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All Forum Posts by: Jeff Tang

Jeff Tang has started 1 posts and replied 62 times.

Post: What's a fair split in this type of partnership?

Jeff TangPosted
  • Alameda, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by @Cal C.:
Originally posted by @Jeff Tang:
Originally posted by @Cal C.:

That deal is not worth considering.

 Thanks. Why?

 Because you are on the hook for half a million bucks with someone you probably haven't worked with extensively in the past.  Go in small, learn the ropes, gain some confidence with a builder/rehabber, then gradually invest more and more.  I have seen some very bright  and real estate savvy people get burned by seemingly trustworthy builders/rehabbers.  

 Thanks for that clarification!  What would you consider 'small' to start off with?  

I've been going to Jino Joseph since 2010.  He's been great for handling my short sale-related taxes, my wife's business financials, and our personal taxes.  He has a home office in Fremont, and also an office in Santa Clara, I believe. 

Post: What's a fair split in this type of partnership?

Jeff TangPosted
  • Alameda, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by @Timothy McKinney:

You may not be putting cash into the deal, But you are still responsible for the loan and that is significant risk. I am not a lender, but it seems to me that a 50/50 split of profit would be closer to fair. 

Thanks! Yes, I'm aware that I'm on the hook for the loan, but not so concerned with being stuck with the home in the market that we're in. The plan would be to have reserves to cover PITI. Is 50/50 really the norm for this type of arrangement?

What I'm also concerned with is what about the tax implication from the flip and how much will there be to cover that.  

Post: What's a fair split in this type of partnership?

Jeff TangPosted
  • Alameda, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by @Cal C.:

That deal is not worth considering.

 Thanks. Why?

Post: What's a fair split in this type of partnership?

Jeff TangPosted
  • Alameda, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 14

I have an investor/agent that would like to partner up and utilize my good credit to purchase a flip. Property would be around $500K, with ARV between $700K-$800K. He is proposing to provide the down payment, rehab costs, and PITI for 6 months; I would be the one qualifying for the loan. He's suggested I'd get maybe $25K for my involvement, but we haven't fleshed out the deal entirely. Does this sound fair for a first-timer? How should it be structured? What sort of legal docs should I have setup for this type of deal? Any thing I should be concerned about? Thanks for your assistance!

Post: To partner up or not to partner up?

Jeff TangPosted
  • Alameda, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 14

You might want to get a few quotes from other contractors to see just how much this one contractor is bringing to the deal.  Also, is the renovation your only job?  Personally, if you plan to do the work, but have a regular job, add on a couple of months to complete.  You might be better off just having a contractor do the work in less time than it would take you to do alone.  You didn't mention how many units is the rental, but you might consider managing it on your own, to gain the experience, if it's a small rental.  You could still use the contractor for maintenance, as needed.

Post: First BRRR Deal!

Jeff TangPosted
  • Alameda, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 14

Awesome job!

I don't have anything to offer you here except well done on finding something in SF!

Post: Recent SF/East Bay Success Stories?

Jeff TangPosted
  • Alameda, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Daniel,

This kind of thread doesn't get a lot of responses because

1)  If you share your success, people say you're bragging.

2)  If you share your mistakes, people say you're stupid.

It's almost a lose-lose situation.  What the heck.  I'll share it anyways.  :0)

I'm a South Bay guy.  Bought a six all 2/1 unit apartment building in May of this year for $1.175MM.  Brought rents up 31%.  Just completed a cash-out refinance.  Appraisal came back at $1.55MM.  My partner and I put less than $3k into rehab on one of the units.

Currently in the process of refinance a 7-unit building, which also bought in May for $1.125MM.  Spent about $42k in rehab on 3 units so far.  Brought rents up 36%.  In the process of doing a cash-out refinance now.  Appraisal will be done this Thursday.  Had an unsolicited offer for $1.5MM two months after we bought it, but we turned it down.  Don't want to pay short-term capital gains, and there's no reason for us to sell.......yet.

Bought an 8-unit building in July for $1.225MM.  In the process of stabilizing the building.  So far we have brought rents up about 31%.  Looking to do a cash-out refinance early next year.  

Only if we could bring rents up to fair market rents.  God knows how much the value of these buildings would be.  

We have been turning down okay deals while others are jumping all over them and willing to pay higher prices then us.  Patience is the name of the game.  

As a side note, I believe I have scored big on a partnership with an East Bay guy I met here on BP.  We're going to make millions together.  That's for sure.  I guess I can count that as an East Bay Success.  :>)

Cheers.

 Yep, totally bragging. j/k!  Sounds like some awesome deals!  Keep them coming.

Might be a little old, but you might give HD or Lowes a call to see if they still do this.

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/67/topics/78368-lowes-home-depot---contractors-discount