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All Forum Posts by: Joe Archbold

Joe Archbold has started 6 posts and replied 84 times.

Post: Looking to connect with BAM Capital investors

Joe ArchboldPosted
  • Investor
  • Batavia, IL
  • Posts 99
  • Votes 81

Hey Russel,

Admittedly, I do not know BAM; I am curious about what is driving your interest in/decision to invest whether its a preferred return or more back end equity, or just tax advantages.

The market has definitely put some operators' projects in distress, and it is very unfortunate, but the flip side is that other operators are able to use stabilized financing to acquire these distressed assets.

Our operator partners are seeing an almost 20% discount as they are acquiring assets today. Consider a top-performing operator who already manages assets in the market and has strong renovation skills, is using less leverage, as these deals are starting to pencil out. 

In today's Wall St Journal- Fortune Favors Early Movers in America’s Property Crunch
Investors willing to buy buildings when everyone else is running scared typically get the biggest rewards. By Carol Ryan Check it out.

Quote from @Carlos Ptriawan:
Quote from @Forest Wu:
Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Forest Wu

got it - makes sense.

it seems like, as an LP, you give up both liquidity and control. that's what makes it unappealing to me. if i buy a REIT or index fund i give up control but have high liquidity.

of course if you find the 'perfect' syndicator you get returns that will outpace the market.  but that's the challenge, right?


Yep, that's the risk that you accept unfortunately - lack of liquidity and control. I've looked at REITs but there is limited upside and you really don't know what you're getting into sometimes. Finding the right syndication opportunity on the other hand could lead to more upside while still having a passive role. I don't want to be involved - that's the GPs job. My role is to make sure that I'm confident in the team and investment philosophy after the initial due diligence. 

For some investors, they don't care about the liquidity, cashflow or control anymore. Instead, they just focus on growing wealth and deploy a few hundred thousand each year and every year with the right syndications and wait to see the returns in five to eight years. I do believe that if you pick the right conservative syndications, it's an easy way to diversify, maintain a low risk profile and come out slightly ahead of the market over time. However, I think even these returns will get eaten up as more investors jump in and good operators demand more upside for themselves.


 something like MLG is conservative core based syndication.
For me conservative syndication just means they have integrated business including integrated property management and integrated in-house repair department.

i am running away from 3 4 guys running syndication that hire outside PM and repair maintenance guy. 

So what does it means by conservative syndicators are not just about how the financial modelling aspect (eg: syndicator that took 10 year fixed loan is very different with syndicator with bridge loan 5 year 80%LTV floating debt) but also how about it operates its business.

I do not care about their philosophy as well, if they have the PM as their own internal team, I could be their friend.


 This is why every investor should understand each investment opportunity. Sure there are large Vertically integrated operators- they have their own property management, renovate at scale with their own teams, etc. But there are also smaller nimble groups that have a completely different strategy. They might find an off-market deal from an in-market top-performing property management company.
To access the deal and immediately have (in-house) PM capabilities they bring them into the deal as LP or part of GP side. Both have a fit and as part of a broker-dealer group we see both.

@Forest Wu,

Forest please feel free to DM me. Glad to discuss

Joe

Forest,

Access is the hardest/ most complicated piece. If an operator/syndicator is using a 506B to raise capital, he cannot advertise. If they use a 506C, they can advertise but usually have a narrow window as they are raising capital for an existing project. That raise will include prior investors, GP partners investing as LP, and other HNW investors adding $50K to $1M to the raise. So, for many Syndicators with powerful track records, the raise may fill very quickly.

If you are looking to gain access to live deals, evaluate projects in various markets, and even access projects in varying asset classes such as value-add multifamily, industrial, self-storage, etc., then you should consider connecting with a broker-dealer group.

Broker-dealer groups provide access, due diligence review, and regulatory compliance for evaluating and participating in the syndication space.

Always interested to connect and chat.

Joe

Post: The Five-Step Guide to Prime Investors

Joe ArchboldPosted
  • Investor
  • Batavia, IL
  • Posts 99
  • Votes 81

Unfortunately, this should be a place where active investors can share/grow/ learn from each other. For the #1 contributor to the Syndication and Fundraising space to post-
 "Anyone considering sending money to a syndicator should have their head examined by a medical doctor for signs of life.
And then go on to attack a real investor over a misspelling on his website? Whats the value in this?

To the contrary, Investors should wisely consider their portfolio and determine what if any portion they want to deploy and determine their best approach based on their goals. If the benefits of adding real estate make sense, great, then connect with guys like Jorge here on bigger pockets and network to find your investment niche.

Post: The Five-Step Guide to Prime Investors

Joe ArchboldPosted
  • Investor
  • Batavia, IL
  • Posts 99
  • Votes 81
Quote from @Jorge Abreu:
Quote from @Melanie P.:

Anyone considering sending money to a syndicator should have their head examined by a medical doctor for signs of life. 

This one has an incorrect definition of accredited investor on their website and admits the ownership of the syndicator also owns the construction company that does their rehabs. This is another avenue for the person touting the investment to drain money from the LPs. 

