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All Forum Posts by: Joe Daigle

Joe Daigle has started 10 posts and replied 66 times.

Yeah but the big hedge funds are still in the residential market.  And the lack of inventory makes this market tight.  So numbers haven’t adjusted tremendously. SF area is only down 3-5%.  

Yes, foreclosures are going up. But not a lot of good quality.  I think a year from now will show more opportunities. 

Quote from @Manny Vasquez:

I just read an article on the Wall Street Journal https://www.wsj.com/articles/i... stating the fact that investors have responded to rising interest rates by pulling money out of real estate funds in record quantities. As a matter of fact, nontraded REIT's, such as Starwood Capital Group and Blackstone , have paid out $3.7 billion in withdrawals in Q3 2022 - which is an alarming increase of 12 times from that same period in 2021 (Y-O-Y). Both of those companies have limited the amount of investor withdrawals . These withdrawal limits are triggered in order to prevent the fund from having to make forced sales.

However, even with pre-set withdrawal limits from these REIT companies, investors can continue to withdraw their money in the future, which has several negative effects on REITs:

1) It prevents REITS from buying properties or continue existing projects (in order to hold-on to cash reserves and pay back investors)  

2) If investors continue to withdraw money, this may lead to a downward spiral of selling assets if it can't gain the trust of its investors (i.e. the forced sales of its properties).   

2a) As a matter of fact, Blackstone has put up for sale its 49.9% interest in MGM Grand Las Vegas and Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino


Given the above news and with Zillow, Redfin and Opendoor closing down there iBuying departments, Is this another bellweather for dire commercial and residential economic conditions to come? 


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Personally, I couldn't be more elated with the above news as this opens-the-door (no pun intended) for the little guy to buy (both residential and commercial).



Don that’s a great question.  Thanks for asking. 
I invest solo and with some partners in 1st position performing notes on SFH. And, I/we use note funds to invest in NPL. We primarily purchase from note dealers and we don't broker, originate or wholesale notes. So, our goal is to capture the yield.

@Chris Seveney

Thanks again for the expert advice.

Hey note investors,

I have noticed that a lot of bidding on 1st pos performing notes is being won by investors bidding above the UPB. Is this the new norm or just overzealous investors? Also, I was taught that a note is always discounted/because of risk and the time value of money. Why would someone bid higher than the balance?

Thanks for all your replies.

Quote from @Charley Gates:

Hello!  

I am a buy-and-hold investor who is learning more about investing in notes.  I am interested in recommendations for online courses or books (or other sources of information) that people have found useful. 

I understand that notes is a business best learned by doing, but I am trying to lay a good foundation of knowledge as a starting point.

To date, I have read these books:

"Invest like a Bank" by Beaux Blast

" Little Green Book of Note Investing" by Fred Moskowitz

"Real Estate Note Investing" by Dave Van Horn

"Note Investing Made Easier" by Martin Saenz

"Invest in Debt" by Jimmy Napier

"Profiting from Non-performing Mortgage Notes" by Amed Hazel

I welcome any thoughts or recommendations that the group may have.   Thank you in advance. 

Best regards,

Charley

Tom Henderson has the note calculator course and Bill Mencarow, from PaperSource, has some courses   Those are good programs to begin with  


You may be right in your opinion about Las Vegas being dark. That’s your opinion.  But as for water you are wrong.  Beneath Las Vegas and the whorl of Clark county sits an aquifer that’s one of the largest in this country.  It’s managed by the SOUTHERN NEVADA WATER AUTHORITY.  you are speaking of Lake Mead—it sends 65% of its water to Southern California. 

Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @Stephanie Kern:

I am an agent in Las Vegas and I recently came across a few townhomes in North Las Vegas that appear to be solid cash-flowing properties that will meet the 1% rule and maybe even a little better.  I pitched it to my list of investors (not a long list!) and everyone wants flips, not buy-and-holds.  The owner is asking $180K and the most recent model match rented out for $1800.  I see some serious potential here!  And if it's a bad deal I would also love some feedback as to why!


There are too many unknowns to give you an answer.

Personally, I lived in Las Vegas for five years and hate it. I only want to invest in places I believe in and that place is dark. If you have paid attention, Vegas has been losing water for a long time and will eventually run out. I expect that city to crash hard within 10 years.


Post: What does this mean…….?

Joe DaiglePosted
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I have a quick question: What does “loan-level” bidding mean?

Thanks to all commenters. 

Post: Note Partials: the 10 for 12

Joe DaiglePosted
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Quote from @Marco Bario:

I recently included a tidbit about the "10 for 12" in my weekly seller financing newsletter. It generated good responses and questions, which made me think to share the topic here:

Start with the assumption someone has a note which pays $1,000/mo. They need quick cash and agree to sell 12 payments for $10,000.

In the financial calculator it looks like this:

10 for 12 shown in the HP 10bii financial calculator


• You give $10,000 now
• You receive $1,000 for the next 12 months
• Your rate of return (IRR) is 35.07%

It doesn’t matter if the note payments are $1,000 per month or $1M/month, the return is always 35.07%.

Another use for the same concept:

Your landlord is always complaining about money. Your rent is $2,250 per month. You offer to pay 10 months' worth of rent upfront in exchange for living in the home for 12 months. Your savings? 35.07%.

A few variations:

• "11 for 12" = 16.38%
• "20 for 24" = 18.16%
• "5 for 6" = 65.66%

Tom Henderson teaches this technique.  It’s a doozy.