the industry being highly sensitive to drops in discretionary consumer spending. The markets are forecasting a decline in this, whether it happens or not remains to be seen, but the probability for that is now high. If that happens our rentals will be impacted. 

expediagroup/vrbo is also down 50% off the high as well.

Post: Are STRs Played Out?

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Quote from @Collin Hays:
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @Collin Hays:

Wall Street doesn't like STRs right now.  Airbnb has lost half of its market capitalization in the last 10 months:

But that has nothing to do with my/our vacation rentals.......


 Good point.  Macro events often have little to do with micro situations.

 not yet it doesn't. the markets are forward looking, usually about 6 months. The price movements on wall street are pricing in a high "probability" of lower revenue, which in turn is derived from our vacation rentals. I wouldn't be very concerned about it, but at the same time I wouldn't flatly discount it as not being relevant.