Originally posted by @Casey Powers:
Originally posted by @Joe Daigle:
Originally posted by @Casey Powers:
Recent example:
$196k home, rent value as-is $1200.
20% down, $42k to close.
PITI $750/month No HOA. B- neighborhood close to Strip and lots of conveniences.
$450/mo —> $5400/yr / $42k —> 12.8% annual cash on cash return, before repairs. Get a really good warranty to help minimize repair costs.
Ya, it’s not a big cash flow market but there can be cash flow. You’re not likely to live on the rent anytime soon, but that’s not where the real money is. The real money is in appreciation. That will make you more in the longer term than anything in most “high cash flow” markets.
Plus tax benefits etc. Plus plus, rent value increases over time, increasing cash flow as well.
You are so right about most multi family doors in Las Vegas. But I’m sure you would agree that appreciation isn’t guaranteed. So, that metric is just icing if it holds. Right now there’s a moratorium holding up a lot of bad news. Until that is discontinued, we none know if Las Vegas is going to turn into 2008-2012 or if it’s going to continue with the current uptrend.
I am talking longer term for appreciation as mentioned. Of course short term prices can (and surely will) drop at some point. That doesn’t mean buying now, or anytime, is a bad deal. Just means a rental investment needs to actually be a buy and hold. Prices will drop at some point, and come back then continue up like always. In the meantime, keep collecting the rent.
Eviction moratorium is mostly a problem for the lower end rental market. Not nearly as much for average to higher priced rentals. I haven’t had a single non-payer since April when this first started. I got out my couple of tenants who lost jobs and stopped paying right away with a deposit refund in exchange for leaving the place clean, and re-rented to paying tenants. And I always have screened very strictly but now I screen like my life depends on it.
We may see price drops but I really don’t see it being as bad as 2008-12.
Casey, you are a very astute person. And I’m sure you have good intentions. But the moratorium isn’t for just the low-end renters. That’s phooey!
We have rentals in providence and summerlin. And we are sensing and seeing the coming fallout from —loss of income (job reduced hours) and career changes ( job is completely gone) Currently the rents are still being paid. But as an investor it’s looking pretty scary
Right now there’s a lot of casino properties that are still closed—-encore, palazzo, half of station casinos etc. Also most tour companies aren’t operating or barely operating. These are the jobs that most Las Vegans hold. And they pay well.
But with tourism down more than 50% ( 45 million visitors in 2019/ 19 million tourists in 2020). We are hoping for the best but very much aware of the worst.
Remember Las Vegas is a boom bust type town.