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All Forum Posts by: Julie Kern

Julie Kern has started 37 posts and replied 350 times.

Post: Selling my very first rental property today - here's why...

Julie Kern
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@Jon A. Thank you! And yes, we’ll have an on-site manager. Originally we were going to use a property management company but there are some nuances and complexities in the early stages with these apartments so we’re going to be a bit more hands on and utilize the onsite manager (25 hrs/wk) for day to day operations. Then we’ll reevaluate after a year or so. 

I also hit my landlording threshold on SFRs. For the most part they run pretty smoothly on autopilot but the time spent on turns and releasing has begun to feel like it isn’t worth it. I could have used a property manager on those properties but lease up fees of one months rent are painful when rents are in the $1300-1500 range. 😬

My goal is to eventually leverage all of our SFR equity into multi-family properties, and manage the managers of those properties, not the asset/tenants themselves. Although on this particular property it will take some time to develop systems and processes to get there.

Post: Selling my very first rental property today - here's why...

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@Neil Henderson @Clifford Paul

Thanks so much guys!!

Post: Selling my very first rental property today - here's why...

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This afternoon, I'll be heading to a closing on the sale of the first rental property I bought almost 5 years ago, in November 2014.

Here is a post where I was trying to figure out whether or not to buy the property, when I was brand spankin' new to real estate:
https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/88/topics/154881-should-i-hold-firm-or-negotiate-this-deal

I chuckle a little at myself when I re-read that post.  It's also interesting to read the various opinions of other BP'ers on whether or not it was a good deal.  @Todd Whiddon - you're a rockstar.  I love going back and reading your comments (TIP: put more weight on advice you get from people who are in your market than advice you get from those who aren't) 

The plan when my husband and I purchased was to hold with cash, but we got over that pretty quickly :)  We were all in on this property for around $104K, with purchase and rehab, initially rented it for $1150/mo, and refi'd out within a year, pulling out around $97K (it appraised for $132K back then).  

After initially leasing it up, we literally had no vacancies - 2 different tenants total over almost 5 years, one moved in the the day the others moved out.  The rent today, the day we are closing on the sale, is $1300, and honestly could/should have been higher based on where the rental market is in Cobb County GA/Kennesaw.  Without going back and digging in to the numbers in detail, it's safe to say net cash flow was $250/mo, so over 56 months, that's $14K in net rental income after all expenses and debt service. 

Fast forward to today - we're selling the property to our tenants for $184,900.  After closing costs and fees, we'll net around $179K on the sale.  After paying off the mortgage, we'll keep about $92K in our pockets.  Not too shabby! :)

Now, for the cool part (no, that wasn't the cool part)... the reason we are selling is:

(a) we wanted to capture the equity in the property at a time when it *appears* we've reached the top of the cycle (I don't have a crystal ball, I could be wrong, but things have gotten pretty crazy in our market) 

AND 

(b) we are closing on a 24-unit apartment complex in September and want to use that equity towards the down payment on the apartment. See this post for more on that process.  The down payment is $180K, so we'll cover a little over half of that from the proceeds of this sale.

But what about taxes, you ask?

So here is THE coolest part... I was planning to do a 1031 exchange, but, of course, there's some risk with that because if the purchase of the apartment hadn't gone through, we would end up giving a big chunk of our profit to Uncle Sam, or have to purchase another property, which would not be easy consider the time frames of a 1031, putting us at risk of purchasing a mediocre deal.  Turns out, that wasn't necessary.  

Back in October 2007, we had what I like to call our "false start" in real estate.  We bought 2 non-adjacent lots in a mountain community in North GA, one to build on, and one as an "investment" [chuckle, snort, guffaw].  At that time, we wouldn't have known what a real estate investment looked like if it slapped us in the face. Needless to say, that was a disaster.  We were heading straight for the crash and when it came, many lots in the community that the developer still owned were foreclosed on by the bank.  A number of them are still bank-owned today.