If you have money to invest in real estate, invest in real estate. Syndicators are the chance to buy into someone's idea and invest in them (or more specifically their website and sales guy). Investing in a syndicator is NOT real estate investing. These forums are littered with tales of distributions being paused and entire investments lost at various syndicators. Be careful out there.

It's understandable to have concerns about entrusting your hard-earned money to a syndicator, especially given the stories circulating about questionable practices in the industry. However, it's crucial to address some misconceptions and offer a more nuanced perspective on syndication as a viable investment option.

Firstly, let's clarify the role of syndicators in real estate investment. Syndicators, when operating ethically and transparently, serve as facilitators who bring together investors to pool their resources and collectively invest in real estate opportunities that may otherwise be inaccessible to individual investors. By leveraging their expertise, network, and resources, syndicators can identify, acquire, and manage properties with the potential for attractive returns.

Regarding the concern about the definition of accredited investors on our website, if you would like to point this out, as I don't even see the definition on our site. Then, as far as potential conflicts of interest, it's imperative for syndicators to adhere to regulatory standards and maintain transparency in their operations. Any discrepancies in the definition of accredited investors should be addressed promptly and rectified to ensure compliance and foster trust among investors. Additionally, while it's not uncommon for syndicators to have affiliations with related businesses such as construction companies, proper disclosure and management of potential conflicts of interest are essential to safeguard investors' interests.

Investing in syndications does involve a level of trust in the syndicator's expertise and integrity. However, this doesn't mean it's inherently inferior to direct real estate investment. Syndication offers several benefits, including diversification, access to professional management, the ability to passively invest and the opportunity to participate in larger deals with potentially higher returns.

That said, it's crucial for investors to conduct thorough due diligence, carefully evaluate the track record and reputation of syndicators, and assess the risk-return profile of each investment opportunity. While there are indeed risks associated with syndication investments, prudent investors can mitigate these risks through proper research, diversification, and working with reputable syndicators who prioritize transparency and alignment of interests with their investors.

Ultimately, while syndication may not be the right fit for every investor, dismissing it outright as not "real estate investing" oversimplifies a complex investment strategy and overlooks its potential benefits when executed responsibly. As with any investment decision, caution and diligence are paramount, but ruling out syndication entirely may mean missing out on valuable opportunities for portfolio diversification and wealth accumulation in the real estate market.

 Jorge,

Great post. There is lots of negative sentiment towards syndications currently. But there is also a ton of dry powder waiting for opportunity in multi-family. Investors have a choice they can either go and try to acquire an asset and manage it themselves, find another asset class, or they can do some homework and join a syndication. The interest rates hurt a lot of deals we will not see that rate of rise again for some time..

Post: Duplex vs RE syndication investment

Joe ArchboldPosted
  • Investor
  • Batavia, IL
  • Posts 99
  • Votes 81

These are apples and oranges- Yes both real estate, but with significant differences.

Some questions? 

What's the likelihood that the CA duplex increases in value organically? I assume you will self-manage? Purely buy and hold.

In these uncertain times, why wouldn't you consider a preferred position with the syndicator?  Sure, over the last several years, there was an unforeseen interest rate climb that hurt many very good operators, and LPs are upset. The market can move in three directions: up, down, or sideways. Where are rates in the cycle? Of the bad deals out there, I wonder how many deals went bad solely due to interest rates.

What about diversification? How much other real estate do you own as an asset? Syndication provides a window into other markets, different asset classes, and a completely different strategy.

Lastely, whats your time worth? Yes there is a lot of front end due diligence work to invest via syndication but they aren't going to call you in the middle of the night to resolve a leak, tenant issue, fire, or eviction. 

Already, good operators are buying broken deals at very smart levels, if their track record proves their worth, leveraging their expertise is what you are investing in.
How about stretching and doing both? Theres no right answer its all about taking action.

The question is Rent Growth How? Through Supply and demand economics vs having an asset that renters prefer over the one across the street.

Quote from @Carlos Ptriawan:

 With this information I invest only in industrial class asset syndication LOL.

LOL?

Im sure you have a strategy for Industrial Syndication that suites you.

The data itself doesn't breakdown asset class. Was this all Class A assets? Did they get any response from Class B or C assets? Curious what that mix is. And what are the occupancy levels?
Is it oversupply or Concessions from new assets? Is this just a cooling off after a crazy run up in rents?

SF and Multifamily investors with a strategy for deploying capital either on their own or through a partnership realize the data is broadbrush of information.

For a buy-and-hold investor this is potentially useful. But for someone investing in an asset or market, planning a Value-add strategy to bring an older asset back to life, this may not matter. 

So rents are down 2-5% so what. is that 50$? If you have an escalation built into your lease that is 4-5% that's that. What will you do with your asset to achieve rent growth regardless of the above data?

As an Investor what do you do with this information? Does this keep more investors on the sidelines?

My Buy and Hold portfolio is still cash-flowing with rising rents in Chicago Suburbs.

The In-migration and flight from certain markets may continue. Maybe diversification is key or is it the strategy?

For Value-add deals, there are concessions for new tenants but lift from renovations seems to outpace any decline that we hear from operators.

At the end of the day NOI growth is Key.