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All Forum Posts by: Julie Kern

Julie Kern has started 37 posts and replied 350 times.

Post: Cedar Falls Iowa Assisted Living

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@Luke Moore Awesome stuff!  I'm so excited for you, and will be following your progress.

Post: Cedar Falls Iowa Assisted Living

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@Luke Moore Congrats!! 6 residents in a month is awesome! How did you find those residents - placement agencies, online marketing, other? I would guess your director played a large part. Your post reminds me how important it is to have a rock star manager/director with experience. 
My ex’s company provides housekeeping/facilities services for skilled nursing facilities and he has been dealing with the same issues - between the fear of COVID (which I get) and the fact that employees make more staying home than going to work, he’s having a tough time. And the fear is real. One of his facilities has 60 cases (out of 100 residents) and he himself is currently recovering from COVID, which he got from one of the facilities  He had already had 6 or 7 tests due to exposure and tested positive on the last one after he developed symptoms.  

The fact that you’ve moved in 6 residents in a month hopefully speaks to the fact that families are more comfortable with smaller facilities than big boxes. Is that what you’re hearing/finding? 

Can’t wait to see more updates as things progress! 

Post: Cedar Falls Iowa Assisted Living

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@Luke Moore Congrats on the progress!  I've enjoyed your updates here, and can't wait to see more as you open and fill your home!  Hope to be where you are now in about 18 months!

Post: Commercial Lot Under Contract - Due Diligence Checklist

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We're doing what we're calling Residential Style Assisted Living.  Like what @Gene Guarino teaches in his Residential Assisted Living Academy, but in a commercial setting vs. residential due to the limitations we found in Metro ATL on the number of residents allowed in a home in residential zoning districts, but still with a "home-like" feel vs. institutional like the larger ALFs.   

It's also known as a personal care home in Georgia, and in the county we're targeting - Gwinnett - known as a congregate personal care home if done in certain commercial zoning districts (min. 16 beds).  It will be Private Pay, up to 24 beds, so it's on the smaller side compared to a "Big Box" ALF.  

Regarding your question about buying vs. building, did you mean why aren't we buying an existing care home (already up and running), or why aren't we buying an existing structure and converting to a care home?

My answer will vary depending on the answer :) 

Post: Commercial Lot Under Contract - Due Diligence Checklist

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@Steve Morris Thank you! I did a Phase 1 on my apartments even though it wasn't required by the lender for the exact reason you said - the protection it affords; figured I would throw it out there since this is undeveloped land and get feedback on whether it makes sense or not.  

Post: Commercial Lot Under Contract - Due Diligence Checklist

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@Gene Guarino Would love your thoughts on some of the above concerns about opening a RAL in 12 months in light of current COVID conditions.  Any other input or feedback would be most appreciated!

Post: Commercial Lot Under Contract - Due Diligence Checklist

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@Sean McCluskey Yes, I have a lender that I worked with on a previous project who has given us a preliminary yes.

Part of DD will be presenting him with our business plan and pro formas/projections to get committee approval. It’s a small local bank that financed a 24 unit apartment complex that I purchased last fall, renovated and have now fully stabilized. 

And yes, I do have a term sheet. Thanks for the input!

Post: Commercial Lot Under Contract - Due Diligence Checklist

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@Joel Owens Thanks for your your comments.  


The facility likely wouldn't be ready for at least 12 months based on the current projected timeline. We would not start pre-marketing until well early next year.  At this time, based on secret shopping we've done, facilities are beginning to open up to new residents and are expected to fully open in the next 3 months.  Our expectation is that by the time we begin marketing and are ready to open, this will be much less of an issue.  However, we will be monitoring this closely throughout our DD period.

Yes, Gwinnett County C2 zoning allows for congregate personal care homes; there is no special use/conditional use permit required.  That is why we targeted this property.

I'm not sure why we would need a zoning attorney since the zoning in place is already acceptable for a congregate personal care home, but please elaborate, if you don't mind, in case I am missing something. 

Post: Commercial Lot Under Contract - Due Diligence Checklist

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Thank you @Byron Scott!! I’ll continue to update this thread throughout the process. 

