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All Forum Posts by: Joe Miller

Joe Miller has started 8 posts and replied 197 times.

Post: Duplex, to build or not to build?

Joe MillerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 203
  • Votes 246

Off the hip, yes. That does seem like a good deal and a great return. Walking in with almost 25% equity in the property and hits the 1% rule on a new property that will(hopefully and should) have low maintenance and CapEx.

Post: Commercial Retail - Big box store Out of State

Joe MillerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 203
  • Votes 246

1.) Is the tenant publicly traded? If not, I would want to see their past 3-years of financial statements. You can also ask if anyone in their brokerage offers underwriting services for the tenant financials. How does their current lease compare to the surrounding market? I would want to know if the property is underrated, overrated, or at market rate. Finally, I would evaluate the demand for retail space of the same square footage in that market: what is the vacancy rate, 12 mo net absorption, and SF under constructions. Call local brokers with lots of tenant rep experience to get their opinion on how long it would take to refill the space and any challenges you may overlook.

2.) The biggest question is what are the annual increase (if any) in the lease and how fast can you climb into a higher cap rate? This becomes very important in an inflationary market. 3% increase are ideal at a 7.15 cap with a local tenant occupying 20% of the space. 

3.) I would speak with a lender. 

Post: STR/AirBnB Income Estimate

Joe MillerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 203
  • Votes 246

My cousin uses furnished finder and has great success with it. He almost can't stop blabbing about it. Great money but also very little turnover. 

Post: Switching Lender - First Rental (OH)

Joe MillerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 203
  • Votes 246

Getting referrals is the best way and you are already doing that! 

@Ashley Cross , First Ohio Home Finance is great. I used them on the purchase of my primary residence. 

Post: Thoughts on unique situation with Cosigner?

Joe MillerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 203
  • Votes 246

Pops is local and has good credit is. I love Bens idea of rental references and meeting the father so he is solid with being held responsible if they default. 

Keep us posted with what you decide. 

Post: First Investment Property

Joe MillerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 203
  • Votes 246

@Nathan Holt

LFG! Congrats. Glad that your agent treated you well and keeps our rep up 😤

Post: Transferring a Property into an LLC

Joe MillerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 203
  • Votes 246
Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @Graham Storey:

Transferring is easy. Use a Quit Claim Deed. You can talk to the County Clerk for instructions, probably costs $10 and a little of your time.

The value of an LLC is legit, but the need for one is dramatically exaggerated, particularly on BiggerPockets.

An LLC is useful for two things: anonymity and legal protection. In most cases, neither is warranted.

Warning: I am not an attorney and this can be a complicated topic. Please note the information provided below is a layman's definition designed to provide a basic understanding for the general audience. You should consult an attorney or CPA for your specific situation.

ANONYMITY: When you create the LLC, your name is recorded on the documents and published on the Secretary of State website for all to see. So you're not completely anonymous. If you want to be completely anonymous, you can use a Registered Agent. The Registered Agent will record the documents on your behalf so only their name and information appears on the documents. I've done this with my properties because I'm well known in my small town and don't want people to know what I own.

LEGAL PROTECTION: By placing your assets in an LLC, you are legally separating them from your personal assets. If someone injures themselves and sues, they will be suing the LLC and not you personally. If your insurance coverage isn't enough, they could seize the LLC assets, but not your personal assets.

Additional thoughts:

1. An LLC is not free. You can spend as little as $100 to form an LLC, or you could use an attorney and spend $1,000 or more. There are also additional costs of operating and maintaining an LLC, like separate bank accounts, annual report filings, tax filings, etc.

2. There are rules to follow! If you fail to follow the rules, you may open your personal assets to a lawsuit. An example of this would be mixing your personal money and LLC money in the same bank account.

3. You do not need a separate LLC for each property or a series LLC! Don't make your life more complicated than it has to be. Most professionals will recommend a separate LLC for every $1 million in assets but I don't think that's necessary. In my case, I have residential rentals in one LLC, commercial properties in another, self storage in a third, and my real estate company operates in a fourth. Some have more than $1 million in equity while others have less.

4. The need for an LLC is grossly exaggerated on BiggerPockets and other websites. Have you ever heard of a Landlord being sued by a Tenant and losing property? I've been on this board since 2010 and haven't found an example yet. You've probably heard of big Landlords losing property, but only because they were flagrantly violating Fair Housing, running a slum, or otherwise violating the law in an egregious manner. You are more likely to be struck by lightning twice. The vast majority of lawsuits against Landlords are for wrongful eviction, security deposit disputes, and Fair Housing Violations. Your basic insurance policy with $300,000 in liability coverage should be sufficient in 99.999% of all lawsuits.

5. The best protection for you and your investments? Know and obey the law. I manage around 400 rentals with 12 years experience and have never been sued once. Even if I were sued, I document everything and obey the law, so I won't be found guilty. Even if I were found guilty, the cost would be in the thousands, not in the millions. Insurance would cover it, I would pay the deductible, and no assets would be lost.

If you are in an area like San Diego where people are more likely to sue, a judge is more likely to find you guilty, and the payout is likely to be higher, then you may consider an umbrella insurance policy. This policy will provide additional coverage above what your existing policy covers. It's easy to obtain, costs very little, and doesn't require additional, on-going effort to maintain.


 Well spoken. Thank you sir!!

Post: Apartment building vs. Small Multi-Family for first investment

Joe MillerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 203
  • Votes 246

MFH if you can swing it financially. There is more toppling cashflow without a doubt. If you get 10 individual properties you will have 10 roofs, HVAC's, Water tanks, property taxes, insurance files- where if you get a good big boy you limit many of those. 


The market is getting swifty(at least in my city). Great time to try and take down a MFH. Goodluck with your hunt @Joshua Mark-Warren Landers

Post: LOOKING FOR GUIDIANCE ON A OFF MARKET BUNDLE PACKAGE.

Joe MillerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 203
  • Votes 246

Damn Jimmy, you are a crazy man! 

Do they all happen to be in a somewhat same area? Like city or state? Id connect with a very seasoned agent in the area and get ballparks from them to start. They should be happy to help considering you will potentially sell off a few with them. See what financials they can give. 

Keep us all posted on what shakes out. Would love to hear about this whale getting taken down. 

Post: Best Market for MFU to CashFlow and Appreciate

Joe MillerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 203
  • Votes 246

Obviously, I am biased to my city because I understand the market best lol. From an outside view-I have seen is the midwest cashflow and appreciate, but to be transparent, I have not invested personally in any states out west so I do not have first hand experience. 

My biggest advice is to ignore the list price and work backwards to what you need to offer for it to make sense for YOU and stick to that. 

The larger MFH you do the higher top-line cashflow, so when you replace XYZ like the roof you are replacing 6 "roofs" as opposed to 1 if you were SFH.