Fast forward to early 2019, and we finally sold those 2 properties by owner-financing them.  We took a huge loss.  But, every cloud has a silver lining, and guess what?  We were able to use that loss to offset the gains on the rental property we're selling, so it wasn't necessary to use a 1031, thereby allowing us to sell the property and avoid taxes even if the purchase of the apartment fell through.

If all goes as expected on the apartment, we'll be trading $250/mo in net cash flow for something closer to $2k/mo in net cash flow (potentially more if it's a home run).  

It's a little sad to say goodbye to our first rental property, but what that property did for us, with only $7K into it after BRRR'ing it, just speaks to how incredibly powerful real estate can be!!

Post: Cartersville, GA Monthly Meetup

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Not sure if this is still meeting but I would be game for getting it going again if not. I just moved to Bartow County about 6 months ago. 

Post: I QUIT THE CUBE!!!!!

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So proud of you @Dean R.!  It's been fun to watch your success over the last 50,716,800 seconds :) Your hustle and creativity are nothing short of impressive.  

I know I speak for our friends @Eli Rose @Terry Burger @Amy Pedersen and @Parker Stiles when I say how fun it has been watching you pull deals out of thin air again and again.  Sorry I can't be there Wednesday!

Post: Multi-Family Journey... 4-month update

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@Azeez K.Sounds great, will do. I’ll send you a PM. 

Post: Multi-Family Journey... 4-month update

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Hey @Azeez K.!  Great to hear from you.  In fact, there are deed restrictions that are *supposed* to end upon prepayment of the USDA Rural Development loan (which has already happened).  However, this is a GREAT tip and definitely something we'll be digging in to deeper during DD.  

Was the experience with DCA something that happened on one of your deals?  I would love to hear more details about that - when was the deed restriction discovered (post-closing), what was the resolution, etc.  

And the property is in Jasper, TN, about 30 minutes west of Chattanooga. 

Post: Multi-Family Journey... 4-month update

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@Joshua Diaz Thanks so much!  I really appreciate. @Jordyn Rodriguez Thank you!!

Post: Multi-Family Journey... 4-month update

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Quick update to this post from a month ago... 

  • I'm under contract on the 24-unit (as of July 3rd) referenced in my original post on this thread
  • Closing date should be around the end of August.
  • Inspection is scheduled for this Monday, July 15th. 
  • Due Diligence ends 8/2/2019.
  • The property management company who will manage the property has been identified.
  • I did not move forward with the mobile home park for several reasons: (1) I felt it was more important to focus on one deal at a time, and this one has alot more upside (2) I got some very negative feedback from a local building inspector who has this park (and others in the city limits) in his sights.  This one is next on his naughty list, and I didn't have the bandwidth to take that on while working on this other deal.

A few highlights of the 24-unit:

  • Purchase Price is $650K
  • We'll be borrowing between $150K and $200K to fund the rehab
  • The property is a USDA Rural Development property, or was, anyway.  It is no longer part of that program, but the USDA will be issuing housing vouchers to existing tenants, which will help us through the stabilization period.
  • At closing, we'll have 6 vacant units, with 3 others likely coming vacant within a couple of months.
  • The ultimate plan is to reposition the property and bring rents up from the current USDA rent-restricted rate of $455 (avg) to between $650 and $750.  Projections are based on the lower end of the range, with $750 being a push number.
  • The goal is to refi within 24 months and pull 100% of capital invested back out, with $100/unit cash flow after debt service.  

This has definitely been a rollercoaster, and I've been ready to pull the plug several times, but then new, favorable information would come to light and the plug stayed put :) I was very fortunate to pick up a partner with multi-family experience who is serving as an advisor and mentor, and he has been awesome.  

I'll update this thread after inspections have been completed and we have the report back.  

Post: Multi-Family Journey... 4-month update

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Thanks @Ehsan Rishat, appreciate it!