Post: Commercial Lot Under Contract - Due Diligence Checklist

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My business partner @Dean R. and I went under contract today on a commercial lot in Gwinnett County, GA (Lawrenceville).  We have been looking at both residential and commercial properties (with and without existing buildings) for a few months and identified this lot as one that meets the criteria for building a residential assisted living facility - or, in this case what we have dubbed residential style assisted living, as this will be in a small office park vs. a residential setting, with between 16 and 24 beds, so smaller than a Big Box ALF.

We have a 60-day due diligence period (starting today), so we're fleshing out our due diligence checklist (see below) and would welcome input from anyone with experience purchasing and developing a commercial property.

Our pre-contract DD included the following:

1. Confirm zoning allows for a personal care home (as RAL's are known in GA).  It does - the county allows congregate personal care homes in the zoning district of this lot, with a minimum of 16 beds.

2. Confirm county has no restrictions on being within a certain distance of a similar facility (we are literally next door neighbors with a large ALF (AKA Big Box)It does not, although we'll do additional DD to verify this.

3. Determine if there are any CC&Rs for the small office park that would prevent us from opening this type of facility, or build the type of building we plan to build So far, we haven't identified any but additional research will happen during our 60-day DD

4. Speak with lenders about lending on the project We did; one lender summarily dismissed it because we don't have experience with ALFs, but based off the initial description of the project, a lender who did the loan for my 24-unit apartment complex gave us a preliminary yes.  We'll be working on a business plan, projections and a presentation for him to take to committee for approval of the construction and development loan.  The seller of the land agreed to seller-financing for 6 months but we'll need to ensure we can get the full project financing we need prior to conclusion of DD.

5. Analyze demographics Having a Big Box facility on the same street helps give us some degree of confidence in demand for ALFs in the area.  Gwinnett County/Lawrenceville also meet our criteria for median income for household and population size.

6. Run income projections under multiple rent/occupancy/financing/build cost scenarios Done, but will continue to update/inform our numbers during DD.

7. Preliminary research on viability of project for this lot We have had 2 conversations with the architect who developed a spec site plan of the lot for the seller.  At a high level, he believes the lot will meet the needs of this project based on his level of familiarity with the property, but one of our first DD steps will be to have a face-to-face (social distancing, of course) with his team to discuss in more detail what we plan to do, and get a proforma of project cost.  We are also considering using his services to guide us through permitting, etc., as he has designed a similar facility and knows the Gwinnett County process well. 


Below is our 60-day DD checklist (not necessarily in order):

1. Schedule meeting with architect to discuss preparation of construction plans (site plan, grading/drainage plan, utility plan, erosion control plans and construction details): GOAL: walk away with proforma of project cost to compare to our projections.  

2. Research utility/street maintenance easement: This is something that we are aware exists, but need to fully understand what it entails.

3. Determine if any undiscovered CC&Rs exist for the office park.

4. Fully develop business plan, projections and presentation for lender to move toward loan commitment. 

5. Secure private money commitments for downpayment and initial operating costs (we'll be seeking a 1-2 yr bridge loan until we can refi and pay back private lenders)

6. Develop refi plan based on anticipated value of property after lease up to ensure private money can be returned.  

7. Order Phase 1 environmental study (for those who have purchased/developed commercial properties, are there any circumstances where you would forego this?).

8. Order full boundary and topography surveys

9. Order preparation of site development plan 

10. Apply for permits (land development, building)

11. Secret shop other ALF's in the area

12. Fully explore and confirm all licensing requirements for a PCH with the state Dept. of Community Health

13. Contact Gwinnett County Health Department for regulations pertaining to the construction/operation of the RAL.

14. Title search/review (closing attorney)

This is where we are so far.  I would love some input on other DD items we haven't accounted for and other things to consider.  60 days is an aggressive due diligence schedule, so we'll need to hustle; county backlogs may not be our friend, so if we get into significant delays, we might have to ask for an extension.

@Joel Owens ... would love your in put on this.  Thanks in advance everyone!